Player Watch Player Watch: Ryan Sessegnon

[he is you know!]

Jose has also praised Skipp but is ready to send him out on loan.

I have a feeling it might be the same for Cirkin.

I hope so anyway as I think Sess will be a huge success if given a chance.

In 2 seasons time we could have our left back position sorted for years to come.

He has said that both Cirkin and White will be in the 1st team squad next season, they will not be loaned.

 

[Who’s our next manager?]

He was a big mistake, he isn't a top player and doesn't have the attributes to be either a great winger or LB.
Sell and move on

Agreed

 

[JamieSpursCommunityUser]

LilyWhite Rose on tweeted this

"Fulham’s vice-chairman on signing Sessegnon on loan: I am not interested. Ryan already played for us in
@premierleague
& he didn’t do enough to keep us in there. We get 2 loans I can’t be in the business of developing other people’s players when they don’t have time to play them"

Looks like someone's bitter for leaving them......

Bet that went down well with Ryan’s twin brother who has just broken into their first team.

 

[Who’s our next manager?]

Agreed

He had a great year in the Championship but his one year at the top level was disappointing.I know he was,in a struggling Fulham side but he struggled.

 

[ButchCassidy]

He had a great year in the Championship but his one year at the top level was disappointing.I know he was,in a struggling Fulham side but he struggled.

FFS he was 18 years old! How many now-top-level players at 18 were struggling in U23 competitions, let alone the bloody Premier League!

 

[NHAndy]

LilyWhite Rose on tweeted this

"Fulham’s vice-chairman on signing Sessegnon on loan: I am not interested. Ryan already played for us in
@premierleague
& he didn’t do enough to keep us in there. We get 2 loans I can’t be in the business of developing other people’s players when they don’t have time to play them"

Looks like someone's bitter for leaving them......

so they won’t want a loan of Skipp, either.

 

[DiVaio]

He had a great year in the Championship but his one year at the top level was disappointing.I know he was,in a struggling Fulham side but he struggled.

In a struggling Fulham he struggled and ended with 2 goals and 6 assists playing under 3 different managers in 6 different positions. Soo bad.

 

[GutBucket]

FFS he was 18 years old! How many now-top-level players at 18 were struggling in U23 competitions, let alone the bloody Premier League!

Don't think he was even bad, 2 goals and 6 assists for a terrible side.

 

[joey55]

He was a big mistake, he isn't a top player and doesn't have the attributes to be either a great winger or LB.
Sell and move on

I don't think he can be classed as a mistake, as he's still very young and as a LB, he has all the tools you need. But FB is probably the most challenging position in the modern game, so it's a big gamble when you pay a lot of money for a young player to play that position. I'd say he was a mistake if he was bought to play as a wing forward, as you only need to look at the best in that position in the Prem, to tell what's needed to be a success there and I see no signs Ryan is the next Mane or Salah. But what did Ashley Cole have that Ryan doesn't?

He's got a real challenge ahead of him, but he lacks nothing needed to be an elite level LB. Davies, for example, with his attributes, can only go so far. He's just not got the legs to be a Cafu. The modern FB has to have incredible stamina, real pace, good timing, strength, intelligence and of course a good final ball. Even then there is still a high chance a player will fail, as the art of defending is hard enough as it is, but when you also have attack, it's just an absolute bastard of a job and so hard to get right.

In my opinion the most important thing for Sessegnon is to play games. I hope Jose rates Cirkin enough so that he feels ok to loan Ryan out, as has been touted. Look at Danny Rose, he always had the physical attributes and right mentality, but he needed game time to learn the role. His loan to Sunderland was the making of him and he still needed a further season with us, before he really got to grips with playing LB and became good enough to be in the PFA TOTY and get lots of England caps. I think most of our fans would agree, of all the players Poch's anti loan stance cost most, it was KWP. Unlike Onomah and Edwards, there has never been any issue's with KWP's attitude. I'd go as far as saying he's probably the nicest kid to come through our academy, which is high praise seeing as we produced Winksy, who is every parents dream of a kid. But KWP always seemed to green. He desperately needed to learn his craft by playing week in week out. Sadly he didn't get to that until he was 23. Sessegnon needs to play 30+ Prem games next season, not the occasional Europa League and League Cup games.

 

[Dazzazzad]

In my opinion the most important thing for Sessegnon is to play games. I hope Jose rates Cirkin enough so that he feels ok to loan But KWP always seemed to green. He desperately needed to learn his craft by playing week in week out. Sadly he didn't get to that until he was 23. Sessegnon needs to play 30+ Prem games next season, not the occasional Europa League and League Cup games.

I don't disagree but it's a very different situation to Kyle. Sess already has 112 senior appearances. Not many 20 year olds have had as much game time as he has had.

 

[razzmaster]

In a struggling Fulham he struggled and ended with 2 goals and 6 assists playing under 3 different managers in 6 different positions. Soo bad.

At a similar age, Jack Grealish scored 1 goal and got 0 assists as Aston Villa were relegated to the Championship.

