Sebastien Bassong

[srups34]

Correct me if I'm wrong but was it on here that I read Bassong apparently told Levy he would play for the club again.(in other words you'll buy me back again.)

 

[thinktank]

I look back on last season and remember very well how Seb was ridiculed week in and week out on this site, pretty much every time he played for us. Most on here got they're wish when he was moved onto Norwich. I always rated him but knew he needed a run in the team.

The moaners have got new new targets this season, but I see in the 8 times Seb has played 90 minutes for Norwich in the league this season, they have only conceded 3 goals in those 8 games. Does that not suggest something? It may only suggest that it is harder to defend at Tottenham because of the pressure to go forward means that we do not protect our defence well enough. We concede a lot on the counter but for me that is not the reason Seb (and many others) couldn't fulfill his potential at Spurs.

What really worries me is the possibility that so many good players don't make it at spurs because of the constant moaning from the boo-boys. Most personalities suffer to some extent knowing they will have jeers and boo's after any mistake. Are we that high profile a football club that we can afford to only buy the players invulnerable to such criticism?

And now we wonder about Dempsey, Defoe, Siggy, Walker, Huddlestone, Gomez, etc..... These players are great on they're day but once the Boo-boys get into action and an element of doubt sets into their play we eat away at them until they are championship standard. Then we harp on about how a player should stay loyal and respect the fans and so on. We, as a whole, need to cop on and not have such a high opinion of ourselves. I'm sure Norwich fans appreciate Seb and are getting they're reward for it.

Most of the fans are genuine, logical people but that 20/30% of idiots make a huge difference. You can see it on here when we are 0-0 during the match threads. Too many people think we are Barcelona and its made a lot of decent posters shy away from getting involved. The same way its frightened players away from playing their natural game.

I love my Tottenham, but I wish our fans could remove all the negativity from following the team and just support the players, all the players. It was Harry's one great attribute as a manager (imo) and he's made a career out of it. We have no right to complain about the Modric's of this world until we do.

Bassong is decent defender, that's all.

Dempsey, Defoe, Siggy, Walker, Huddlestone, Gomez:

Gomez - was fucked by coming in behind a defence very low on confidence at the time, that was extremely shaky and fearful and that fucked his game as it gave him the yips - yes, we ruined him. Fair to the defence at that time though as it was robbo who had made them jittery in the first place by his continual suspect keeping.

Defoe - JD is JD, boo him or cheer him he only gives a shit about himself and smacking it hard in the hope of finding the goal. I doubt he ever hears the crowd for being wrapped up in his own, offside, world.

Siggy - just doesn't suit what AVB is trying to do with him.

Walker - scarecrow/oz.

Huddleslow - always been limited always will be.

Don't like the boo-boys but don't agree with your calculation of the affect they have had. Only a handful of idiots boo, relative to stadium size, and if our players are getting spooked by these guys then it's probably got more to do with them being mental jelly babies than anything else.

Can't scapegoat the boo-boys for crap play. Nah.

 

[talkshowhost86]

The attitude towards the likes of Bassong last season was one of the reasons I gave up my season ticket. The atmosphere was starting to get poisonous as the fans seemingly expected every player to be absolutely perfect.

I think the taste of 'success' in getting into the champions league has either turned many spurs fans into negative arseholes or brought in a new wave of negative arseholes. Either way it's not creating a good atmosphere.

 

[mpickard2087]

Bassong didn't read the game that well, which was his major problem and so had problems with positioning and anticipating the play, but I would take an educated guess that the more games he played he would improve on this, as we have seen with Kaboul. What also didn't help him was that he seemed to particularly struggle to get up to speed with things if dropped into the team for the odd game.

Saying that though I think he was pretty harshly treated by most fans. The guy had a lot of potential for us IMO and could have continued to be a decent squad option, particularly now we play a high defensive line. He is stronger, quicker and better in the air than the likes of Dawson and Gallas. He just needed to continue getting regular football to aid the development of his all round game.

 

[SpurSince57]

Bassong didn't read the game that well, which was his major problem and so had problems with positioning and anticipating the play, but I would take an educated guess that the more games he played he would improve on this, as we have seen with Kaboul. What also didn't help him was that he seemed to particularly struggle to get up to speed with things if dropped into the team for the odd game.

