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djhotspur

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Gallagher was playing in a much deeper role yesterday. But still held himself well.

My issue with GLC isn't his quality, it's his passion and energy. Gallagher shows plenty of that and imo, has a higher ceiling than GLC. Gallagher also possess a lot of quality too.

But I guess a couple goals in pre season has completely changed fans opinion of GLC. Fickle.

There was a reason Ange brought Sarr on instead of GLC yesterday.
Not sure I agree he has a higher ceiling. Conor has not got the technique and creativity Gio has at all. Yeah he scored a few goals for palace but I’m beginning to think that was an outlier. He’s another hard working average English player.
i have to go to watch all chelsea home games with work and have seen him countless times. He is not a player I would buy at all.
Conor is hardly some young developing talent either. If he was 20 I could understand but he’s 23.
 

Ron Burgundy

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We’re fine in midfield aren’t we?

Bissouma
Skipp
Sarr
Bentancur
PEH (could be replaced if he goes, maybe)

…for centre mid

Maddison and Gio at 8

That depth and quality is not replicated in attack or CB

We need those sooner than Gallagher, and Gio should get a chance to continue his pre season form
 

rabbikeane

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I think we have the depth we need in midfield. Ange doesn't seem to regard Skipp as a reliable 6 though, play him as an 8. So Højbjerg is the backup 6 and would need replacing if he leaves, and if Lo Celso leave we definitely need a creative 8.
 

KILLA_SIN

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Gallagher was playing in a much deeper role yesterday. But still held himself well.

My issue with GLC isn't his quality, it's his passion and energy. Gallagher shows plenty of that and imo, has a higher ceiling than GLC. Gallagher also possess a lot of quality too.

But I guess a couple goals in pre season has completely changed fans opinion of GLC. Fickle.

There was a reason Ange brought Sarr on instead of GLC yesterday.
Better off selling skipp if we're getting CG. It doesnt matter anyway we're not getting CG
 

DannyNZ

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Not sure I agree he has a higher ceiling. Conor has not got the technique and creativity Gio has at all. Yeah he scored a few goals for palace but I’m beginning to think that was an outlier. He’s another hard working average English player.
i have to go to watch all chelsea home games with work and have seen him countless times. He is not a player I would buy at all.
Conor is hardly some young developing talent either. If he was 20 I could understand but he’s 23.
Gallagher doesn’t make the Argentina squad, Gio nailed on starter think it’s clear who has the higher ceiling.
 

Ghost Hardware

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Gallagher doesn’t make the Argentina squad, Gio nailed on starter think it’s clear who has the higher ceiling.
I don’t get the love for Glallagher at all tbh. He’s a decent player but if he wasn’t HG I don’t think anyone would particularly want him. There is just better talent out there especially for the price he would cost. If hypothetically we wanted a deeper player to compete with Biss than we should go for Federico Redondo and if we wanted more a hard working CM/AM then Gabri Veiga is the guy. These guys are big talents. Both have significantly more potential than Gallagher imo.
 
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Nick-TopSpursMan

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I honestly wouldn't touch the midfield area at all this summer but if Hojbjerg does go I'd just get a young DM talent like Federico Redondo in as cover for Bissouma.

I certainly wouldn't be selling Gio and bringing in Gallagher.

For me the most obvious area of the team that now needs strengthening is ironically the front 3 (used to be our strength), it just doesn't function correctly because we have too many players who don't fit the profile.

We obviously need to sign another CB but just as important imo is that we sign a top quality wide player (or 2 if we move Son central imo).
 

Tucker

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I don’t get the love for Glallagher at all tbh. He’s a decent player but if he wasn’t HG I don’t think anyone would particularly want him. There is just better talent out there especially for the price he would cost. If hypothetically we wanted a deeper player to compete with with Biss than we should go for Federico Redondo and if we wanted more a hard working CM/AM then Gabri Veiga is the guy. These guys are big talents. Both have significantly more potential than Gallagher imo.
While I agree, the home grown element isn’t an insignificant consideration. We have to balance the home grown element of the squad somewhere.
 

Ghost Hardware

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While I agree, the home grown element isn’t an insignificant consideration. We have to balance the home grown element of the squad somewhere.
I’m not saying we should ignore HG, I’m just saying we shouldn’t over pay for HG players that aren’t particularly special when there are better cheaper options out there. We also have the luxury of no Europe this year so it’s not such a priority. If we are looking to bring in the likes of Eze next summer say we can alway look to equal out the squad more next year. I get it’s a balance of course but for me spending large fees on the likes of Gallagher or Johnson just doesn’t make sense to me as I don’t think they improve our squad enough. We also have to remember we have Devine who’s 19 sat there, yes he needs a loan most likely but he looks a talent and we shouldn’t ignore the players we Already have.
 

SpartanSpur

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With Ange seemingly seeing GLC as competition for Maddison, we may as well get Eze with the money if he goes. He can play 8/10 and wide.

I'd rather keep GLC if possible though, as long as he's happy to stay. Nice skill set.

