ratings vs liverpool

[jonnyp]

LLoris - 5 - Should never let anyone score on his near post from that angle on the 1-0. On their second Walker made a horrible pass but if he decides to go out there he needs to anything else than what he did.

Walker - 2 - Was in nowhere's land on the first and the second I don't even want to mention. It makes me sick

Verts - 9 - Just immense.

Dawson 7 - Did well

BAE - 5 - Stupid pen after Defoe's horrible mistake

Sig - 6 - Sloppy and didn't contribute much.

Parker - 6 - Not great but not bad either

Livermore - 4 - So limited it's embarrassing. Why we didn't get Holtby on after our 2-1 goal I don't know.

Dembele - 8 - Excellent display. Just love watching him with the ball.

Bale - 7 - Nice deliveries but didn't get involved enough

Defoe - 2 - Greedy and useless, topped off by gifting them the pen pretty much

 

[cozzo]

If Adebayor had did what Defoe done, there would be a petition for him never to wear the shirt again

 

[faze_coys]

Voted Dembele because he had to play RM/DM/CM/AM all by himself today.

 

[matthew.absurdum]

why are there two positive numbers next to walker's and defoe's name?

 

[trnk]

Lloris - 5 - 2nd goal not entirely his fault, but still.

Dawson - 6 - A bit slow. But good in the air.
Vertonghen - 8 - A little mistake at the end, fortunately Sturridge dives. But excellent.
Walker - 3 - well ...
Benny - 4 - DO SOMETHING WITH THE BALL INSTEAD OF LOSING IT. + the penalty.

Livermore - 4 - when you don't know what to do with the ball, give it to Livermore. That's it. 2 tacles and 1 interception. Sandro is laughing right now.
Parker - 5 - Tired. A few good things though.

Dembélé - 7 - Good game for him. Played well between the lines, despite a poor start because of his unusual position.
Siggy - 5 - Poor finishing, that's too bad because he had a few really good opportunities. Didn't get along really great with Defoe, one forgetting the other and vice versa.
Bale - 7 - Did good with his 2 assists and created some chances. Was better in the 2nd half, when he played more on the right, with Dembélé on the left.

Defoe - 3 - Simply not good.

 

[elDiablo]

LLoris - 6 - Not his greatest game, but was commading at times. Dont think he can be blamed for the 1st goal.

Walker - 6 - THAT mistake aside, i thought he played well. Got up and down the pitch, and battled well with Suarez at time.

Verts - 9 - Top player

Dawson 8 - Another good performance from Daws. AVB has changed his fortunes around.

BAE - 5 - Poor game from him. Pen was the tip of it, but there were moments where Downing was causing him all sorts of problems. Yes Downing FFS.

Sig - 6.5 - Another decent performance. Really worked hard. Should have laid it off for Defoe though. Would Dempsey square it? Who knows, but if we really want to challenge the big guns, AVB needs to change this selfish mentality a few players seem to have.

Parker - 7 - covered alot of ground, and played well again, but wasnt afforded the time on the ball like against Inter. Maybe needs a rest too.

Livermore - 6 - Doesnt show for the ball enough for me as a DM. Doesnt attack with any poise or guile. Strong though. Could mature into a decent DM, but definitely not a great one.

Dembele - 8 - Bossed the game at times. Back to his best. A few sloppy moments, but some really excellent ones. Quite like his passion on the pitch. For someone who doesnt care too much for football, he sure cares when he's on the pitch.

Bale - 7.5 - 2 assists,and probably should have been 3. Again he is guilty of being selfish like sig and defoe, but at least he delivers. Great flick to set up Sig in the first half too.

Defoe - 4 - Really poor game. He was up against carragher at times, and i only remember him getting past him once. He is a decent squad player, and someone who needs to be brought on when the game is stretched. Unfortunately we cant afford to do that right now.

 

[felmani26]

Lloris - good aerially as per usual but will rue not booting the ball into row z or shepherd Downing wide.

Walker - started off brightly but faded spectacularly in a ball of attrocious positional play, WWE wrestling and decision making...well there really isn't anything more to be said. Dire.

Dawson - ok, nothing to write home about although wasn't comfortable dealing with Suarez.

Vertonghen - some timely interceptions and great last ditch challenges coupled with two well taken headed goals. A real asset.

BAE - wasnt particulalrly effective offensively or that competent defensively personified by a balls up resulting in the decisive penalty. Poor

Livermore - concentrated solely on the basics and nothing more adventurous but wasn't the reason we lost.

Parker - had good spells, had poor spells but was a million miles from his last game against Inter. Full marks for restraint not planting one on Suarez.

Dembele - majestic in midfield and was untouchable with the ball, gliding by with ease and back to his early season best. Will be crucial in our run-in.

