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Tucker

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Jul 15, 2013
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I really don't see that we replace Kane with anyone other than Richi.

We've played 2 and scored 4 goals, so I'd say what we are doing is working at the moment.
I don’t think he’s good enough to lead the line.

I find your second statement pretty naive too. We can‘t expect to achieve much if all our goals need to come from midfield and defenders. There’s no way we can keep that up consistently, it’s why strikers are so sought after, and it’s why all the top teams desperately want consistent goal scorers.

But hey, if people are happy to go back to the days when we had inconsistent forwards chipping in with 10 or 12 goals a season, then cool. But don’t moan when all we manage is Europa conference and a run to the semi-final of one of the cups.
 

Gb160

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Jun 20, 2012
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I’d argue that we need someone better than an unknown kid in Belgium. We shouldn’t be selling the best striker in the world and not replacing him with someone of quality.
100% this. Even if Richy gets firing we're 1 injury away from not having a recognised striker (with any real level of experience) and signing an unknown kid doesn't change this.
 

Scot-Spur

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I don’t think he’s good enough to lead the line.

I find your second statement pretty naive too. We can‘t expect to achieve much if all our goals need to come from midfield and defenders. There’s no way we can keep that up consistently, it’s why strikers are so sought after, and it’s why all the top teams desperately want consistent goal scorers.

But hey, if people are happy to go back to the days when we had inconsistent forwards chipping in with 10 or 12 goals a season, then cool. But don’t moan when all we manage is Europa conference and a run to the semi-final of one of the cups.
This, I’m not even sure Richy is beat up top. He actually has a better record for goal involvements when playing LW.

I personally don’t think he is what we need, he doesn’t look sharp in the box. Always a yard away from it.

He has plenty good attributes but not sure he is suited to be our CF.

Also I don’t think I have seen anyone compare him to Kane. Some people are merely voice an option that they/we don’t think he is a right fit. Nobody that I have seen is completely slating him.
 

muppetman

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Jul 29, 2011
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I don’t think he’s good enough to lead the line.

I find your second statement pretty naive too. We can‘t expect to achieve much if all our goals need to come from midfield and defenders. There’s no way we can keep that up consistently, it’s why strikers are so sought after, and it’s why all the top teams desperately want consistent goal scorers.

But hey, if people are happy to go back to the days when we had inconsistent forwards chipping in with 10 or 12 goals a season, then cool. But don’t moan when all we manage is Europa conference and a run to the semi-final of one of the cups.
Fair enough, onions and all that.

The point I was making (badly as per), is that I think it's too soon to say if Richi is a busted flush. The forward line isn't really working as well as I'm assuming Ange wants, and yet we've still managed to score 4.

This season is a reset and rebuild one, which people mostly agreed with, but now expectations have risen and at different points, with different posters I've heard we need to upgrade and replace Son, Kulu and Richi. We aren't Chelsea and I just don't see this happening.

At the moment, I think that Son, Kulu and Richi are better players than they are currently showing and we need to let Ange have time to crack on.
 

Mr Pink

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I think he'll come good with the goals.

Not proflic, but enough all round contribution to hold down the forward role.
 

easley91

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This will be the first run for him as the number 9 in a new system for the club. Maddison has only just joined and Son has lost his telepathic partner in Kane. It's going to take time for it to get there with the timing of runs and movement between those three and Kulu.

Thing is even without the goals he works hard and in the second half on Saturday I felt his hold/link up play was good.
 

SirHarryHotspur

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If you go to first half highlights , Deki's first goal attempt which was easily saved, Richy had found a bit of space between the two central defenders a decent cross in and he could have had a chance of a header , think he was quite annoyed that Deki had a go at goal.

Apart from Berbatov our record of bringing in proven goalscorers from European leagues is not that good, Pav, Rebrov, Soldado, Janssen , maybe we might have better luck with the Argentinian League.
 

Tucker

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Jul 15, 2013
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I think he'll come good with the goals.

Not proflic, but enough all round contribution to hold down the forward role.
I hope so. I don’t want to be too down on him, because I actually quite like him, I like how he winds opponents up, and how he’s a character on the pitch and off it. But I’m not seeing enough from him at the moment.
 