Sell Hojbjerg to Atleti it you want a 6 or 8.
 

Japhet

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I'd keep GLC. He's perfect for Ange's style. He seems a lot happier here now that we have a manager who actually wants to play football. I don't get the attraction of Gallagher personally and would rate Eze way, way higher, but I don't think we'd pay up what CP would demand. Once Bentancur is back we are stacked in midfield anyway.
 

Ghost Hardware

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I'd keep GLC. He's perfect for Ange's style. He seems a lot happier here now that we have a manager who actually wants to play football. I don't get the attraction of Gallagher personally and would rate Eze way, way higher, but I don't think we'd pay up what CP would demand. Once Bentancur is back we are stacked in midfield anyway.
I agree with you. The one thing I would say is that i really don’t think we should expect Bentancur to play any major role this season. It will very likely take him the whole season to get back up to speed and he will probably pick up a lot of minor muscle injuries along the way. Even when he does play he will probably look off it massively as well. Unfortunately we won’t really see what our midfield can really do until next season I’d think.

But on the flip side I’m really wondering if we need to start thinking about moving Kulu inside. I don’t want to judge too much off one PL game and a few pre season games but I’m not convinced he’s a WF in this system. I think he’d much better suit a central roll.

Fact is priority has to be a CD, CF and a WF and if we decide to shift Gil, which is unlikely due to his injury, then 2 WF. Even if we sell PEH (which I still think we should as now is the time to clear the decks) I’m not entirely sure we should get another CM/DM. Maybe but not if it means we have to compromise further up the pitch. Tbh if we were going to splash cash on one position (as long as we got the others also) it would be a WF for me. We won’t because we rarely do but just hypothetically. As for Eze, for me he just doesn’t make sense this summer, price wise and profile wise. Next summer yes, not now. We need natural wide forwards.
 
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Japhet

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I agree with you. The one thing I would say is that i really don’t think we should expect Bentancur to play any major role this season. It will very likely take him the whole season to get back up to speed and he will probably pick up a lot of minor muscle injuries along the way. Even when he does play he will probably look off it massively as well. Unfortunately we won’t really see what our midfield can really do until next season I’d think.

But on the flip side I’m really wondering if we need to start thinking about moving Kulu inside. I don’t want to judge too much off one PL game and a few pre season games but I’m not convinced he’s a WF in this system. I think he’d much better suit a central roll.

Fact is priority has to be a CD, CF and a WF and if we decide to shift Gil, which is unlikely due to his injury, then 2 WF. Even if we sell PEH (which I still think we should as now is the time to clear the decks) I’m not entirely sure we should get another CM/DM. Maybe but not if it means we have to compromise further up the pitch. Tbh if we were going to splash cash on one position (as long as we got the others also) it would be a WF for me. We won’t become we rarely do but just hypothetically. As for Eze, for me he just doesn’t make sense this summer, price wise and profile wise. Next summer yes, not now. We need natural wide forwards.


Kulu moving inside makes sense, if only as an experiment because he's not doing it out wide. I also think Porro will most likely get minutes at RW rather than RB. He could be quite a handful out there.
 

FibreOpticJesus

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I agree with you. The one thing I would say is that i really don’t think we should expect Bentancur to play any major role this season. It will very likely take him the whole season to get back up to speed and he will probably pick up a lot of minor muscle injuries along the way. Even when he does play he will probably look off it massively as well. Unfortunately we won’t really see what our midfield can really do until next season I’d think.

But on the flip side I’m really wondering if we need to start thinking about moving Kulu inside. I don’t want to judge too much off one PL game and a few pre season games but I’m not convinced he’s a WF in this system. I think he’d much better suit a central roll.

Fact is priority has to be a CD, CF and a WF and if we decide to shift Gil, which is unlikely due to his injury, then 2 WF. Even if we sell PEH (which I still think we should as now is the time to clear the decks) I’m not entirely sure we should get another CM/DM. Maybe but not if it means we have to compromise further up the pitch. Tbh if we were going to splash cash on one position (as long as we got the others also) it would be a WF for me. We won’t become we rarely do but just hypothetically. As for Eze, for me he just doesn’t make sense this summer, price wise and profile wise. Next summer yes, not now. We need natural wide forwards.
I also think we need a RB to cover for Royale. Porro is not a good enough defender for the role.
 

What Lies Beneath

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After Buendia's injury, Villa tried to again to bring in GIO, but their efforts were rebuffed. GIO's potential transfer from Tottenham hinges on a promising offer, as there's a demand for his skills right now from several clubs. Nevertheless, Ange is intent on retaining him.

My feeling is he stays.

WLB
 

Ghost Hardware

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I also think we need a RB to cover for Royale. Porro is not a good enough defender for the role.
Porro is certainly a big concern but I think considering the amount we only just invested into him we need to give him and Ange time to see if he can adapt. It was never going to happen overnight with him imo. He’s not technically strong enough to be a WF in our system imo so he’s a bit of a ? At the moment. Shame that Spence also isn’t great defensively and supposedly had attitude issues as a HG young FB would be very helpful.
 
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