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McFlash

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i think you're underplaying the tackle here. it wasn't just an insignificant trip, son goes flying in at speed and catches gomes halfway up the shin. it shouldn't have been a red card and obviously he didn't go in with the intention of causing gomes to break his leg but i think it's pretty clear that he did go in with the intention of taking the guy down with a fair amount of force.
Yeah, maybe you're right.
I mean it wasn't a little shirt pull, it was a fast paced lunge but it was a typical clumsy forward's challenge, I thought, rather than a spiteful, vengeance fuelled take out.
 

14/04/91

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You are slightly incorrect here though, VAR did look at it during the 10 minute break, and confirmed the advice Atkinson was given by his linesman and fourth official to send Son off was appropriate.
They also did look at Aurier during that interval, but decided no dismissal required.
I honestly don’t recall the Chowdhury/Salah one much, but I know Salah is still playing, so his safety has not been endangered as much in the opinion of the referees. Yes Son has only been sent off due to the consequences, that I totally agree with, and like you don’t think he should have been, but can understand why he was.

I just feel it was such an unusual set of circumstances that a red card for the initial challenge was unbelievably harsh. I sincerely hope common sense prevails as Son shouldn’t be blamed for what happened.

Have a look at the Choudury one; it was almost identical in terms of the type of challenge. Ok Gomes isn’t ‘still playing’ and Salah is but that is not as a result of a the actual challenge, imo.
 

glacierSpurs

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As others have said, the only correct thing the FA can do now is rescind the red card. If they don't, they're essentially saying Son broke Gomes' leg, when he didnt. That indictment alone will destroy Son. You could see the moment he realised what had happened he was mortified. I'm sure he'll take some comfort from an official governing body ruling that, although he initiated the challenge, he wasnt directly responsible for breaking his leg.

It would be ridiculously cruel for the FA to uphold the decision, when it wasn't anything close to being a red card anyway. The failing by that wanker Atkinson should be enough to rescind it too.

With that said, I fully expect them to uphold it.
Which is really startling that FA just can't seem to admit their mistakes. Even the refs. If decisions are wrong, especially in such concerning incidents where both of players' mental and physical well-being are involved, just admit it and work towards correcting the decisions. I really doubt neither Everton or us will complain over any rulings if fair judgement is being made afterwards.

In the current times, the FA is still operating like the bronze age ffs. That statement released so soon after the match is just ridiculous.
 
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Grapo2001

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I can't see it being rescinded. Whether or not it happens countless times in every game and is a yellow card challenge, it was the challenge that caused a guy to break his ankle. If son doesn't get wound up and lash out this doesn't happen. Harsh, maybe, but it's Sons fault.
 

Bulletspur

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Oct 17, 2006
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Losing Son for 3 games for that is a bit of a shambles even though I understand why the ref has done it. He shouldn’t have though. Nicest guy in football has 2 undeserved (IMO) red cards in a few months! Bottom line in this instance is that if Aurier wasn’t there, Gomez wouldn’t have broken his foot.
So because Aurier isn't as "nice" as Son so it was his fault then. Get a fucking grip. It was an unfortunate accident initiated by Son's awkward tackle. His foot was broken before he got to Aurier
 

wrd

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If Son doesn't make the tackle then Gomes still has two ankles? That's how i see it

Its just not the right to look at it at all, its a contact sport, accidents happens and tackles like that happen multiple times a game. You cant punish somebody because on one occasion the guy has fallen and broken his ankle. Actions are what are punished not resulting consequences and if you punished this type of action consistently with red cards then we would be looking at a non contact sport or teams finishing 8-a-side.
 

Time for Heroes

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Its just not the right to look at it at all, its a contact sport, accidents happens and tackles like that happen multiple times a game. You cant punish somebody because on one occasion the guy has fallen and broken his ankle. Actions are what are punished not resulting consequences and if you punished this type of action consistently with red cards then we would be looking at a non contact sport or teams finishing 8-a-side.

Stop with this no contact nonsense, its was a malicious tackle from behind and nowhere near the ball.
 

wrd

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Stop with this no contact nonsense, its was a malicious tackle from behind and nowhere near the ball.

And as I said we see countless tackles like this everygame. Look at the tackle that Davies received from Walcott in the same game. Its a yellow. You just cant see beyond the result.
 

wrd

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No studs, no straight leg force, foot wasnt high. Hes tripped the guy from behind and got nowhere near the ball but tried to do him is ridiculous.

Also no we wouldnt; case and point the vast majority of people were sensible enough when Delph clattered into Kane to realise that these things happen.
 
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