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Player Watch: Emerson Royal

BorjeSpurs

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That was more on Dier.

Højbjerg had the ball, the two attackers at the bottom were covered by Davies and Lenglet. At this point, Dier has to pick up the man running through the middle. Our RWB is never going to get goal-side of the player running in the middle of the pitch.

The pass was made, player gets past Dier - and then beats Lloris near post.

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Dier might be slightly more in the wrong here but Emerson should definitely share the blame.

Emerson is in a good position further down compared to Summerville but then he stops hoping Hojbjerg will intercept while his opponent continues his run. That is the difference between him covering the space and not.

Hojbjerg tries to jump in front of Aaronson but is never in control of the ball, also, Emerson stops when the ball is loose. Very poor defensive awareness for a player who’s strength are supposedly in his own half.
 

G Ron

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Not good enough as called by many of us very early on in his tenure. I feel for him in the treatment he’s had drom out so called “fans” but he should not be in the firing line as he’s a championship player at best. Can’t defend, can’t attack, offers nothing. Needs to go along with Lloris, Dier, Davies, Sess and Doherty.
 

G Ron

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The fans don’t like him, but as many have said already, Conte keeps selecting him, which shows just how bad we are in this position. Upgrade incoming in January.

I’ve never been a fan, but the crowd reaction is definitely not helpful.
 

ravo

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Nah mate. That was Dier’s man. He was the RCB, but was playing like the CCB.

The RWB is never getting goal side of a forward running down the middle of the field. The wingback is supposed to be out wide by design, not covering a player running in the middle of the pitch.

ETA - Royal never stopped running back and was never goal side of the player. Dier, as the RCB, has to cover that runner in that instance. Dier allowed the runner past him - and Lloris should have covered the near post.
Agree. This is half the problem, we talk about 3-4-3, when in reality it's 5-2-3. Our wingbacks get dragged so deep. Kudos to Emerson for covering the ground he does (don't get me wrong, he's nowhere near good enough - but at least he tries, you can't blame him for that). Dier has been so bad lately it's laughable.

What I really hate seeing is when the other team has the ball 25-30 yards out and has time to move it from side to side, mainly due to the fact that we have a flat back 5 on the 18 yard line in defence, with only the 2 midfielders trying to deal with 5 of their players (3 mids and 2 FBs).
 

Yantino

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Yep. I admire his effort and enthusiasm but quite simply he’s not of the required standard. Those wing backs positions are key in Conte’s system so the player has to be top drawer and Royal just isn’t. Nor is Sess.
 
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Gbspurs

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The biggest issue isn't whether we think he is good enough or not, it's that every team we play knows he isn't so they target his side when attacking and over mark our left hand side when defending because they know he isn't capable of doing anything.
 
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easley91

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Why you pay all that money to just go and abuse someone is beyond me? He isn't the only one who has made mistakes this season and yet he gets the worst treatment from "fans"?

At least he actually cares unlike certain other players we have had previously. He doesn't hide and keeps trying. Could he be better? Sure. But the unnecessary abuse is too much.

I'm sure you're all for mental health and how it matters right? Well stop booing the lad and giving him **** from prior to kick off and any time he is on the ball.

Would love him to come back in December and show people up, but I think it's best he leaves just for his own sake to get away from this toxic fanbase.
 

chrisd2k

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Of course it's wrong from the fans, but playing devils advocate they don't have another way to voice their concerns. It's way too much though, I was embarrassed when he got taken off. I think Bentancurs goal celebration was a reflection of that? The hand over mouth to our own fans. Maybe not sure.

Back to the player. Opposition teams are now leaving him space, it's really apparent. Although that will probably change with Deki being back.

I kind of feel that it's part of the managers job to protect players from not only the abuse but themselves. He's not playing well, the fans are fed up of seeing him mess opportunities up, play Doc or Spence once in a while. That third equaliser came from a good cross from Doc, it just wouldn't have happened with him on the pitch.

He seems like a genuine good fella. It's a bad situation and you don't want fans to dictate lineups of course but managers all over the world do this when they feel the crowd turning, it's not just a Spurs thing.

Its gone far to far now though and does kind of make you feel ashamed being a Spurs fan sometimes.
 

Hotspur33

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Agree. This is half the problem, we talk about 3-4-3, when in reality it's 5-2-3. Our wingbacks get dragged so deep. Kudos to Emerson for covering the ground he does (don't get me wrong, he's nowhere near good enough - but at least he tries, you can't blame him for that). Dier has been so bad lately it's laughable.

What I really hate seeing is when the other team has the ball 25-30 yards out and has time to move it from side to side, mainly due to the fact that we have a flat back 5 on the 18 yard line in defence, with only the 2 midfielders trying to deal with 5 of their players (3 mids and 2 FBs).
This is my main issue as well. I’ve got no problem with us getting men behind the ball and letting the opposition have the ball in their own half. But we should be pressing and play with more energy when they are in our half.
It seems we are more concerned about keeping a rigid shape than engaging the opposition.
 

bc205

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Of course it's wrong from the fans, but playing devils advocate they don't have another way to voice their concerns.

Please can we stop with this bullshit. They're not voicing 'concerns'. They are bullying and abusing a player.

Sick to death of people trying to excuse/minimise this toxic behaviour.
 

0-Tibsy-0

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He had two bad moments yesterday.

Skied the ball over the bar and had a really wayward, and slightly dangerous, cross field pass.

They really stuck out and were frustrating - but other than that, I thought he was quite decent...
 
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JCRD

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Booing isn't a reaction to his performance level and there are posters who simply don't judge him with a level head or apply any sort of balanced opinion of him
We have finished top 4 with him in the side, we have won away at City with him, we're sitting top 4 and topped the CL group, he's simply not as bad as the criticism aimed at him would suggest
There's absolutely justified reason to want a better player in his position but people act like we have world class options in his position and that it's easy to drop him
I really don't see him doing worse than the likes of Dier, Sess or Davies of late yet he's treated with such contempt at times it's embarrassing

The thing is - you dont need to be world class to be better than Emerson although acting like Spence is the second coming of Cafu is also out there.

Again as I mentioned not his fault he is playing, that is down to Conte. Emerson has a couple of decent qualities but in general he is very poor. That miss over the bar - we all knew what will happen - the players, the opposition, the fans. He isnt why we have lost previously or even playing poorly and clearly isnt a RWB. If he played for anyone else - we would all be laughign our heads off.
 

Finchyid

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Genuinely one of the worst first team regulars of the last 20 years, I cannot fathom why he keeps getting picked. Sure, we don't have a world class alternative, but in no way is he better than Doherty, and I'd imagine there are several others who would be a better choice there just now.
You can’t have been watching the last 20 years of you believe that
 

Rob

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That was more on Dier.

Højbjerg had the ball, the two attackers at the bottom were covered by Davies and Lenglet. At this point, Dier has to pick up the man running through the middle. Our RWB is never going to get goal-side of the player running in the middle of the pitch.

The pass was made, player gets past Dier - and then beats Lloris near post.

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At least we watched the same match!
 

chrisd2k

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Please can we stop with this bullshit. They're not voicing 'concerns'. They are bullying and abusing a player.

Sick to death of people trying to excuse/minimise this toxic behaviour.
I mean if you ignore the rest of my post sure
 
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