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Montalbano

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If we can move on Lamela and bring this guy and a back-up striker in, then we’d have some serious options!

Lucas/Bergweign
Lo Celso/Dele
Son/Benrahma

Kane / C.Wilson or MurquI or Watkins
Spot on mate. Really think this is agents at work or just lazy jorno unfortunately but I’d absoloutley love it to be true as this kid is really special
Exactly mate.
I'm not sure why everyone is saying we should get Brooks or Eze and also saying we don't have room for Benrahma. All three players would be expected to play on either the wing or in attacking midfield [depending on formation].

I’m not saying you’re wrong, but you’re saying we don’t have 4 “wingers” to count on right now? Jose loves Moura/Son and has shown faith in Lamela and Bergwijn has shown real glimpses of quality. I get it if he feels Sess is to be groomed at LB and Lamela is surplus, but I’m not sure if there’s really evidence of that to this point?
I don't disagree with you either, especially regarding Sess potentially getting chances at winger and fullback. That is definitely a fair shout.

I'm just speculating but I do think Jose values Lamela more as a midfielder than a winger [central midfield or #10]. He has primarily played more of deep, central role under him and in several matches since the restart, Lamela has been subbed on as a direct replacement for Lo Celso in central midfield. I think if we're likely to continue our counter attacking style, Jose is going to prefer quicker players on the wing than Lamela.

Because we reportedly need to sell players to buy players, I do get the vibe that we'd likely sacrifice Coco to bring in a new winger though [hence the Eze, Brooks, and now Benrahma links] considering he only has two years left on his contract and is now 28. He's a grafter and good squad player but these links suggest we are looking to bring in a younger player who could potentially be more of a threat to the starting XI.
 

NHAndy

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First read this thread title as “Saido Berahino” and had a horrible flashback. This guy looks great - would be fun to watch.
 

Bulletspur

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It probably would be a pretty big upgrade to be fair, Lamela has hardly pulled up any trees and he’s barely ever fit, this guy could be an absolute gem.
He must be a fucking Messi then . Lamela, injuries apart has bossed games against City, Chelsea, Arsenal and the likes. This guy who has been good against Fulham and other Championship sides and no PL experience, suddenly is going to be a HUGE upgrade on Lamela? Do me a favour
 

Montalbano

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He must be a fucking Messi then . Lamela, injuries apart has bossed games against City, Chelsea, Arsenal and the likes. This guy who has been good against Fulham and other Championship sides and no PL experience, suddenly is going to be a HUGE upgrade on Lamela? Do me a favour
Hahaha this is the exact stuff people were spouting about Grealish and Maddison and now they're moaning about how we missed out.

How can you discount Benrahma for not scoring against City, Chelsea, Arsenal and the likes when he's never played them? Like you said, against the competition he has played he's bagged goals and proven himself. If you watch him his talent is clear to see

Will he be better than Lamela? Maybe, maybe not. We'll have to wait and see, but for 16m you can understand why Chelsea, Arsenal, and us have reportedly been interested in giving him a chance.

He'll almost certainly be playing Premier League football somewhere as he completely dominated the Championship. The last couple of players to do that in recent seasons ended up doing alright in the Premier League...

I thought Bruno Fernandes immediate rise to PL stardom would finally help people realize that there are truly elite talents out playing in the "lesser leagues". Guess I was wrong.
 

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Exactly mate.
I'm not sure why everyone is saying we should get Brooks or Eze and also saying we don't have room for Benrahma. All three players would be expected to play on either the wing or in attacking midfield [depending on formation].


I don't disagree with you either, especially regarding Sess potentially getting chances at winger and fullback. That is definitely a fair shout.

I'm just speculating but I do think Jose values Lamela more as a midfielder than a winger [central midfield or #10]. He has primarily played more of deep, central role under him and in several matches since the restart, Lamela has been subbed on as a direct replacement for Lo Celso in central midfield. I think if we're likely to continue our counter attacking style, Jose is going to prefer quicker players on the wing than Lamela.

Because we reportedly need to sell players to buy players, I do get the vibe that we'd likely sacrifice Coco to bring in a new winger though [hence the Eze, Brooks, and now Benrahma links] considering he only has two years left on his contract and is now 28. He's a grafter and good squad player but these links suggest we are looking to bring in a younger player who could potentially be more of a threat to the starting XI.

I can see your point, and in the 4-3-3 you could have Son and Benrahma on the left and Moura and Bergwijn on the right. There’s some versatility there, too, which helps with rotation and to account for injuries. I love Lamela but can see the logic in replacing him with a Benrahma type who does look like he should be a bit more productive from a goals/assists standpoint, but that’s obviously speculative given the competition he’s coming from. As I mentioned and you acknowledged, Sessegnon could have a role in this, but it’s probably not absurd to have a guy like him as a LB/LWB/LM/LW hybrid type of player, too.

Benrahma and Watkins would absolutely round out our attacking group, I’m just not confident we will have that kind of money.
 

Bulletspur

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Hahaha this is the exact stuff people were spouting about Grealish and Maddison and now they're moaning about how we missed out.

How can you discount Benrahma for not scoring against City, Chelsea, Arsenal and the likes when he's never played them? Like you said, against the competition he has played he's bagged goals and proven himself. If you watch him his talent is clear to see

Will he be better than Lamela? Maybe, maybe not. We'll have to wait and see, but for 16m you can understand why Chelsea, Arsenal, and us have reportedly been interested in giving him a chance.

