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Player Watch: Moussa Sissoko

John48

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Strangely at least one paper gave Sissoko a better mark than Hojbjerg which I don't understand.

Sissoko gives 100% on the pitch, but his footballing ability is questionable especially in the attacking 3rd.
 

BringBack_leGin

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I’m convinced that he’s no longer able to accelerate to top speed, which is understandable his side of thirty, and therefore has lost his Martin on the ball weapon which was being able to bulldozer when we were in transition. He also did knee ligaments this year did he not? That late on in his career it may we’ll have affected his athleticism, and without the natural skill/ ability to adapt his game that can be very blunting.

I’m off the option that start from activities of pure brute strength or height, Lo Celso can offer everything Sissoko can off the ball and clearly immeasurably more quality on it, so whether as a pivot with Højbjerg behind Ndombele, or as a three with the two of them, I really hope he’s not far of returning to being a starter.
 

JCRD

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What? That’s exactly what Hojbjerg does. Against a team like West Brom you don’t need 2 players to do that.

Yes and no.

Yes he does that but you also need someone else... Didn't jose recently say that GLC isn't doing that well defensively, GLC will be that second person to do that dirty work... We need two and not just one. Ndombele will also contribute but GLC and PEH will both do the majority

To anyone who disliked my initial post, let's meet :)
 

dtxspurs

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Yes and no.

Yes he does that but you also need someone else... Didn't jose recently say that GLC isn't doing that well defensively, GLC will be that second person to do that dirty work... We need two and not just one. Ndombele will also contribute but GLC and PEH will both do the majority

To anyone who disliked my initial post, let's meet
What?
 

DiVaio

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Yes and no.

Yes he does that but you also need someone else... Didn't jose recently say that GLC isn't doing that well defensively, GLC will be that second person to do that dirty work... We need two and not just one. Ndombele will also contribute but GLC and PEH will both do the majority

To anyone who disliked my initial post, let's meet :)
Jose said GLC isn't doing that well defensively just because he isn't 100% fit. Fit Lo Celso is making much more succesful pressures, more tackles and only slighly less interceptions (0.12 per 90) than Sissoko.
 

Nayim60yards

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What? That’s exactly what Hojbjerg does. Against a team like West Brom you don’t need 2 players to do that.
Agreed, as was proven when we took him off and brought Vinicius on. Sissoko is at his most useful against the bigger boys to stop them breaking on us, when we have the ball we need ballers on the pitch.
 

JCRD

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Jose said GLC isn't doing that well defensively just because he isn't 100% fit. Fit Lo Celso is making much more succesful pressures, more tackles and only slighly less interceptions (0.12 per 90) than Sissoko.

But thats the point and the point why Sissoko has to play for now. GLC is a better player we all know that but right now Jose isnt trusting him to play that role due to fitness...

I totally agree that Sissoko isnt first choice but he has benefits and merits that we shouldnt dismiss... and trust me this is from someone who for two years slated the hell out of.
 

SirHarryHotspur

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Moussa is good at somethings, go to filter by club Spurs on the list and Moussa is number one.


Moussa has no licence at all to get forward under Jose in his present role, he is purely defensive , in virtually every game he has played looking at average positions the only two players playing deeper than Moussa are the two centre backs. Yesterday we needed to gamble at the end so Jose took him off and went for attacking players and it worked. Fully expect same pairing PEH & Moussa against Man City.
 
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DJS

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Yes and no.

Yes he does that but you also need someone else... Didn't jose recently say that GLC isn't doing that well defensively, GLC will be that second person to do that dirty work... We need two and not just one. Ndombele will also contribute but GLC and PEH will both do the majority

To anyone who disliked my initial post, let's meet :)

Why?

Are you gonna beat them up?
 

Duck

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It's not all about pressure and workrate... It's about positional nous.

Lo Celso likes to roam forward and is quite effective in the final third. Sissiko's role entails correct defensive positioning for most of the game, something 7 years of experience in the EPL and International football goes a long way in helping.

I don't think Lo Celso should be playing Sissoko's role at all. We'd be bottlenecking his ability.
 

BringBack_leGin

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It's not all about pressure and workrate... It's about positional nous.

Lo Celso likes to roam forward and is quite effective in the final third. Sissiko's role entails correct defensive positioning for most of the game, something 7 years of experience in the EPL and International football goes a long way in helping.

I don't think Lo Celso should be playing Sissoko's role at all. We'd be bottlenecking his ability.
Disagree. Most of Lo Celso’s best work not just for us, but throughout his career, has been his ability to transition play from deep and knit play together. One anomalous season at Betis where everything went through him due to a lack of quality in the side had made people think he’s this final third playmaker, it just isn’t his game. It’s not that he can’t do it, of course he can, he’sa very talented footballers, but he’s far more effective playing a role that utilises an all round skillet.
 

Duck

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Disagree. Most of Lo Celso’s best work not just for us, but throughout his career, has been his ability to transition play from deep and knit play together. One anomalous season at Betis where everything went through him due to a lack of quality in the side had made people think he’s this final third playmaker, it just isn’t his game. It’s not that he can’t do it, of course he can, he’sa very talented footballers, but he’s far more effective playing a role that utilises an all round skillet.
You say that, yet he's roaming up forward more than ever this year. Look at his positioning in all of his Europa goals this year. Could've easily scored against West Brom too, again, positioned very close to goal.

It's also worth noting that last season during our undefeated run to finish the season, we played both Sissoko and Winks every game as our deep, central pairing. Pretty sure Mourinho does not want to deploy Lo Celso in a role that requires constant defensive positioning.
 

DJS

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Games are won and lost in that central midfield area. It’s where we’ve always struggled aside from Dembele in his prime and that glorious season where Wanyama wasn't broken (still cannot believe after Sandro it happened again).

Aside from Hojberg we don’t have a decent engine room player (with Skipp on loan).

Winks just can’t seem to get his form back and Sissoko is bang average and his passing is atrocious.

We need at least one more tough bastard with a physical presence to play in there who can also actually pass.
 

nferno

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I don’t keep up with other leagues like I used to, so I wonder who there is out there that can do what sissoko does off the ball and can also, at the very least, consistently trap a football and play simple short passes into space?
 

punkisback

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I don’t keep up with other leagues like I used to, so I wonder who there is out there that can do what sissoko does off the ball and can also, at the very least, consistently trap a football and play simple short passes into space?
Honestly all you need to do is look in the championship.
 

GLC10

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The last game against Manchester City, which we won very well 2-0. We played with Winks 6, Gio 8, Alli 10. I don't see why Sissoko is so fundamental. Gio of 8 and Tanguy of 10 would be a show.
 

wrd

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The last game against Manchester City, which we won very well 2-0. We played with Winks 6, Gio 8, Alli 10. I don't see why Sissoko is so fundamental. Gio of 8 and Tanguy of 10 would be a show.

Problem is that Winks and Dele are in a bit of a transitional phase because their previous roles aren't really needed at the moment and they haven't proven they can take on what is being asked of them as of yet.
 

McFlash

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He's probably not the best footballer but I do think Sissoko gets some unwarranted grief on here.
He's still judged for the fact we paid 30m for him, back when it was a decent amount of wedge, and because he wasn't who a lot of us wanted.
He's actually a bloody good squad player and in our current situation, that's exactly what he's being.
Yes, he has his weaknesses but his strengths are often overlooked, or just plain ignored.
He keeps getting picked for his country too.
 
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