Said Benrahma

[spids]

I thought the consensus was we needed a RB, LB, DCM and a back up CF. In Son, Dele, Bergwijn, Moura we have some very decent WF/AMs competing for two spots. If money is tight I’d rather we put the £25M it would take to get this guy towards a significant upgrade at full-back.

 

[elfy]

Exactly ... I find it hard we didn't go for ziyech for 38m !! Exactly the type of player we needed to replace lamela

Because the player gets a choice as well. Fee wasnt outrageous, wages were reasonable. I know we all think Spurs are the greatest team the world has ever seen, but I dont think the player would be swayed by a song and wouldnt be interested coming to us over Chelsea.

 

[DiVaio]

Exactly ... I find it hard we didn't go for ziyech for 38m !! Exactly the type of player we needed to replace lamela

Or maybe we didnt want him when we bought other winger from the same League with very, very similar numbers and i don’t recall any reliable reports that we were interested in him in same time we bought Davinson and were heavily linked with De Ligt, De Jong and Onana

 

[Deleted member 27995]

Just on his position, Brentford have had interchangeable attacking options going back to when Dean Smith was in charge. More so this season under Thomas Frank.

Once again you're looking at a player with quick feet and while one of those 'highlight' reels shows him with ball at feet and the claim he is slow to release I'd suggest that's not always the case. Brentford are quick on the counter (sadly something that was missing the other night against Fulham) and the main three for them this season are often looking to move the ball, while also happy to run channels.

I have no horse in the race when it comes to him being an upgrade on Coco, mainly because what Coco was when he arrived here and what he is now are two vastly different footballers (imo)

I also think this is now at least the forth link to an attacking final third player we've had in this window and I'd think it is fair to suggest (happy to be told I am wrong haha) we're clearly looking at bringing one of these types in, and out of all of them I like Benrahma the most.

 

[emiley heskey]

Or maybe we didnt want him when we bought other winger from the same League with very, very similar numbers

This sounds plausible though ziyech is more finished product than bergwjin

 

[DiVaio]

This sounds plausible though ziyech is more finished product than bergwjin

And Bergwijn is better fit for what we need.

 

[emiley heskey]

Just on his position, Brentford have had interchangeable attacking options going back to when Dean Smith was in charge. More so this season under Thomas Frank.

Once again you're looking at a player with quick feet and while one of those 'highlight' reels shows him with ball at feet and the claim he is slow to release I'd suggest that's not always the case. Brentford are quick on the counter (sadly something that was missing the other night against Fulham) and the main three for them this season are often looking to move the ball, while also happy to run channels.

I have no horse in the race when it comes to him being an upgrade on Coco, mainly because what Coco was when he arrived here and what he is now are two vastly different footballers (imo)

I also think this is now at least the forth link to an attacking final third player we've had in this window and I'd think it is fair to suggest (happy to be told I am wrong haha) we're clearly looking at bringing one of these types in, and out of all of them I like Benrahma the most.

I think it's time for us to improve upon one of lamela or moura .. Given the fact, jose likes Moura , I would say lamela is the one who is replaceable in the squad ...

 

[Goobers]

I would say that this would be a luxury signing considering the positions and profiles we are trying to fill.
lovely player though.

 

[Hoopspur]

Another nail in the Dele coffin. Dele was always at his best operating off the left, then Son muscled him out. It is becoming harder and harder to find a starting position fr him and for his own sake he needs to be one of the main men and not a bit part player.

 

[spursfan77]

Agents at work I suspect, don't see why we'd need him.

I agree but we need more creativity further forward. We should go for more of a traditional playmaker as Mourinho likes those.

Saying that if it were a choice between him and Eze for a wide attacker cutting in to provide that I’d rather go for Eze. I still think we might and he’d be more likely.