RuskyM

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Just think getting in a Kane replacement to be purely a Kane replacement is a folly. He won’t be as good, why bother?

I’m all ears to any suggestions of top strikers (christ it’s like 2011 again) but until one becomes viable, it’s best going about this differently.

What’s Giuseppe Rossi doing these days?
 

SandroClegane

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But hey, if people are happy to go back to the days when we had inconsistent forwards chipping in with 10 or 12 goals a season, then cool. But don’t moan when all we manage is Europa conference and a run to the semi-final of one of the cups.
Arsenal finished second last year with their top scorer (and number 9) chipping in with 12 goals. Having a balanced team with multiple scoring options isn't a negative.
 

Timberwolf

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Arsenal finished second last year with their top scorer (and number 9) chipping in with 12 goals. Having a balanced team with multiple scoring options isn't a negative.
Jesus wasn't their top scorer.

Saka scored 14, while Martinelli and Odegaard scored 15.

Your point stands, though - provided your other attackers score enough you don't necessarily need a number 9 scoring shitloads every season to do well.

Unfortunately I seriously struggle to see Kulu and Son getting anywhere near 15 goals on current form so we're gonna need goals from Rich and/or other forward options.
 

Trix

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I think he'll come good with the goals.

Not proflic, but enough all round contribution to hold down the forward role.
I don't think he's good enough on the ball in tight area's, and he doesn't look after the ball well enough to be optimal in this possession based system.
 

Mr Pink

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Aug 25, 2010
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I don't think he's good enough on the ball in tight area's, and he doesn't look after the ball well enough to be optimal in this possession based system.

I'm not totally convinced either but I'm hoping he can improve and do the job
 

soflapaul

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I think he'll come good with the goals.

Not proflic, but enough all round contribution to hold down the forward role.
He probably will but the question is whether it is enough. His value won't be creating goals on his own. It will be harassing defenders, stretching the defense and picking up loose balls in the box/rebounds . He's the kind of guy that scores ugly goals. Not sure that is enough in this system. Hope it is and he proves it as i love the guy. While h may be overthinking it at the moment but in the cold light of day, even if he calms down, it isn't clear that he'll come good enough. I thought he would for the longest time but he's been easier to defend in open space and we need more shots on target for him to get those scrappy goals.
 

spursfan77

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SC - we'll need to be patient while Ange implements his new style of play.
SC - this striker is shit, get rid and bring in some unknown kid from Belgium.

Never change SC.

It's possible to both want to give him a chance to see what he can do and also want to buy a striker to give him competition (a proper experienced one).
 

brasil_spur

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Aug 25, 2006
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It's possible to both want to give him a chance to see what he can do and also want to buy a striker to give him competition (a proper experienced one).
This.

Plus I think his pressing gives us something at LW that Son doesn't, so even if the new striker we sign ends up taking first spot then we can still use him as rotation for CF and LW and he'll then get game time.
 

ComfortablyNumb

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Jun 28, 2011
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I don't think he's good enough on the ball in tight area's, and he doesn't look after the ball well enough to be optimal in this possession based system.
I don't think he'd be any better centrally, all 3 of our front line are sub-optimal, but I can't see us selling Son and Kane in the same window!
 

SG7

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I really don't see that we replace Kane with anyone other than Richi.

We've played 2 and scored 4 goals, so I'd say what we are doing is working at the moment.
It's not...

We started well last season under Conte too, and under Nuno, and under Mourinho, and under Villas-Boas the season following the sale of Bale.

Can't just look at a couple of scoresheets and conclude everything is working well. The front three is clearly not working right now, and there will definitely be frustrating games if things continue the way they are. We absolutely need an alternative striker at an absolute minimum.
 

Ron Burgundy

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Jun 19, 2008
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Had a 1 in 3 record at Everton and 1 in 2 at international - he's not allergic to goals, his record with us looks much worse given how in-and-out he was - but his work rate is staggering, and that's why Ange is going to persist with him.

I don't think it's a case of signing another #9 to rotate; rather a wide forward that can benefit from his relentlessness.
Good post. Totally agree.
 
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