 

[THFCSPURS19]

Thats my opinion.

And thank you for posting rumors and articles in the transfer forum
Back to Aarons...

Pathetic. You've just proved you don't have a single shred of evidence to make your ridiculous claim.

We're in the Sess thread now so please prove me wrong.

 

[spursfan77]

I’d still quite like to see him played as a right sided attacker asked to cut inside onto his left. Probably easy for defenders to deal with as they’d just show him onto the outside every time. But with the standard of defending not being the best in the PL he would definitely catch out some teams.

 

[mark87]

so they won’t want a loan of Skipp, either.

Sounds like they won't want any kind of loan then, unless the player is in their 30's

 

[Japhet]

I think it would make sense for us to switch our 'attacking' full back to the left and blood Sessegnon in this role (rather than Aurier on the right, who will probably go). To me he looks far better going forward but it doesn't look like Mourinho will play a back 5 consistently so he might get exposed more than Aurier would

What is certain is that he needs to play games, if he's not going to get 20 starts all competitions at least we should loan him out, ideally to a Premiership club that would use him as a full-back

The problem with that is that we don't have anyone to babysit him on the left like Sissoko did with Aurier. I think Mourinho might go predominantly 433 which would likely mean Winks or Ndombele on the left, and that doesn't bode very well if Sessegnon pushes high up the pitch. If he gets game time I think he'll have to play a more orthodox LB role.

 

[spids]

At a club with CL aspirations every year any young player has to be very special to get in the team at 21/22. Kane was. Dele was. Rooney at Everton broke the mould at 16! Foden at Man City, although he is having to be very patient, is another special player. Sessegnon is not in that category for me. He is a player who needs to continue developing before he is ready for a top 4 team. Buying players like him was great when we were consistently a 7th/8th/9th/10th team and were good enough for our first team and developed on the job. But we have to aim higher now. Buying Sessegnon and Clarke (combined £35M) was a mistake last summer when it was obvious the first team needed a good overhaul, and this is where I do have a lot of sympathy for Poch.

 

[spids]

The problem with that is that we don't have anyone to babysit him on the left like Sissoko did with Aurier. I think Mourinho might go predominantly 433 which would likely mean Winks or Ndombele on the left, and that doesn't bode very well if Sessegnon pushes high up the pitch. If he gets game time I think he'll have to play a more orthodox LB role.

We should not be babysitting Aurier on the right, let alone Sessegnon on the left. We need FBs who are up to the job from the get go.

 

[coy-spurs1882]

At a club with CL aspirations every year any young player has to be very special to get in the team at 21/22. Kane was. Dele was. Rooney at Everton broke the mould at 16! Foden at Man City, although he is having to be very patient, is another special player. Sessegnon is not in that category for me. He is a player who needs to continue developing before he is ready for a top 4 team. Buying players like him was great when we were consistently a 7th/8th/9th/10th team and were good enough for our first team and developed on the job. But we have to aim higher now. Buying Sessegnon and Clarke (combined £35M) was a mistake last summer when it was obvious the first team needed a good overhaul, and this is where I do have a lot of sympathy for Poch.

both of them were poch's choices

 

[richard_gleeson]

At a club with CL aspirations every year any young player has to be very special to get in the team at 21/22. Kane was. Dele was. Rooney at Everton broke the mould at 16! Foden at Man City, although he is having to be very patient, is another special player. Sessegnon is not in that category for me. He is a player who needs to continue developing before he is ready for a top 4 team. Buying players like him was great when we were consistently a 7th/8th/9th/10th team and were good enough for our first team and developed on the job. But we have to aim higher now. Buying Sessegnon and Clarke (combined £35M) was a mistake last summer when it was obvious the first team needed a good overhaul, and this is where I do have a lot of sympathy for Poch.

Agree, 3 years chasing Sessegnon and then spending £10m on Clarke who has shown next to nothing on his loans is crazy. We could have got 1 player with real quality for that money.

 

[Spursberg]

At a club with CL aspirations every year any young player has to be very special to get in the team at 21/22. Kane was. Dele was. Rooney at Everton broke the mould at 16! Foden at Man City, although he is having to be very patient, is another special player. Sessegnon is not in that category for me. He is a player who needs to continue developing before he is ready for a top 4 team. Buying players like him was great when we were consistently a 7th/8th/9th/10th team and were good enough for our first team and developed on the job. But we have to aim higher now. Buying Sessegnon and Clarke (combined £35M) was a mistake last summer when it was obvious the first team needed a good overhaul, and this is where I do have a lot of sympathy for Poch.

i agree to some extent on this. Levy is stuck at the same mindset he had when he took over the club. But we still need to take some chances on young players, but the "Tottenham way" needs adjustment, or we will fast be tracking back to 7th -10th finishes.

To dare is to do have sadly only been a slogan on the pitch tho, not in the boardroom. As buying young English players is rarely any risk due to the quota and you usually get your money back.