Sigurdsson - tidy, but not enough gusto to take his marker on and make a telling impact. Should have squared it to Defoe and put the game to bed.

Bale - a lot is expected now and whilst it was a fabulous assist for the first goal, I don't think he did enough in the game to influence it enough and make his mark.

Defoe - disgraceful and whilst he was selfish last game with chances spurned, there were actual positives however this was just bad old Defoe who was completely anonymous and played a pivotal role in throwing away points.

Holtby - meh

Carroll - meh

 

[vdv]

Lloris 5
Walker 3
Dawson 6
Vertonghen 8
BAE 4
Dembele 8
Parker 6
Livermore 6
Bale 7
Sigurdsson 6
Defoe 0

 

[Bus-Conductor]

From the sublime to the ridiculous (in 3 days).

The ridiculous being the manner in which we vomited up a hard earned three points all over our own shoes. In every other way that was such a good performance. That's the first time this season I have seen Liverpool so thoroughly dominated on their own manor. I can't remember seeing Liverpool create so little.

If I'm totally honest, it was not the performance I was expecting. I was expecting a Liverpool, buoyed by recent form, new signings and gradually getting to grips with Rodgers methodology to control much more of the game. Especially after our Europa tie three days prior. First 5 minutes they looked bright and at it, but as is the way with us now, we were having none it, we slowly set about doing our "thing". And for me it's a thing of beauty. We hunt the ball down, we win it, we pass it, we move.

That was the best performance we've put in at Anfield for as long as I can remember. There were a couple of others in recent years, but compare that to last years insipid embarrassment, the transformation was total.

Parker after a somewhat iffy first 20 minutes settled into the game, Livermore, without being great was bloody competent and Dembele was also very influential and the way he played it was like we almost became a sort of lop sided 433. Those three dominated the midfield, AVB tactically outwitting Rodgers, who eventually realised the problem, bringing Allen on.

I think Walker has actually looked more composed in the last 2/3 games than at any time in his career with us. I think his positional awareness has looked slightly better too - I could be wrong, it's only been a couple of games that it's looked that way. The problem is, despite some progress on these fronts, he has strong negatives in his DNA too, good coaching may negate some, improve the positives etc, but how many times has Walker got away with a poor choice of pass over the last couple of years. He did one against Inter fore-instance, that went unmentioned because it would have seemed churlish after such a good performance by the team and him. He also got away with getting wrong sided and fouling their player (Countinho I think) first half. The mistake today was one of immense proportions. I have no idea what he was thinking or trying.

Defoe was possibly the difference between us cruising to victory and not. He offered so little it was scary. And then when he gets on the ball his half witted tunnel vision invariably wastes the moment. Contrast him with Suarez. It's stark. I think Suarez is a spiteful little ****, but Defoe is an insipid ****. I know who I'd prefer. I think with Suarez in our side we'd be pissing a CL place. What the fuck he was doing for the pen I have no idea either. Bewildering fuckwittedness of immense dimensions. Ekotto's contribution shouldn't be overlooked, rash and unnecessary.

The first goal was also down to some individual errors. Dembele lets their guy run off him, Livermore lets Suarez run, Walker was a bit untidy and Dawson seems to be ball watching unaware of Suarez's movement.

Many, many games you will get away with the individual errors we made today, even Downing's fucking shot went straight at Vertonghen, only to go through his legs.

The sad thing is they meant we didn't reap what a very, very good performance deserved. Well played Spurs.

Individual ramblings:

Lloris - Not sure if he could have done anything different for their equaliser. Apart from that was good I think.

Walker - I think he was having a very decent game until he had an unfortunately typical Walker moment, just even worse than the usual ones.

Dawson - I think there was a moment where Suarez is in front of him and he gets caught watching the ball and in the blink of an eye Suarez has run in and scored. Other than that I think he had a very decent game and has, a bit like Walker, looked a tad more composed of late.

Vertonghen - Outstanding performance.

Ekotto - I know people think's he's clever because he can string three sentences together and drives a noddy car, but I think some of his choices are as stupid as Walker's, at both ends of the pitch. For me, ultimately, like Walker, he doesn't actually contribute enough in an attacking sense for his defensive frailties to trade off. In between (each end) he was, as ever, pretty good. Seeing plenty of ball and contributing to midfield game play.

Parker - Slightly inauspicious start, gave the ball away sloppily a couple of times, but got a grip of the game and therein was very good.

Livermore - Does everything in a slightly predictable and pedestrian way but his slight negligence in the first goal aside was very competent today and had a decent game.

Demebele - Good game, very influential. Constantly involved.

Bale - Decent game, great delivery for the first goal. Kept making himself available and trying to spark something.

Sigurdsson - Worked hard, incredibly unlucky not to score.

