Player Paulo Dybala

[BuckeyeSpurs11]

The salary I found here
https://www.capology.com/soccer/player/paulo-dybala/salary-profile

His image rights, I have no idea where someone could find that. It’s also a price that we’d have to negotiate with whomever owns it and the rumored 12m could be far off? Who knows.

That’s also €134k NET..gross he’s above 200k

 

[voxy28]

A further report in today’s Gazzetta Dello Sport suggests that Dybala has asked for €12m plus bonuses and another €15m commission for agent Jorge Antun.
Alonsgide this, the players former agents Star Image have reportedly contacted United and warned against a transfer as they are currently in legal action against Dybala for breach of contract after he left them for a new agency in 2017.
The agreement between La Joya and Star Image was signed for 10 years, menaing future image rights could potentially reach a higher amount.
Star Image are reportedly preparing to file paperwork with the International Chamber of Commerce later this week which could result in a liability of up to €40m for Dybala.

https://www.juvefc.com/dybala-image-rights-hindering-deal/

Legally speaking, will the buying club have those liabilities or solely between new agent and the player?

 

[robertgoulet]

I'm sure the argument to the 3rd party with regards to the buyout is "hey, either you let us buy you out or he sits the bench for Juve and/or goes to a lesser team and what good are his image rights to you at that point?"

To answer your question though, I don't think there's any liability with the buying club. It's all with the player.

 

[Château NoHo]

I am not a lawyer, and I don't live in the UK (American), but are we sure that image rights are even legally recognized in the UK?

https://www.wipo.int/ip-outreach/en/ipday/2019/understanding_sports_image_rights.html

https://www.lawinsport.com/content/...s-laws-apply-to-sport-in-the-us-uk-and-europe

 

[robertgoulet]

I am not a lawyer, and I don't live in the UK (American), but are we sure that image rights are even legally recognized in the UK?

https://www.wipo.int/ip-outreach/en/ipday/2019/understanding_sports_image_rights.html

https://www.lawinsport.com/content/...s-laws-apply-to-sport-in-the-us-uk-and-europe

That was what started the talk in the first place, I think. That in order for him to come to the Prem we need to be able to buy out the 3rd party.

I think the question above was with regards to the lawsuit and whether it would effect his team or just him.

 

[samspurs92]

One is SKYsports Italy and the other is FootballItalia

Both have a variation of Italy in the there so I guess it bamboozled your simpleton mind

If you actually read them instead of being rude, one of them says Sky Sports Italy and the other one says Sky Sports Italia.

Maybe refrain from calling someone a simpleton if you lack the ability to read.

 

[Mornstar]

If you actually read them instead of being rude, one of them says Sky Sports Italy and the other one says Sky Sports Italia.

Maybe refrain from calling someone a simpleton if you lack the ability to read.

Yeah but simpleton putting it to support a simpleton argument to a simpleton mind shouldn't be taken to simpleton imply that you are a simpleton. You get what I mean? If not, you might indeed be a simpleton!

 

[ardiles]

I’d imagine that Kane has been jizzing all night , reading all the links to these players and thinking of all the assists that he’ll be getting this season.

 

[guiltyparty]

Sounds bad news brown and about 1% likely to happen.

 

[BigPlimpton]

A further report in today’s Gazzetta Dello Sport suggests that Dybala has asked for €12m plus bonuses and another €15m commission for agent Jorge Antun.
Alonsgide this, the players former agents Star Image have reportedly contacted United and warned against a transfer as they are currently in legal action against Dybala for breach of contract after he left them for a new agency in 2017.
The agreement between La Joya and Star Image was signed for 10 years, menaing future image rights could potentially reach a higher amount.
Star Image are reportedly preparing to file paperwork with the International Chamber of Commerce later this week which could result in a liability of up to €40m for Dybala.

https://www.juvefc.com/dybala-image-rights-hindering-deal/

Legally speaking, will the buying club have those liabilities or solely between new agent and the player?

There shouldn’t be liability for the buying club but liability and exposure can be different concepts. Creative lawyers can rope in parties to a lawsuit who don’t technically belong in order to try and force a more lucrative settlement, and if they can rope in the club to the suit they can potentially tie up the club’s image revenues with (in American law at least) a court injunction pending resolution of the dispute between player and agents. Which, again, can result in a more lucrative settlement that the club may have to become a part of because it basically results in extortion with the club’s revenues being frozen. So if you’re the buying club you have to factor in unpredictable (and extremely expensive) large London firm legal costs and the possibility that image revenues potentially relied upon to finance the deal could get tangled up in court. A typical big six London firm can easily bill 100k a month on a dispute like this.

All of the above being said, this issue from the beginning struck me as an excuse for United to blow on about to distract from the fact that no world class players want to join their collapsing mess of a club. At the end of the day money talks and almost every legal dispute can be settled.

 

[spursfan77]

Apparently the Premier league doesn't allow for 3rd parties to own image rights.

At least that is what I think.

Don’t half the players have their image right bank accounts in the Channel Islands or in some movie making scheme nowadays to avoid tax?

If they allow that, I can’t believe they have a rule on third parties owning image rights.

 

[luptic]

Dybala doesnt happen for me. Way to complicated.
Countinho looks like the alternative.
Bruno looks better.
Lo Celso..... we will see what happens.
Two days to get thinks done.... Enough time, but things to happen fast for me.
If there is no positive news today given what went on yesterday, i'd be panicking.

 

[tototoner]

I cannot see Dybala happening either, if Man Utd couldn't agree to his wages demands how can we.

 

[$hoguN]

I cannot see Dybala happening either, if Man Utd couldn't agree to his wages demands how can we.

Because he never wanted to go there so asked for a King’s ransom. The question is, is he doing the same with us?

 

[Montalbano]

It's all falling into place lads.

 

[tototoner]

Because he never wanted to go there so asked for a King’s ransom. The question is, is he doing the same with us?

Hope u are right and hope he isn't

 

[tiger666]

It's all falling into place lads.

I've been here far too many times to get my hopes up. What was the last supposed big one to go tits? Gotze?

 

[fingersinc]

When I was younger the customary way of going about transfers was to agree a deal with the club and then with the player. If I'm not misremembering, it was considered bad practice to deal with the player before dealing with the club.

Am I mistaken or has the culture changed since then?

I’m probably old skool like you. I always thought you weren’t allowed to speak to a player until a fee had been agreed. I think it was a gentleman’s agreement between clubs. Same thing regarding transfer requests. If a player put in a request, especially after he received his loyalty bonus, then he wouldn’t play for the club again. Times have changed I guess.

 

[he is you know!]

Hope u are right and hope he isn't

Herc added late in thread last night that it will be same as Kane. Being worked on.

 

[rossdapep]

I've been here far too many times to get my hopes up. What was the last supposed big one to go tits? Gotze?

I don't recall us ever being this close to Goetze?! Think that was more of a rumour from one source and maybe one ITK. The noise is much louder on this one.