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Gorgeous stuff. We might win something this season with this kind of camaraderie.

If only our supporters could show the same.
I never said his position at Spurs is untenable, I mean his role as the nailed on starting #9. We can and we must find a better striker than him to achieve our club’s ambitions.

And I think he’s a great guy and I want him to succeed. Doesn’t mean he should be our starting striker this season.
 

spurmin

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I don’t think anyone is scapegoating him, most posts are hoping he comes good. He’s just very frustrating right now.
Watch the post match interview with Ange. Tells you all you need to know about his thoughts on Richarlison.
 

Bluto Blutarsky

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I don’t think anyone is scapegoating him, most posts are hoping he comes good. He’s just very frustrating right now.
What's he done wrong?

Sure the kickout today was a bit petulant. But it's not like he is missing loads of chances every game. He is working hard for the team, doing the dirty stuff - occupying CBs, chasing down balls, hold-up play. He has missed a few chances - but he keeps getting himself in good positions.

There is no reason to be frustrated when we are playing well, and getting goals from other positions.

I think people forget that if we bring in another striker - they still have to do all of the other stuff that Richi is doing already - for us to be successful as a team.

Richarlison is not holding us back.
 

arunspurs

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Aug 31, 2012
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Well, its easy to see who has taken on the mantle of SC Scapegoat.

Shame that we need to have one at all.
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I dont see any scapegoating here.
Whether few like it or not, for his own good, he has to start scoring soon. And we cannot afford to go into the PL season just with him as no9. We have to buy another forward.

Just 5 days to go
 

arunspurs

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What's he done wrong?

Sure the kickout today was a bit petulant. But it's not like he is missing loads of chances every game. He is working hard for the team, doing the dirty stuff - occupying CBs, chasing down balls, hold-up play. He has missed a few chances - but he keeps getting himself in good positions.

There is no reason to be frustrated when we are playing well, and getting goals from other positions.

I think people forget that if we bring in another striker - they still have to do all of the other stuff that Richi is doing already - for us to be successful as a team.

Richarlison is not holding us back.

Thats not the correct question.

He is ofcourse not doing anything wrong. Problem is, he is not a typical no9. Thats not his game. He played a handful of games for Brazil as no9 when he had no expectation - it worked there somehow. Now, its not working as a finisher.

Frustration for me is at the club, not Richarlison. We need a clinical striker. Its not correct to say Richarlison didnt get the chance. He did get half chances, but he isnt composed enough or has got quick foot to adjust and shoot. Most of his blocked shots are taken with power rather than precision.

Club is holding us back as it stands by giving the important role to Richy, who isnt used to the position and pressure that comes along with it.
 

spurslenny

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Nov 24, 2006
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My take on Richy...

Anyone who has played sport will know that when your confidence is low, and you're playing poorly, a level of embarrassment sets in. Once it does, it makes it even harder to play to your expected ability.

Its a horrible feeling, I think that might be the space that Richy is in at the moment, although of course, a professional athlete can never admit that.

He did some good things today, and some things not so well, but I think we have to stick with him, support him, and and while we're still getting results, pick him to start and play as many minutes as possible to find some form.

He'll come good. He's a quality player, but just in a weird place at the moment.
 

Misfit

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May 7, 2006
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Agree about his confidence. He's a much better player than he's shown this season.

I'd prefer him out wide though. Not feeling it at all with him centrally.
 

arunspurs

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Agree about his confidence. He's a much better player than he's shown this season.

I'd prefer him out wide though. Not feeling it at all with him centrally.

Agree. For me , he just lacks the important things strikers do when in the box. He is trying, but he isnt a natural for the role.

His decision making inside box isnt greatest at the moment. When he should be shooting without taking a touch, he tries to checkback and shoot later (like in Maddison through ball)....and when he should be composing & shifting the ball to the right or left and shoot, he shoots straight at defender (United game).
Sometimes, as a striker, you hang back or stop the run so to create that space for yourself. Richy needs to work on this aspect, if he has to survive in the starting XI.
 

Albertbarich

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Not bothered about the goals at all Im not even convinced that's his main purpose.

More frustrated by the poor close control and concerned at how easily he lost his head

I think he will come good just not sure that equates to leading the line all season. If we bring in competition/alternative then I think the front line will all contribute just not in a Harry Kane sort of way
 

mil1lion

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May 7, 2004
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He's in his own head too much. Clearly an emotional player who needs some goals to get going but will be down when things aren't going for him. I would start him Tuesday so we can rest Son and if he doesn't do well then bench next weekend. Son is at this time the better option for centre forward and a spell off the bench to build his confidence may be the best thing.
 