Defoe - There was one moment second half where he has the ball on the edge of their box, he has two defenders in front of him, Sigurdsson makes a great move to his left, there are two or three options to his right. Defoe, of course, just blasts the fucking ball straight at the defenders. This is followed by a chorus of "Jermain Defoe, he is yiddo". I'm not sure hwo is stupider, him or the fucking choir.

Ref - Just a note on the ref who I thought was excellent today. Was calm and unfazed by Suarez's antics, backed up by the baying crowd. Was sensible throughout and managed the game superbly.

AVB - Stupidity of immense dimension robbed him of a great tactical victory.

 

[SugarRay]

If Adebayor had did what Defoe done, there would be a petition for him never to wear the shirt again

I agree. Hard to say Defoe should never wear the shirt again though given he has over a hundred goals for the club and despite his limitations, always wants to play for us and score goals.

 

[Nocando]

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but Defoe is an insipid ****. .

Sigurdsson - incredibly unlucky not to score.

"Jermain Defoe, he is yiddo". I'm not sure hwo is stupider, him or the fucking choir.

Ref - Was clam.

Agree with most apart from the bits above (especially the ref being a sea creature).

 

[SugarRay]

Lloris has to take a share of the blame for the second. Fair enough, Walkers back pass was effing moronic but Hugo had the chance to try and boot it out if the stadium.

Defoes "clearance" was proper spastic, matched only by BAE's attempts to try and prove Brent Rodgers theory that Suarez gets no decisions anymore by seeing if he could get away with a blatant foul in the box on the buck toothed wanker.

Such a shame and I believe cost us three points today ( we were in complete control and looked more likely to score again at 1-2 )

 

[Nocando]

Lloris has to take a share of the blame for the second.

Looking back could Hugo have clattered or man handled Downing or would it have been a pen? I don't think it would have been red because there were players around/behind him. I think he tried to be a little too cute in nicking the ball (which nearly worked).

 

[cozzo]

Lloris has to take a share of the blame for the second. Fair enough, Walkers back pass was effing moronic but Hugo had the chance to try and boot it out if the stadium.

Defoes "clearance" was proper spastic, matched only by BAE's attempts to try and prove Brent Rodgers theory that Suarez gets no decisions anymore by seeing if he could get away with a blatant foul in the box on the buck toothed wanker.

Such a shame and I believe cost us three points today ( we were in complete control and looked more likely to score again at 1-2 )

I disagree the bounce of the ball made it difficult for Lloris to clear it properly. It was Walker's fault and thats it.

 

[mpickard2087]

Lloris should have slung his boot through it, or headed it, just put it into touch. Looked to me like he tried to poke it to the nearest Spurs player (Ekotto I think) and well... it didnt work.

 

[Wheeler Dealer]

Liverpool were there for the taking. Their midfield was ponderous, nervous and ineffective, but when you have the creative spark of Parker and Livermore to carve them apart, I just knew it was going to be one of those days.

 

[thinktank]

Liverpool were there for the taking. Their midfield was ponderous, nervous and ineffective, but when you have the creative spark of Parker and Livermore to carve them apart, I just knew it was going to be one of those days.

But it wasn't "one of those days" because of either of those players, ultimately. Until Walker and Defoe each took a thought-shit, things were going swimmingly and we were cruising to a well deserved win.

 

[JimmyG2]

Lloris...............6..Could have done better with the poor ball from Walker
Walker............6-1..Playing ok until the ridiculous back pass.
Dawson...........7..Sound against a dangerous opponent
Vertonghen......9-1.MOM.Excellent display. Should have cleared the Downing goal.
BAE.................5. Lost the ball on occasions. Didn't get away with the reckless challenge this time.
Dembele..........8..Good game, seemed quicker and stronger than of late.
Parker..............6..OK should lay the ball of more quickly.
Livermore.........6..Good chance to stake a real claim. Lost in the post I'm afraid.
Bale.................7..Some nice touches and two assists.
Sigurdsson........6..Should have scored and set up Defoe for another.
Defoe...............3..If he doesn't score he's just a nuisance or a liability today.

 

[SugarRay]

I disagree the bounce of the ball made it difficult for Lloris to clear it properly. It was Walker's fault and thats it.

That's it huh? Well I, and seemingly plenty of others don't agree.

Shocking back pass but he didn't play Downing through on goal. Lloris had the chance to get something on it. Walker to blame for the most part? Certainly. I expect a keeper of Lloris' experience to deal with that to be honest.

 

[shaqTHFC]

Lloris should have slung his boot through it, or headed it, just put it into touch. Looked to me like he tried to poke it to the nearest Spurs player (Ekotto I think) and well... it didnt work.

Didn't he try to just boot it in a Europa game after a poor Naughton backpass and it came off their player and they scored? I can't remember which team it was but it could explain why he tried to be a bit cute with this one.