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Nicolo Zaniolo

C0YS

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The gulf in sheer technical ability between di Canio and Zola especially compared to this kid is wider than the grand canyon.
Comments like these really annoy me. Di Canio hadn't even made his debut at Zaniolo's age, and it was only until his mid-twenties that he started playing with any sort of consistency. While Zola was famous for being a late bloomer, didn't play in serie A until well into his twenties.

The guy is a kid, with a lot of potential and quality, but a kid.
 

C0YS

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For what its worth, Roma fans really really rate him.

Most fans would be very unhappy for less than 50m euros for him. The deal therefore makes sense from a Roma prespective.

In anycase Juve are probably favorites to sign him.
 
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BENNO

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I really don't understand what some people see in this kid. And trading Toby for him AND adding 27 mill in cash is such a ludicrously bad deal that I hope it's just not true.
He’s not good enough. If we bought him it would mean we wouldn’t sign any other midfielders this summer. He would become more dead wood we can’t shift next summer. Bad piece of business if it happened.
I’m worried about this deal. I really don’t see it with this kid, doesn’t seem to have any pace, no real standout attributes and seems a bit cumbersome too, not suited to the Prem at all and losing Toby in the process would just make it 10 times worse.


Lo Celso and Ceballos please.
Those saying no thanks to this guy have probably watched the same amount of games he played in as they’ve done with Lo Celso. I’ve barely watched both so I’m not in the position to turn my nose up at either.

Exactly, while everyone is entitled to their opinion, it's an absolute certainty that someone from Spurs HAS watched a lot of this kid and DOES rate him. Which is more than good enough for me as it's also an absolute certainty that whoever watched him knows more about spotting talented footballers than anyone replying to this thread. Also worth noting that there is little point singing the praises of our fantastic manager (as we all do) but then not trusting his judgement. Would have thought watching Sissoko last season should have taught fans plenty !
 

nedley

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Jul 28, 2006
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For what its worth, Roma fans really really rate him.

Most fans would be very unhappy for less than 50m euros for him. The deal therefore makes sense from a Roma prespective.

In anycase Juve are probably favorites to sign him.


Its because he's a very talented young player. I have no idea why some are against it.

I personally don't think it will materialise into anything but he's a quality player.
 

Lilbaz

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The gulf in sheer technical ability between di Canio and Zola especially compared to this kid is wider than the grand canyon.

The kid has just turned 20 had already made an appearance for the national side before he had a senior appearance. Zola was 25 before he appeared for italy.

They must see something in him.
 

nedley

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The kid has just turned 20 had already made an appearance for the national side before he had a senior appearance. Zola was 25 before he appeared for italy.

They must see something in him.

There is.

Hence some of his performances in the CL.
 

Montalbano

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First let me get this started by saying IMO this is just paper talk and I don't think this will happen. The Roma fans that I speak to are optimistic that he will be there at the start of this season (and so is the Italian press for the most part) and it also seems that we are prioritizing CMs and not AMs this window.

My family has a residence in Rome that I spend a lot of time in each year. I try to catch a few games at the Stadio Olimpico each season but watch a lot of AS Roma. I can tell you that in my opinion this kid is talented and Roma fans love him. At age 19 last season he was a physical specimen, towering over defenders and outmuscling them in the box. I call him the Italian Dele because his skillset and playstyle is VERY similar to Dele's. He's at his best when he's playing behind a striker(s) as essentially a second striker. He makes very intelligent runs in the box and can use his body to win balls in the air and hold up defenders for other attacking players. He linked up especially well with Dzeko and makes clever passes in the final third like Dele (dinks and through balls). He's also a great finisher from inside the box, a very capable dribbler, but lacks elite top speed. Like Dele, Zaniolo (and Roma) also had a season of ups and downs. Zaniolo only was able to play his preferred position (behind the striker) 8 times, in which he scored 4 goals. Due to Roma's formation changes (switching to a 4-3-3 and similar variations with 3 attackers upfront) and their attempt to accommodate injured players, he was often deployed as a wide forward, a RM, and a CM, none which are best suited to his attributes (or Dele's).

If we sign him, it's a pretty sure sign to me we don't plan on using a 4-3-3 as it is does not suit players like Dele and Zaniolo and we will likely be using a formation with a distinguished role for a #10 or second striker, whether it be our 4-1-2-1-2 diamond with Dele and Zaniolo competing for a spot behind the striker OR even a 4321 or 4231. I also think signing Zaniolo would mean that we see him as Dele's competition and Lamela as an option on the left of a midfield three (effectively a backup for one of GLC or Ceballos) or we plan to sell him.
 

yido_number1

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Zaniolo for Lamela in itself would present a stupid move.

I've seen absolutely nothing of Zaniolo to suggest he's anywhere near Lamela's ability.

Lamela gets thrown pelters on here for being injured, yet Danny Rose misses god knows how long, slags the club off on numerous occasions but gets a free pass for no real reason.
Be fair rose got injured going into a committed tackle. He throws the same pelters at the club as most fans do crying out for investment in playing staff. Neither deserve the criticism. My only issue with Lamela is his lack of availability across his whole career with us which isn't his fault.
 

THFCSPURS19

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Some say he's very reliable so I'm not sure wait to see someone like Di marzio say it
Yeah some people probably think he's reliable but then they probs also think 'ITKs' with 48 followers are reliable as well. But yeah if Di Marzio says something then time to take notice.
 

Japhet

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Yeah some people probably think he's reliable but then they probs also think 'ITKs' with 48 followers are reliable as well. But yeah if Di Marzio says something then time to take notice.

Anyone care to compile a League table of sources from Very Reliable down to Clueless. I read the reports but then have little idea of how reliable the source is so it would be a handy reference point.
 

THFCSPURS19

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Anyone care to compile a League table of sources from Very Reliable down to Clueless. I read the reports but then have little idea of how reliable the source is so it would be a handy reference point.
I want to do this but it's effort. There's an existing table made by people on reddit but I think it's quite inaccurate.
 
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