Premier League announces pay-per-view fixtures in October

[mark87]

Yeah I've seen closer to $100 for some boxing fights.
We tend to get them for around £20.

It's not a surprise that piracy is rife with the prices some broadcasters charge for sports.

100 dollars? Fuck that shit even more.

 

[mark87]

That's only the price if you're a yearly subscriber...as a one-off it'll be more than that.

And to think some people will be paying for it just for the main event and that particular fight could be over within a couple minutes makes it even more insane.

 

[Laboog]

And to think some people will be paying for it just for the main event and that particular fight could be over within a couple minutes makes it even more insane.

I remember a few years ago I was at a bar with some friends and a group of people came in who reserved a corner with a big TV and they paid for a UFC fight PPV. The fight last only a few minutes. About an hour later I looked up and the weather channel was on the big screen TV as the group of people were sitting around drinking and I just thought it was a huge waste of money.

 

[mark87]

I remember a few years ago I was at a bar with some friends and a group of people came in who reserved a corner with a big TV and they paid for a UFC fight PPV. The fight last only a few minutes. About an hour later I looked up and the weather channel was on the big screen TV as the group of people were sitting around drinking and I just thought it was a huge waste of money.

That does seem odd, I can only imagine they have tried paying for the ufc/boxing before but didn't see the return in customers perhaps and so didn't do it again.

 

[fortworthspur]

And to think some people will be paying for it just for the main event and that particular fight could be over within a couple minutes makes it even more insane.

or boring as hell like Mayweather/McGregor - the one time I paid for a fight at the behest of my son.

 

[sausage]

"£4.95, when in combination with a compulsory purchase of a Mug and Magazine for £1.99"

 

[carmeldevil]

 

[SirHarryHotspur]

The Premier League and the clubs would have achieved a much better publicity for PPV if they had announced that it would protect jobs of the lower paid at PL clubs. PL clubs like Spurs are not only about highly paid footballers and managers what about the gardeners, receptionists, cooks & cleaners etc that rely on Spurs for their livelihoods in these unpredictable times. The PL and clubs would have got much better publicity if they had used that policy.

 

[rez9000]

Why?

It's called enablement, buddy. It's the thin end of the wedge. If people say, as you did, 'why shouldn't I...?' then it enables those looking to constantly scour more and more money from people like you and I to keep doing it. And doing it. And doing it. And doing it again and again and again.

We already have an alarmingly rentier approach to goods and services foisted on us - where we less and less and less own things and instead rent things. This is just a continuation of that.

You go out to work, you earn money through your labour, you then spend that money and at the end of it you have nothing tangible, and the entities that have rented you something have the money that you've sweated to gain in their pocket as well as the product that you don't own too.

That's not to say that everything you pay for has to be permanent. Sure, there's space for renting some things - going on holiday, paying for a cinema ticket. But when the cost of production is always coming down and the companies renting you the product are making enough profit already (the current situation notwithstanding), trying to then make more money is just greed. What's worse is that when there's a captive audience, with football being for many the only spectacle they can really afford, then it goes beyond greed into outright exploitation.

And by submitting to it, instead of resisting, you make it easier for those with that objective to do it to you and all of us later down the line. You may not feel it today because, today, £15 may not seem like much to you. But it's a drop in the ocean compared to how much you may end up having to pay later down the line.

 

[slartibartfast]

It's called enablement, buddy. It's the thin end of the wedge. If people say, as you did, 'why shouldn't I...?' then it enables those looking to constantly scour more and more money from people like you and I to keep doing it. And doing it. And doing it. And doing it again and again and again.

We already have an alarmingly rentier approach to goods and services foisted on us - where we less and less and less own things and instead rent things. This is just a continuation of that.

You go out to work, you earn money through your labour, you then spend that money and at the end of it you have nothing tangible, and the entities that have rented you something have the money that you've sweated to gain in their pocket as well as the product that you don't own too.

That's not to say that everything you pay for has to be permanent. Sure, there's space for renting some things - going on holiday, paying for a cinema ticket. But when the cost of production is always coming down and the companies renting you the product are making enough profit already (the current situation notwithstanding), trying to then make more money is just greed. What's worse is that when there's a captive audience, with football being for many the only spectacle they can really afford, then it goes beyond greed into outright exploitation.

And by submitting to it, instead of resisting, you make it easier for those with that objective to do it to you and all of us later down the line. You may not feel it today because, today, £15 may not seem like much to you. But it's a drop in the ocean compared to how much you may end up having to pay later down the line.