Tucker

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What's he done wrong?

Sure the kickout today was a bit petulant. But it's not like he is missing loads of chances every game. He is working hard for the team, doing the dirty stuff - occupying CBs, chasing down balls, hold-up play. He has missed a few chances - but he keeps getting himself in good positions.

There is no reason to be frustrated when we are playing well, and getting goals from other positions.

I think people forget that if we bring in another striker - they still have to do all of the other stuff that Richi is doing already - for us to be successful as a team.

Richarlison is not holding us back.
If you can’t see why people would be frustrated with Richarlison’s performances this season then I’m not sure you’re really watching the games.

Look, I like the guy, and I think he could be a very good forward for us. As I’ve already said, he works his bollocks off whenever he plays. But he missed two pretty good chances today. We could and maybe should have gone in 3 or 4 nil up at half time. In the second half I don’t think he did anything positive with or without the ball, his head went and he was rightly subbed off. He wasn’t subbed because he was playing well.

If he’s the one that’s going to be leading the line this season he needs to improve on that. That isn’t scapegoating him, and as far as I can see nobody has said he’s holding us back.
 

yido_number1

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Jun 8, 2004
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Agree about his confidence. He's a much better player than he's shown this season.

I'd prefer him out wide though. Not feeling it at all with him centrally.
I see it the same way. He's always been a wide forward in the prem and his best games in a spurs shirt have been there.

Our current problem is trying to get a direct runner to play with his back to goal when that's not his strength. He might have played there for Brazil but we're not Brazil.

Doesn't help him that he's replacing kane and I've not seen a bigger fall off in quality since berba left and Campbell came in.

We absolutely need to sign another striker at the very least to take the pressure off him but also to give us a plan b as son won't last 90 minutes every week across the two roles.
 

Misfit

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May 7, 2006
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Agree. For me , he just lacks the important things strikers do when in the box. He is trying, but he isnt a natural for the role.

His decision making inside box isnt greatest at the moment. When he should be shooting without taking a touch, he tries to checkback and shoot later (like in Maddison through ball)....and when he should be composing & shifting the ball to the right or left and shoot, he shoots straight at defender (United game).
Sometimes, as a striker, you hang back or stop the run so to create that space for yourself. Richy needs to work on this aspect, if he has to survive in the starting XI.

I see it the same way. He's always been a wide forward in the prem and his best games in a spurs shirt have been there.

Our current problem is trying to get a direct runner to play with his back to goal when that's not his strength. He might have played there for Brazil but we're not Brazil.

Doesn't help him that he's replacing kane and I've not seen a bigger fall off in quality since berba left and Campbell came in.

We absolutely need to sign another striker at the very least to take the pressure off him but also to give us a plan b as son won't last 90 minutes every week across the two roles.
Exactly. He's in no way a bad player but struggling for now. Last season might still be ringing in his ears too. That was fun for nobody but might have dented his confidence a little more than others, especially with the no-win situation of people (just generally, not on here) looking at him to fill a Kane-sized hole, so to speak (ooh er!).
 

stevensthfc

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He needs to improve.

Signing an established forward like Vlahovic would destroy the little confidence he has left and then we may as well sell him.

A younger forward like Orban to push him is probably the way to proceed, providing he can be signed for a reasonable fee.
 

Gassin's finest

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I mean... It's not like he's hiding, or moping about. He's working hard for the team, he's getting stuck in. A lot of the time that's all we ask for. I'm sure it'll click for him if he keeps plugging away. The onus with him, as ever, will be to maintain some temperance and patience.
 

VDV11 Fan

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Hope Ange persists with him for the cup game vs Fulham. He's working hard and doing a lot right just needs a bit of luck. Hopefully can play himself into form.
 

mano-obe

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Mar 2, 2005
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I never see it at Everton. I don't see it here, if anything it's worse. I've said it before he barely hit 12 goals a season at Everton. It wouldn't surprise me if he even got double figures. His control is abysmal, the ball always bounces off him, when he got taken out on the wing he was so slow it was like running in treacle.

60m quid for 1 premier league goal is poor, no matter how much we talk about effort, dressing room personality, wind up merchant etc. It's not good enough.

If he proves me wrong then I'll put my hands up and say I was wrong but I've seen this with Soldado, Vinny, Postiga, Rebrov etc. Expensive flop strikers
 
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