 

[spursfan77]

Or maybe we didnt want him when we bought other winger from the same League with very, very similar numbers and i don’t recall any reliable reports that we were interested in him in same time we bought Davinson and were heavily linked with De Ligt, De Jong and Onana

We were, we looked at Ziyech as an Eriksen replacement/competition just before the last World Cup.

 

[emiley heskey]

Another nail in the Dele coffin. Dele was always at his best operating off the left, then Son muscled him out. It is becoming harder and harder to find a starting position fr him and for his own sake he needs to be one of the main men and not a bit part player.

I think dele should be used how munich use thomas muller ... Not as a pure playmaker, not as a pure striker ...

 

[Colonel Dax]

I agree but we need more creativity further forward. We should go for more of a traditional playmaker as Mourinho likes those.

Agreed. A creative player is not our top priority admittedly but we still need one IMO. We used to complain that we were too reliant on Eriksen for creativity when he was here. Well, we sold him and bought Lo Celso and we’re still in the same boat: one injury away from being very one dimensional.

The team already struggles to break down opposing low block defenses. Therefore another player who can unlock those stubborn defences with a killer pass would be welcome. I had hoped Ndombele would be that player but not sure he will kick on under Mourinho.

 

[hellava_tough]

I think dele should be used how munich use thomas muller ... Not as a pure playmaker, not as a pure striker ...

 

[Bulletspur]

Relax mate. I was just saying I don't agree with the rationale you were using to mug off @Yiddo100 's post. Let's look at what you said again:


So you're saying that its laughable to think that a 24 year old player, who just scored 19G and 9A this season and could ikely win Championship POTS has the potential to be a "huge" upgrade on Lamela, a injury ridden 28 year old player that has provided 9G and 10A across the last 4 PL seasons? And yes, I acknowledge you said "injuries apart", but surely injuries also have to do with a player's impact..?

And your supporting logic behind this is because Benrahma has only scored goals against Championship clubs, whereas Lamela has scored against some of the biggest clubs in the world.. yet Benrahma has never had the opportunity to face these clubs.

Just curious, does this mean I should also "do you a favour" for believing that Ollie Watkins would be a "huge" upgrade on Troy Deeney?

24 year old Ollie Watkins scored 25G in the Championship this season, but surely that would mean he couldn't do much better next season in the Premier League than 32 year old Troy Deeney who banged them in against Arsenal and Manchester United this season?



Yes, of course I do... but what relevance does this have to the point you're making? Because of that tackle, Lamela has proven that Grealish is not a "huge" upgrade on him? Or do I need to work on "reading and comprehending posts"?

All I said was Lol.....

 

[Ron Burgundy]

I think dele should be used how munich use thomas muller ... Not as a pure playmaker, not as a pure striker ...

That requires us to build our team/tactics around him really though doesn't it? I think it's a matter of debate as to whether he's good enough for that at this moment in time

 

[emiley heskey]

That requires us to build our team/tactics around him really though doesn't it? I think it's a matter of debate as to whether he's good enough for that at this moment in time

Munich don't play around muller ... They play around thiago finding the ball in the middle and give it to the wings and find one of muller or lewa inside the dbox ... Muller's job is to create space for lewa and their other wingers and if pssble get inside box

 

[Japhet]

We need someone who can deputise for, or play alongside Kane way more than we need another winger. I can see Levy might be interested in Benrahma (who could be the next Hazard or equally the next Boufal), but I doubt Mourinho is. Olly Watkins would make a heap more sense IMO.

 

[OPModric]

That requires us to build our team/tactics around him really though doesn't it? I think it's a matter of debate as to whether he's good enough for that at this moment in time

Yes. And Mourinho probably will not switch tactics three times every game (as Poch often did) to fit him in the side either.

Its not Lamela we shall upgrade, he has an important role in the team. It's Alli.

 

[paulcumpstone]

Has had a good season but was anonymous in the playoff final. Not sure we need another short tricky winger. Much better areaa of the squad to spend our money on, though he probably offers a more creative outlet