Glad you explained that because I couldn't be bothered lol.
Thought it was obvious to be honest but apparently not.

 

[ILS]

It's called enablement, buddy. It's the thin end of the wedge. If people say, as you did, 'why shouldn't I...?' then it enables those looking to constantly scour more and more money from people like you and I to keep doing it. And doing it. And doing it. And doing it again and again and again.

We already have an alarmingly rentier approach to goods and services foisted on us - where we less and less and less own things and instead rent things. This is just a continuation of that.

You go out to work, you earn money through your labour, you then spend that money and at the end of it you have nothing tangible, and the entities that have rented you something have the money that you've sweated to gain in their pocket as well as the product that you don't own too.

That's not to say that everything you pay for has to be permanent. Sure, there's space for renting some things - going on holiday, paying for a cinema ticket. But when the cost of production is always coming down and the companies renting you the product are making enough profit already (the current situation notwithstanding), trying to then make more money is just greed. What's worse is that when there's a captive audience, with football being for many the only spectacle they can really afford, then it goes beyond greed into outright exploitation.

And by submitting to it, instead of resisting, you make it easier for those with that objective to do it to you and all of us later down the line. You may not feel it today because, today, £15 may not seem like much to you. But it's a drop in the ocean compared to how much you may end up having to pay later down the line.

Some very good points but just understand it from my point of view. I live in the Midlands, I go to 5 or 6 Spurs games a season as a family of four. That is £200 on bronze membership per year, £25 on a fuel per game. Plus close to £200 for four tickets per game. That equates to a £1k a season for me to take my family in ticket prices alone. Plus food and drink on top.

The last game I went to was Norwich at home back in January. The atmosphere was shit, the stadium is full of tourists and I happen to have some utter retard behind me, pissed out of his head screaming the biggest load of drivel that even my 10 year old at the time was questioning. That game alone cost me £350 all in.

I already pay for Sky because I Love football and like to watch it. The thought of paying £15 a game every other week extra for the team I love is a bargain compared to what I had currently spent going to the games. Plus I get to watch a match whilst spending it with you guys on the match thread.

As with anything you want to buy it, buy it. You think it is too expensive or can't afford it then don't. If they drop it to £5 a match even better, however come 7.15pm on Sunday evening, I get to watch my side and that is the end of it for me.

 

[Tucker]

I fully intend to be watching the game on Sunday too.

They won’t be getting a penny from me for it though.

 

[yankspurs]

or boring as hell like Mayweather/McGregor - the one time I paid for a fight at the behest of my son.

I paid for that fight and didnt watch a second of it. I passed out drunk before hand and woke up at 3am with a mean hangover for an early flight at JFK. Fun times!

 

[rez9000]

Some very good points but just understand it from my point of view. I live in the Midlands, I go to 5 or 6 Spurs games a season as a family of four. That is £200 on bronze membership per year, £25 on a fuel per game. Plus close to £200 for four tickets per game. That equates to a £1k a season for me to take my family in ticket prices alone. Plus food and drink on top.

The last game I went to was Norwich at home back in January. The atmosphere was shit, the stadium is full of tourists and I happen to have some utter retard behind me, pissed out of his head screaming the biggest load of drivel that even my 10 year old at the time was questioning. That game alone cost me £350 all in.

I already pay for Sky because I Love football and like to watch it. The thought of paying £15 a game every other week extra for the team I love is a bargain compared to what I had currently spent going to the games. Plus I get to watch a match whilst spending it with you guys on the match thread.

As with anything you want to buy it, buy it. You think it is too expensive or can't afford it then don't. If they drop it to £5 a match even better, however come 7.15pm on Sunday evening, I get to watch my side and that is the end of it for me.

I absolutely understand your viewpoint - it's actually what contributes to the problem. Not you as a person, just the situation you happen to be in.

The fact that there will be many like you, in your situation, is precisely what those who want to continue to get money out of football fans rely on. They rely on scarcity, the difficulty for those like yourself who don't have access. They will seek to exploit you and others like you by dangling the possibility of giving you access to something that you don't currently have. But then it becomes an "alea iacta est" situation: the die is cast and that's the end of it - it becomes the new normal.

In the same way that some people have been posting that PPV boxing is in the region of $50, $60, $100 is the perfect example of how demand from a captive audience is exploited with 'reasonable' (in the view of some and the Prem PPV price notwithstanding) prices during the early phases, until it becomes the new normal and then gradually dialled up. Today it costs £14.95, next year it'll be £18 or something, and then £25, until we get to the point where it's costing £40, £50, £60 for the 'big' games.

