Player watch: Christian Eriksen

[TheVoiceofReason]

How dare Levy try and get the best deal for a quality player. What a shit chairman.

You must be joking. Levy has literally managed to engineer that we get the worst deal for this quality player.

 

[JUSTINSIGNAL]

Fine, if it’s peak Bale with a couple of years left on his contract. But look at the context. In less than six months, Eriksen walks anyway. And he’s not peak Bale, so isn’t going to impact significantly on our season in a positive way- if anything, he’s a hindrance.
Think of a house you own that’s got subsidence- which is impacting on your neighbours property and your liable for this- and your ownership of it expires in the summer. Why wouldn’t you get rid of it for something as quick as possible?

Inter want him NOW. This is just the negotiation process. They’ll come to an agreement eventually.

Who says Eriksen is impacting anything? Mourinho doesn’t have to play him and I don’t see how he affects us signing a striker?

 

[mattyspurs]

You can haggle a deal when you have absolutely no leverage lol.

I think we do have leverage. Inter want him now, they are going for the title. They also don’t want to get into a wages and signing on fee auction with bigger clubs than themselves in the summer.

They will pay up for those reasons

 

[doctor stefan Freud]

Inter want him NOW. This is just the negotiation process. They’ll come to an agreement eventually.

Who says Eriksen is impacting anything? Mourinho doesn’t have to play him and I don’t see how he affects us signing a striker?

He’s a number in the squad, and he’s also wages.

Supposing Inter get frustrated with Levy but strike up a very good deal with Eriksen and basically offer him a bit more if he signs in the summer? Then we have nothing and the two negatives above

 

[JUSTINSIGNAL]

You can haggle a deal when you have absolutely no leverage lol.

The leverage is Inter wants him NOW. Conte has already moaned that Inter don’t have a big enough squad and this is clearly a player they want. They won’t walk away when Eriksen could make the difference between them winning the league or not. It’s pretty obvious. Not everything is an opportunity to bash Levy.

 

[Deleted member 27995]

You must be joking. Levy has literally managed to engineer that we get the worst deal for this quality player.

When was the best time to engineer a deal for him then?

Are we back to selling him at his peak?

 

[JUSTINSIGNAL]

He’s a number in the squad, and he’s also wages.

Supposing Inter get frustrated with Levy but strike up a very good deal with Eriksen and basically offer him a bit more if he signs in the summer? Then we have nothing and the two negatives above

Seriously that scenario won’t happen. Conte has demanded more players this window to help them win the league. They are not gonna pass up this opportunity for a couple extra million. Relax.

 

[sausage]

I think what ever offer comes in will be rejected.

With the way Jose has spoken on his future already decided, I can only assume he has a deal lined up already.

So there is no point in us trying to push him out the door, he is happy to wait until the sumer to go.

Inter wouldn't be making formal offers if Eriksen hadn't already agreed terms (through his agent) imo.

 

[doctor stefan Freud]

Seriously that scenario won’t happen. Conte has demanded more players this window to help them win the league. They are not gonna pass up this opportunity for a couple extra million. Relax.

You’re underestimating the power of Daniel

 

[TheVoiceofReason]

When was the best time to engineer a deal for him then?

Are we back to selling him at his peak?

A better time was any single other time than now. Surely?

In that case why don’t we wind down all our top players contracts to 6 months, see where that gets us.

PS: Also just noticed Arthur Russell in yr avatar ?

 

[swarvsta]

Fine, if it’s peak Bale with a couple of years left on his contract. But look at the context. In less than six months, Eriksen walks anyway. And he’s not peak Bale, so isn’t going to impact significantly on our season in a positive way- if anything, he’s a hindrance.
Think of a house you own that’s got subsidence- which is impacting on your neighbours property and your liable for this- and your ownership of it expires in the summer. Why wouldn’t you get rid of it for something as quick as possible?

Because for various reasons, Levy is confident he will get an improved offer - possibly even the full £20million he is looking for.

By holding firm for around 2 weeks, he will generate the club an extra £9million.

It’s called negotiating??‍

 

[slartibartfast]

The leverage is Inter wants him NOW. Conte has already moaned that Inter don’t have a big enough squad and this is clearly a player they want. They won’t walk away when Eriksen could make the difference between them winning the league or not. It’s pretty obvious. Not everything is an opportunity to bash Levy.

Letting it get to where we are is an opportunity to bash Levy!
Its been total incompetence to let our squad get to the state where almost half your regular starting 11 are on the last year of their contract. Add to that not bringing in 1 single player in 2 windows when we had finally against all odds established ourselves as a regular top 4 team, well, what would you call it? Good business?
That said we could do a lot worse than Enic and Levy and he has done wonders for the club but the last 2 years have been nothing short of a cluster fuck that has set us back, possibly for a long time. The only good thing is Chelsea, Man U and Arsenal are also pissing in the wind recently.