He'll almost certainly be playing Premier League football somewhere as he completely dominated the Championship. The last couple of players to do that in recent seasons ended up doing alright in the Premier League...

I thought Bruno Fernandes immediate rise to PL stardom would finally help people realize that there are truly elite talents out playing in the "lesser leagues". Guess I was wrong.
You are making my argument for me! I did not say that this player is not good, and would not do good for us , I did not say that at all. What I 'Loled" at was the adjective "Huge" used by the original poster. Now it seems that even you have doubts, so how can he be a HUGE upgrade? Sometimes we need to read and comprehend posts, put it in context before commenting. For the record, do remember the first game of the season when Lamela had Grealish in his pocket? He even mugged him for an assist to Kane!
 
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Really like him as a footballer.

That said, unless we're moving someone on this feels more a news paper story that puts two and two together.
 

daryl hannah

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It's funny.

His highlight reel, to me, seems to show a one-trick pony, even though he's got a few different tricks in his locker. I think he's alright, but I think his tricks and flicks will get steam-rollered in the prem - much the same as Dele's tricks and flicks do.

Don't see a world-class player, rather a player that hangs onto the ball with his dribbles and will get flattened in PL. Would rather Watkins if we're going to look at Brentford players.

Adel Taraabt #2?

 

Montalbano

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You are making my argument for me! I did not say that this player is not good, and would not do good for us , I did not say that at all. What I 'Loled" at was the adjective "Huge" used by the original poster. Now it seems that even you have doubts, so how can he be a HUGE upgrade? Sometimes we need to read and comprehend posts, put it in context before commenting. For the record, do remember the first game of the season when Lamela had Grealish in his pocket? He even mugged him for an assist to Kane!
Relax mate. I was just saying I don't agree with the rationale you were using to mug off @Yiddo100 's post. Let's look at what you said again:

He must be a fucking Messi then . Lamela, injuries apart has bossed games against City, Chelsea, Arsenal and the likes. This guy who has been good against Fulham and other Championship sides and no PL experience, suddenly is going to be a HUGE upgrade on Lamela? Do me a favour
So you're saying that its laughable to think that a 24 year old player, who just scored 19G and 9A this season and could ikely win Championship POTS has the potential to be a "huge" upgrade on Lamela, a injury ridden 28 year old player that has provided 9G and 10A across the last 4 PL seasons? And yes, I acknowledge you said "injuries apart", but surely injuries also have to do with a player's impact..?

And your supporting logic behind this is because Benrahma has only scored goals against Championship clubs, whereas Lamela has scored against some of the biggest clubs in the world.. yet Benrahma has never had the opportunity to face these clubs.

Just curious, does this mean I should also "do you a favour" for believing that Ollie Watkins would be a "huge" upgrade on Troy Deeney?

24 year old Ollie Watkins scored 25G in the Championship this season, but surely that would mean he couldn't do much better next season in the Premier League than 32 year old Troy Deeney who banged them in against Arsenal and Manchester United this season?

For the record, do remember the first game of the season when Lamela had Grealish in his pocket? He even mugged him for an assist to Kane!

Yes, of course I do... but what relevance does this have to the point you're making? Because of that tackle, Lamela has proven that Grealish is not a "huge" upgrade on him? Or do I need to work on "reading and comprehending posts"?
 
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THOWIG

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Him and Watkins are the type of players who Sheffield United, Leeds, Villa will be all over and next summer could be valued at 3 times the amount.
 

leelee

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We have reportedly rejected Fraser on a free who is premier league proven. Don't know why we'd spend 20million on Benrahma in that case.

Edit: I would prefer Eze at this price. Home grown and serious potential.
 
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nedley

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He must be a fucking Messi then . Lamela, injuries apart has bossed games against City, Chelsea, Arsenal and the likes. This guy who has been good against Fulham and other Championship sides and no PL experience, suddenly is going to be a HUGE upgrade on Lamela? Do me a favour
The thing is nobody will know if its an upgrade. Granted we don't know what Benrahma could offer. But we do know what Coco offers and in the grand scheme of things, bearing in mind he's never really available, its pretty meh...
 

mr ashley

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Watching that video, I’m reminded of hazard. Low centre of gravity, quick feet and the ability to play with his head up.
A real game changer.
Now, I could have said something similar about Boufal.
But in all cases of scouting,its about judging the players mentality as much as their ability.
I don’t know how anyone can tell that from a YouTube video though.
 

mr ashley

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The thing is nobody will know if its an upgrade. Granted we don't know what Benrahma could offer. But we do know what Coco offers and in the grand scheme of things, bearing in mind he's never really available, its pretty meh...
Would lamela look world class in this team?
 

Finchyid

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Benrahma will be more than £16m. Seen him a lot has talent. Didnt show up in the big game. No chance we sign him
 

emiley heskey

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Watching that video, I’m reminded of hazard. Low centre of gravity, quick feet and the ability to play with his head up.
A real game changer.
Now, I could have said something similar about Boufal.
But in all cases of scouting,its about judging the players mentality as much as their ability.
I don’t know how anyone can tell that from a YouTube video though.

If we have judged mentality, I am sure we would not havr signed ndombele
 
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