Saying that though I think he was pretty harshly treated by most fans. The guy had a lot of potential for us IMO and could have continued to be a decent squad option, particularly now we play a high defensive line. He is stronger, quicker and better in the air than the likes of Dawson and Gallas. He just needed to continue getting regular football to aid the development of his all round game.

In that respect, he reminded me of Gardner, who was actually pretty decent when he'd had a run of games to get him up to speed (at which point he'd invariably trip over the touchline and put himself out for another six weeks). I'd dispute that he's better in the air than Dawson, though—he's certainly superior to Gallas.

 

[Real_madyidd]

People need to get off the players backs. Support the team. The turning on siggy is shameful.

 

[ilikeost]

If we want to build our attacks from the back we can't have players like Bassong or Dawson. Even if they might be good or even fantastic at just defending. We need other attributes than just a defender that can tackle and clear the ball. Vertonghen is on paper the perfect fit and he have indeed been really good so far, Kaboul proved himself last year and so did Caulker at Swansea. Gallas is a stop gap like Friedel is/was. I expect us to get a CB in january and Dawson will probably leave.

When it comes to booing or jeering I can only agree that it's wrong. But if the club is going to charge the money they do for tickets I think the people are right to expect a level of quality that matches those prices and frankly the club isn't delivering. But the fans are booing the wrong people, the players can't do anything if they are not suitable for the job. It's the management of the club that have to take action and they are the ones who derserves the boos (if anyone does).

 

[Davo99]

Who??!?!?

Hmmm, I wonder who he could be talking about.

Fuck sake.

 

[mano-obe]

Bassong, Kranc, Bentley, Pav, Thudd all played a part towards our first top 4 finish. I loved how everybody chipped in with a performance that season. I'll always remember certain players with fond memories

 

[sunnydelight786]

Credit to Bassong, he has knuckled down to work at Norwich and has just scored a last min equalisr at Everton....

 

[YiddoInPoland]

our draw against them doesn't look so bad at the moment, well played that lad!

 

[BK007]

and when we're bottom, it won't look so bad that we beat QPR. Jesus, have expectations fallen.

 

[Blake Griffin]

harry sapped him of all confidence, same can be said for about a dozen other players.

 

[YiddoInPoland]

and when we're bottom, it won't look so bad that we beat QPR. Jesus, have expectations fallen.

We wont be anywhere near bottom, Jesus , i was saying it from the point of view that many were treating the result against Norwich as a given. Today they got the same result that they did against us, against one of our main rivals for 4th, at a place where we rarely do any better.

Also, they have beaten Man United and Arsenal this season already!

Anyway, well done Bassong!

 

[JohanTheYid]

SeBass always excelled with a run in the team, sadly he wasn't the kind of player who could perform when called on every now and then. Champs League qualification season he was outstanding !

 

[beats1]

Correct me if I'm wrong but was it on here that I read Bassong apparently told Levy he would play for the club again.(in other words you'll buy me back again.)

I doubt it since he told AVB he would be signing him again after he leaves

 

[jonathanhotspur]

Defoe - JD is JD, boo him or cheer him he only gives a shit about himself and smacking it hard in the hope of finding the goal. I doubt he ever hears the crowd for being wrapped up in his own, offside, world.

I read something interesting last night. It was an article in the The Mirror where Tony Pulis compared Charlie Adam to Dimitar Berbatov. This was the part that caught my eye, however...


“Peter is fine, he worries about us winning. If you have a look at the goal Jon Walters scores at West Ham, the first person to him is Crouchy.
“That’s typical of what Peter is – he’s not an individual who worries about himself. He’s not one of those egotistical lads.
“There are some players who score a goal but they lose the game and they are absolutely delighted. You wouldn’t put Peter in that category.
"He’s been absolutely brilliant.”

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/stoke-vs-fulham-adam-is-as-good-1452563

 

[SugarRay]

Some players can't cut it when the pressure is increased. He won't be the first or last player to make a move to a bigger club and it doesn't work out for him.

How you handle the expectation and pressure is one of the things which separates top prem players from decent prem players.

 

[SoulDog]

We could of done with him this season

 

[Ribble]

Some players can't cut it when the pressure is increased. He won't be the first or last player to make a move to a bigger club and it doesn't work out for him.

Except, y'know, he did handle it well until begin unceremoniously dropped for a 33 year old. So well in fact that he formed part of a defence that kept a long run of clean sheets and managed to get 4th. With Peter Crouch up top.