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Player Watch: Moussa Sissoko

carpediem991

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May 31, 2011
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Still find it odd that Moussa is appreciated by those in the game but not by many fans.


I'm going to defend Moussa regardless of general opinion,

Wanyama shooting accuracy 24% https://www.premierleague.com/players/4816/Victor-Wanyama/stats

Moussa 32% https://www.premierleague.com/players/4549/Moussa-Sissoko/stats

Random stats that say absolutely nothing. If you don't threaten the keeper with your shots the shooting accuracy means fck all.
In addition as Wanyama played deeper and probably had more efforts outside the box and more difficult efforts as he sometimes actually considered to shoot.
And the shooting accuracy must be about the least important stat as a defensive mid.

Watch games, not stats.
 

DiVaio

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May 27, 2020
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Still find it odd that Moussa is appreciated by those in the game but not by many fans.


I'm going to defend Moussa regardless of general opinion,

Wanyama shooting accuracy 24% https://www.premierleague.com/players/4816/Victor-Wanyama/stats

Moussa 32% https://www.premierleague.com/players/4549/Moussa-Sissoko/stats
It was award for his 18/19 season when he was good, and... we didn't have other midfield options and had other manager. Now we have Tanguy,Gio, and Pierre who are better than Sissoko.
 

SirHarryHotspur

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It was award for his 18/19 season when he was good, and... we didn't have other midfield options and had other manager. Now we have Tanguy,Gio, and Pierre who are better than Sissoko.

True but Tanguy and Gio are not going to play a deep defensive role which is how Jose chooses to use Moussa , Moussa's average position when alongside PEH is deeper with just the two centre backs behind, that's the role Jose has chosen to play, apart from free kicks/corners he gets nowhere near the opposition penalty area.
Unless Jose is going go for an all out attacking formation which is against his instincts I think the PEH / Moussa partnership will be chosen in many games.
 

SirHarryHotspur

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Random stats that say absolutely nothing. If you don't threaten the keeper with your shots the shooting accuracy means fck all.
In addition as Wanyama played deeper and probably had more efforts outside the box and more difficult efforts as he sometimes actually considered to shoot.
And the shooting accuracy must be about the least important stat as a defensive mid.

Watch games, not stats.

I am watching and Moussa has the deepest role of all the midfield players when he plays with PEH, that's his job under Jose , no licence to get forward.
 

Everlasting Seconds

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Jan 9, 2014
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Still find it odd that Moussa is appreciated by those in the game but not by many fans.


I'm going to defend Moussa regardless of general opinion,

Wanyama shooting accuracy 24% https://www.premierleague.com/players/4816/Victor-Wanyama/stats

Moussa 32% https://www.premierleague.com/players/4549/Moussa-Sissoko/stats
:)
A marginally more accurate shooter than Wanyama. That’s what I call redeemed.
 

EireYid

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One thing Sissoko is good at winning the ball back in defensive areas but he's equally as good at giving it straight back to the opposition.
 

spursfan77

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It actually encapsulates him quite well and why he shouldn’t be playing central midfield for a team with our aspirations. Poor first touch, can’t control the ball, especially when under pressure, keeps his head down or see a pass as he doesn’t have the ball under control etc.

All aspects the modern day central midfielder needs as a minimum to be successful.
 

Spurs 1961

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I am watching and Moussa has the deepest role of all the midfield players when he plays with PEH, that's his job under Jose , no licence to get forward.

Moussa is good in the middle third of the pitch but a liability elsewhere. JM knows this and if you want someone in that role then Moussa is a decent shout.
 

Neon_Knight_

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Jul 20, 2011
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Random stats that say absolutely nothing. If you don't threaten the keeper with your shots the shooting accuracy means fck all.
In addition as Wanyama played deeper and probably had more efforts outside the box and more difficult efforts as he sometimes actually considered to shoot.
And the shooting accuracy must be about the least important stat as a defensive mid.

Watch games, not stats.
Exactly!

Sissoko plays a similar role to Dembele and numerous other very good CMs throughout the top leagues, where they contribute a lot in the centre of the pitch (esp. transition when lose/regain possession), so shooting / scoring is fairly irrelevant. Goals would be a nice added bonus, but are not part of the role - that's what the four attacking players ahead of them are for.
Expectations of a CM were very different in the days of 4-4-2, compared to 4-2-3-1. The wide midfielders started deeper and had more responsibility for supporting the fullbacks defensively, compared to modern wingers / wide forwards, and the fullbacks were less offensive (so didn't need to be covered so much). In our current system, the two CMs have to cover the fullbacks every time they bomb forwards, but by playing deeper allow the rest of the team to be more offensive. Had Sissoko played in the 4-4-2 era, I'm sure he would have been the more defensive of a CM two.
Imagine how many times we'd get caught out at the back if our CMs didn't cover behind our fullbacks - or how lacking our offence would be if both fullbacks sat back. Imagine how playing at RM/LM would limit the attacking output of a player like Son (although he probably would have played as a second striker in a past era). I think I'd rather stick with a CM who doesn't score ;)
 
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