It's like Sky. When they first started broadcasting football, Sky Sports used to be part of a Sky subscription package. Then they started charging separately for it, and the price keeps getting jacked up. Incrementally, but inevitably.

And do you know what the dark underbelly of it all is? The impact it'll have on live tickets. As the price for PPV goes up, so too will the price for regular tickets. It's basic economics.

Essentially what it boils down to is exploiting people willing to get instant gratification in exchange for having their wallets emptied down the line.

 

[SirHarryHotspur]

I fully intend to be watching the game on Sunday too.

They won’t be getting a penny from me for it though.

If everyone does that we would have to sell Harry & Co & every other PL team would have to sell as well , fans want top players who demand top wages but whinge about the cost. Might be wrong but it seems most moans come from fans who don't shell out a lot of money to actually attend games as a regular attender I will pay the £15, could use a dodgy stream but having saved quite a bit from the lockout of fans my bank balance is higher than normal.

 

[Tucker]

If everyone does that we would have to sell Harry & Co & every other PL team would have to sell as well , fans want top players who demand top wages but whinge about the cost. Might be wrong but it seems most moans come from fans who don't shell out a lot of money to actually attend games as a regular attender I will pay the £15, could use a dodgy stream but having saved quite a bit from the lockout of fans my bank balance is higher than normal.

I pay more than my fair share in Sky and BT subs thanks.

 

[skiba]

If everyone does that we would have to sell Harry & Co & every other PL team would have to sell as well , fans want top players who demand top wages but whinge about the cost. Might be wrong but it seems most moans come from fans who don't shell out a lot of money to actually attend games as a regular attender I will pay the £15, could use a dodgy stream but having saved quite a bit from the lockout of fans my bank balance is higher than normal.

I'm saving money from not having to pay my season ticket but won't pay the £15 out of principle. It's clear those at the top of the game don't give a fuck about the fans and haven't done so for a while. They see our loyalty as something to be milked and I'm sick of them constantly increasing subscription and ticket prices knowing that we will suck it up and pay out of blind loyalty.

We subscribe to two different broadcasters in this country and pay a premium for an inferior product compared to the rest of the world where you can pretty much watch every game as part of a subscription. I've always understood that the reason these games aren't broadcast in the UK is because of the 3 pm blackout and had hoped that now this is no longer an issue we would receive service on par with everyone outside the UK. But no, once again it's viewed as an opportunity to take another dip into our wallets.

They have earned £5.2m gross from 9 games already, around £580k per game from the last two weekends of fixtures. Extrapolating that over a the rest of the season will give the clubs approx an extra £83.2m in TV revenue to be shared, which if done equally is just under £4.2m each. Such figures won't lead to us and the rest of the league having to sell players.

I think it's great to see fans uniting against this and the embarrassing viewing figures. For too long I've felt fans in this country have just sat by whilst those at the top continue to make it harder and more expensive to follow our teams and it's about time we took stand.

 

[Swalien]

My friend at work brought up a good argument about these £15 games the premier league and sky/bt are trying to charge us for. He said that his girlfriend in malaysia and her family (and I imagine a lot of people abroad outside of UK) are able to watch the games for free and we the fans in the same country as the teams we support have to pay these extortionate prices to watch individual games. The way he mentioned it he was saying that we are kind of victimised for living in the same country as the clubs and that us having to pay for it makes it free for people in other countries who don't have to pay for it. Yes I know the premier league are obsessed in making their "product" the most popular around the world. It made me think that surely if they lowered the price in England / UK wherever we have to pay to, say £1 and raised the price in these countries where it is free to watch to say £1, like make it a fair affordable price all around the world then surely the premier league and all the other bodies who make a slice of the money would make enough money even more than now? Also £1 is not too much for any person to pay to watch the games. Im sure they could claw back the £14 they would lose (or gain since not many fans are buying into it) from the UK fans who would now be paying £1. I could easily name 14 countries and more where £1 to watch whichever game would surely be the right thing to do to go some way in giving the sport back to the fans.

 

[tototoner]

Premier League likely to scrap PPV model

The Premier League is likely to scrap controversial pay-per-view matches after the upcoming international window.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Tucker]

Premier League likely to scrap PPV model

The Premier League is likely to scrap controversial pay-per-view matches after the upcoming international window.

www.bbc.co.uk

Sanity prevails, for now.