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McFlash

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How is selling Lo Celso in January, at the expense of CL qualification, going to put us in a better position for next season?

Finishing in a CL spot would help us to attract a higher calibre of player next summer, which would leave us stronger for next season compared to not qualifying for CL. It would also boost our revenue for the 24-25 season by more than Lo Celso's transfer value + wages combined, so qualifying for the CL and having Lo Celso (or any other one player) rotting in the reserves would be better than selling him in January and missing out on CL.

This is even ignoring that Lo Celso had played pretty well for us recently and has demonstrated that he fits our system.
I'm not advocating selling him in Jan, just saying that if we get a half decent offer for any fringe player (and he's certainly that), then we have to seriously consider it.
It's not as simple as selling Lo Celso now will mean we miss our on top four, nowhere near that.
Do you honestly think that he's the player that will make the difference for us this season?

I'm kind of playing devil's advocate a bit here but I've spent the last four years reading so many people who don't think he's good enough for us, to now reading that he could be the reason we get CL football this season?!

I like Gio but I'm just not sure his future lies with us.
Also, the needing to have CL to get a better quality of player is just not true and there are so many examples of that.
How many top players did we sign when we were CL regulars?
 

Neon_Knight_

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I'm not advocating selling him in Jan, just saying that if we get a half decent offer for any fringe player (and he's certainly that), then we have to seriously consider it.
It's not as simple as selling Lo Celso now will mean we miss our on top four, nowhere near that.
Do you honestly think that he's the player that will make the difference for us this season?

I'm kind of playing devil's advocate a bit here but I've spent the last four years reading so many people who don't think he's good enough for us, to now reading that he could be the reason we get CL football this season?!

I like Gio but I'm just not sure his future lies with us.
Also, the needing to have CL to get a better quality of player is just not true and there are so many examples of that.
How many top players did we sign when we were CL regulars?
When we have multiple absences (as we currently have / recently had, and will certainly have in Jan-Feb), any half-decent CM could be the difference. 1 point could be the difference between CL qualification or not. Lo Celso has just contributed 2 goals in his last 5 games. He would have been a much better option than Skipp when Johnson went off injured (had he not been injured himself).
 

djhotspur

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Sarr covers so much ground so I would keep him as an 8. Gio just needs to keep the ball moving.
Gio started life as a 6. He only moved to a 10 at betis. He was a 6 at psg so he could play it. As you say his skill is breaking the lines and being press resistant and keeping the ball moving so he could definitely play there
 

carpediem1906

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Showed his ability to capitalise on tiring opponents when he came on, should be a default 70/75th min sub

Some classy play there
 

idontgetit

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Thought he was excellent, one of the best players on the pitch when he came on today. Really helpful cameo when the team needed some energy.
 

Japhet

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Would take a really big offer to consider letting him go and Barca are potless. I really hope we keep him after the way he's taken to Ange's style.
 

spursville

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Good player but a bit one footed and lightweight without much power when striking or a passing a ball. I say consult the medical department. If his body is up to the style of play then maybe keep as a squad player. If his body is going to keep breaking down then get rid.
 

talbot64

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Conundrum with him, do we

1. offer a new deal potentially blocking the route for Donley/Devine
2. Keep him and let his contract expire end of next season giving more time for those replacements to mature
3. Sell him in the summer when we can still get some money

I favour 2 but Levy will be about protecting the financials which makes 1 or 3 more likely
 

Ghost Hardware

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Conundrum with him, do we

1. offer a new deal potentially blocking the route for Donley/Devine
2. Keep him and let his contract expire end of next season giving more time for those replacements to mature
3. Sell him in the summer when we can still get some money

I favour 2 but Levy will be about protecting the financials which makes 1 or 3 more likely
I don’t think it’s much of a conundrum tbh. Not that you suggested it but In general selling him in Jan is not an option, no club can afford him anyway and he knows + works in the system. We also aren’t in a position to be loosing CM’s who actually offer something. So we keep him and if he continues to impress and be an asset to the club then we extend his contract in the summer. If not we sell him then. I don’t think there is any other option tbh.

Ultimately if he’s good enough, which currently he most certainly is, then he deserves to be part of the squad going forward. We shouldn’t be keeping any players beyond next summer who don’t have long term futures here. It’s just a question of if his form dips significantly, he decides he wants to leave or if he keeps getting injured (which is probably the biggest concern). I’d say by summer we will have a pretty good idea if he has a place in the squad or not but at the moment the signs are very positive imo.
 

joey55

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He's an Argentinian international, who is wanted by Barca and when he players for us, he plays like an Argentinian international who Barca would want to sign. I can only think it's either injury concerns or that he's expressed a desire to move on if the right offer comes, that are preventing Ange from making him a key member of our first team. Personally, I think he's a better player than Enzo or MacAllister. Bu the injury issue is a real concern. He's got Lamela vibes in that respect. So it's a real tough one, but I think even his doubters (and I don't think they were wrong to doubt him btw), probably now see that he's top class player and can easily do it in the Prem.
 

whenstevewentup

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Nice cameo from him yesterday , was able to collect the ball and move us forward . The guy is far too injury prone to risk another long term contract , there’s definitely a player In there but he can’t be relied on so I would sell if we get a half decent offer .
 
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