 

[Deleted member 27995]

A better time was any single other time than now. Surely?

In that case why don’t we wind down all our top players contracts to 6 months, see where that gets us.

PS: Also just noticed Arthur Russell in yr avatar ?

I dunno about that, I mean all we've heard up until the Inter story broke was that he was focused on the two giants in Spain and nothing else. There was the story about United and his rejection of them which means unless we had offers on the table he wasn't going anywhere ...

Yeah, Arthur Russell is a bona fide genius who to this day doesn't get enough recognition musically. Great man, sad end (somewhat)

 

[JayB]

I've been harshly critical of Levy, am generally of the mind that our recruitment is absolutely fucking tragically inept and that he ought to have been relieved of any duties regarding transfers other than setting budgets years ago, but I don't think it's really fair to blame him for the Eriksen situation. The players have the power to run their contracts down to maximize leverage and clubs are completely powerless to stop them if they're determined to do so.

Perhaps the only positive of this whole situation is that Eriksen's decision to run his contract down has completely blown up in his face, providing a cautionary tale for others in the squad who might think about doing the same. I really don't see what we could have done aside from potentially trying to sell him in the summer of 2018, which would have been extraordinarily unpopular at the time though in hindsight we may have been better off. Even then he probably only would have accepted Barca or Madrid at that time and there's little indication that either would have been interested.

 

[sausage]

Its been total incompetence to let our squad get to the state where almost half your regular starting 11 are on the last year of their contract.

Eh?

 

[SpartanSpur]

Just hope Inter pay up soon. You'd hope having another £15-20m to play with will help us do some business this window.

It's an awfully low fee for a player of his abilities but in a time where the bosman is getting more and more frequent it would actually be a bit of a bonus, along with the fact he's going abroad (always a preference for me for outgoing players). I was convinced he'd see the season out until recently.

 

[JUSTINSIGNAL]

You must be joking. Levy has literally managed to engineer that we get the worst deal for this quality player.

How so? He can’t force the player to leave? And even if the ITK about Eriksen apparently saying this was his last contract with us 4 years ago was true for all we know Poch asked to keep him until last summer and then a replacement brought in like Lo Celso. Levy can’t control that the form of the player dipped and therefore expected bids from Madrid never materialised.

 

[swarvsta]

You must be joking. Levy has literally managed to engineer that we get the worst deal for this quality player.

Has he really? And you know this how?

Levy has more business acumen than anyone on this forum, yet so many seem to always know better than him.

Clearly, Levy is not an idiot. He would have done everything he could to get Eriksen tied to a new deal. He has done this successfully with countless of our players over the years.

Eriksen was not willing to sign a new contract. He set his stall out back in 2017/18, and had decided he wanted a new challenge in his career.

We tried to make him top earner, but Eriksen was not going to sign. He wanted to leave.

He was available this summer but no suitable bids came in from clubs he was willing to move to.

I don’t really know what else we were supposed to have done.

I think that sadly this will become more and more common - with players running down their contracts and leaving clubs powerless.

 

[ToDarrenIsToDo]

Lol can you imagine if our targets this January were Moses, Young, and Giroud? I bet Eriksen would be staying if we were showing that kind of ambition.

And I imagine our fans would be throwing wobbly after wobbly if we were signing Ashley Young, Victor Moses and Olivier Giroud.

If offered those three or Gedson, give me Gedson

 

[SpartanSpur]

I've been harshly critical of Levy, am generally of the mind that our recruitment is absolutely fucking tragically inept and that he ought to have been relieved of any duties regarding transfers other than setting budgets years ago, but I don't think it's really fair to blame him for the Eriksen situation. The players have the power to run their contracts down to maximize leverage and clubs are completely powerless to stop them if they're determined to do so.

Perhaps the only positive of this whole situation is that Eriksen's decision to run his contract down has completely blown up in his face, providing a cautionary tale for others in the squad who might think about doing the same. I really don't see what we could have done aside from potentially trying to sell him in the summer of 2018, which would have been extraordinarily unpopular at the time though in hindsight we may have been better off. Even then he probably only would have accepted Barca or Madrid at that time and there's little indication that either would have been interested.

I think had we been as established as we are now back then we would have considered it a lot more seriously. Summer 2017 or 2018 we were still kinda establishing ourselves as a top club on the European stage. The stadium and CL final have since pushed us over the edge I feel. We now have a top 10 turnover so we can start paying more competitive wages, which was a huge issue for us at the time. Eriksen leaving could have had a knock on effect on the rest of the squad too. Kane, Hugo, Dele and Son signed new deals that summer I believe.

I think we're much better equipped now to sell a player for decent money and buy good replacements. He hasn't started great but Ndombele really felt like a signing that smashed the glass ceiling.

I feel the plan in 2018 was actually to get Frenkie De Jong in and let Eriksen go, but we just fell short in classic fashion.