Player Watch: Ryan Mason
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King of Otters
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Bullied? It'd get absolutely jizzed on. After seeing the way the likes of Adam and Moses breezed Carroll yesterday I'd have serious concerns about playing him midfield full stop, let alone as a holding mid alongside Mason of all people.
thinktank
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Milner's certainly turned it on. Was unrecognisable against us, fair play to him.
spurs9
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I actually haven't even seen our game v City yet, so that was even excluding that performance.
I wonder if City will offer him a new contract of let him go at the end of the season.
Maybe not away from home but when teams come to WHL & park the bus I think it would give us a bit more creativity.
theShiznit
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I don't even think mason is fully up to speed yet. A few weeks more of first team action and we'll see even more from him IMO. Especially as he's still learning the formation/position too.
THFCSPURS19
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Poch would be mad to drop Capoue. He's been immense for the majority of this season. If anything, I can see Stambouli playing with Capoue but obviously that would only happen if Mason had a massive drop in performance (and, of course, this applies to Capoue as well but he's just perfect for Poch's system)
As for Tom Carroll (not related to your post...), I don't think he has a future with us. He's just not good enough from what I've seen and very overrated on here. The fact that some people suggest that he should start is crazy (let alone being in the squad). Suggesting he should play with Mason is just full on stupidity.
thinktank
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If they do flog he's worth a punt by the looks of him now. I used to think he was a useless duke nukem headed clown but he's recently become a very useful player indeed.
iluvsteffenfreund
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Carroll is far too lightweight. Thought he really struggled on Sunday against a mediocre side, not good enough to play for us just yet. Mason however I have been impressed with. Has done more than enough to start for us. Stambouli needs a chance however, has looked good Everytime he has played. He will start thurs
THFCSPURS19
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I agree with you on this one (although you know I disagree with you when it comes to other youth players
). Yeah, Stambouli has looked good when he's played- I have no idea why, for the most part (last Saturday being an exception), he hasn't been on the bench for PL games.
iluvsteffenfreund
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I think poch didn't want to throw the likes of him and fazio straight in as he obviously believes they need to earn the right. Hopefully he can see these 2 are worthy of being in every squad. Stambouli will be pushing capoue hard now if he is poor against Newcastle. He needs to respond after Saturday, as does lamela.I agree with you on this one (although you know I disagree with you when it comes to other youth players
THFCSPURS19
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As I've said, I think replacing Capoue just won't be the answer.
spurs9
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I don't think Capoue will be dropped anytime soon as he has, as you say, been very good but I think he lacks fight and when the chips are down, his head drops and he tends to lose some of his ability suddenly. I think Stambouli offers most of what Capoue does but also add's fight which is something we having been lacking badly at times this season.
After seeing how Mason's style of moving the ball forward (and making clever runs off the ball) has helped out attack, I don't think Poch would play Capoue and Stambouli together unless he absolutely had to.
Danny1
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I have to agree about Carroll, I dont think he is ever going to make it in a Spurs shirt. He just lacks something to me, is it aggression, pace or urgency I'm not too sure. Yes he is a very cultured player and would probably look very good in Spain or definitely in Italy, however the Premiership is a different league altogether, and against Stoke he really struggled.
Im willing to give him time though this season, however if he can't get into Swanseas team on a regular basis then he shouldnt be getting into ours.
Im willing to give him time though this season, however if he can't get into Swanseas team on a regular basis then he shouldnt be getting into ours.
The Scarecrow
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Although I share your suspicion, I think it would be foolish to let him go this early. Many of the best playmakers in the world have been late bloomers.
SpursDave88
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Examples of this would help...not that I disagree with you mind. Xavi and Pirlo were both arguably late bloomers.
BringBack_leGin
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Xavi, Pirlo's, Riquelme, Lampard, none of these guys really got into their stride until mid twenties. Big difference though is that all were first team regulars from their teens, and persisted with for years with increasing responsibility every season that passed. They became top class not just because of age and God given talent, but top level experience. Carroll is 23 and has started one premier league match.
Mason has a similar set of circumstance to Carrol, but clearly has more balls and that might just help him make the step up regardless of lost time. Carroll might have missed the boat, at least at the highest level. I hope he proves me wrong as his talent is clear.
SargeantMeatCurtains
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Tom Carroll won't make it at Spurs. He isnt anywhere close to being as good as Bentaleb or Mason. Massively overrated.
punkisback
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With Tom Carrol it's about risk taking, if he took more risks he would be a better player. I see him do it for the u21s and the passes he plays are unreal.
DaSpurs
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I don't think the problem is that he's "overrated" per se as he really does have wonderful vision and passing ability, but rather that his weaknesses are simply too fatal to make it in the Prem. His defensive awareness is just nothing short of negligent to say the very best. The goal conceded in the Schalke friendly was a textbook example of this. He allowed Boateng to run completely unmarked starting from a full 3-5 yards from outside of the box. That is just simply unacceptable play from a CM in a holding two in any top flight league, but especially the Premier League, and the problem is that it wasn't just a one-off incident.
