Will never happen and might sound ridiculous but there’s no reason Wilder couldn’t be the next fergie. Sheffield United have outplayed Spurs Liverpool and Arsenal got a draw at Chelsea. They have 2nd best defence in league. Conceded half the goals we have. Wilder has succeeded in every job so far. He had an average playing career like fergie, he’s 52 fergie was 51 when he won first title. He has that same gritty outlook like a Clough Shankly Fergie. He has done no less than Pochettino did to get the job. Who’s to say he couldn’t be another great British manager.
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He left in time to avoid the second horse!
The Doc
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Monkey tennis? Arm wrestling with Chas and Dave? Cooking in prison? Caravanning with Chris Eubank?
tototoner
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He quit Celtic when just about to win the treble in Scotland for the 3rd year in a row.
The guy is hugely ambitious and ruthless. Maybe he thinks he can win the league with Leicester - maybe not, but I am sure he'll think he can win the league with us.
Also you say we are a losing club, we have lost 4/12 in the league and 1/4 in the CL. We aren't losing every game.
Spurslove
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Thats true, but the Dybala deal didn't go through because of some naming rights issues, not because of the wages. As far as I remember, we'd agreed the wages but got held up when Juventus pulled the plug over the naming rights problems.
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Shadydan
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That's an old argument now.
GetSpurredOn
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Sad to say, I’m definitely in the ‘Poch Our’ brigade. I really hoped he could turn it around, I felt the progress he’d made in taking us from Europa regulars to CL regulars was worthy of a bit of time, but I’m just not seeing any glimpses of change. The team looks lethargic and tactically lost. His selections are starting to appear desperate rolls for a dice, and his in game changes are either negative, or else just too late to make any impact. He’s a motivator, no denying, but he’s either lost the trust of the players, or just plan lost his own enthusiasm, maybe both.
Poch started out with a style of football that became our brand, a resilience and intensity that few teams could live with, but that has gone, and ultimately if that’s because the squad of players are too old, or just not stylistically right, that’s his fault for allowing that to happen. He’s supposed to get the final nod on transfers, and like most people if you chose the wrong tools for your job, it’s nobody else’s fault.
There is a school of thought that Levy has handcuffed him somewhat, but for a man of supposed principles like Poch, who’s at fault for accepting those limitations. Would anyone have blamed him for walking when he got no new signings the two summers ago, or again that January. We fell short, and didn’t do anything to bridge that gap, what was the outcome really ever going to be.
I’m of the opinion that Poch has found his ceiling and taken us as far as he’s able, much like Jol and Redknapp did prior to him. They moved us forward but hit their limits and were replaced with apparent upgrades. Poch has taken us to nearly men, the next step is a proven winner to take us the next step.
On that point, those that wonder if we are truly an attractive proposition, of course we are. We have state of the art training facilities, the biggest stadium in London and arguably one of the best in the world. Squad wise, we have players like Kane and Son who the likes of Klopp and Pep would absolutely love to have. If Alli can find his mojo, he’s still very young and can be devastating. We have a number of players 23 or under who are all regular IntentionalS (or very nearly) who would be highly sought after, Foyth, Sanchez, Ndombele, Lo Celso, Winks, Sessegnon. Let’s not sell ourselves short as a club. Admittedly Levy gets a lot of criticism for being tight, but he still broke out record this summer to deliver Ndombele who we were told was his managers first choice.
Any new manager that comes in will be given money I’m sure, because there is an obvious rebuild ahead, and the stadium funding restructure I’m quite sure requires us to be at CL tv money levels, not hovering around mid to lower table as we are currently.
This international break seems the ideal time to pull the trigger, get a Mourinho or Allegri in, someone that knows what it takes to win trophies, how to handle big players, and watch us go to the next level. Do it now, so they have 6/7 weeks to assess where the squad is at, and then make the relevant changes early in Jan, as that could be the difference between making that gap back up to CL football qualification, and ending the season with potential of no European football next year. Take the rest of the season to stabilise back at Top 4 level, make further changes in the summer, then try and break into the Liverpool/City battle.
In all honesty, European results aside, can anyone see any signs of improvement in the league, across Brighton, Watford, Everton and Sheff Utd, any signs of recovery that looks like we’ll get back to the top 4???
Poch started out with a style of football that became our brand, a resilience and intensity that few teams could live with, but that has gone, and ultimately if that’s because the squad of players are too old, or just not stylistically right, that’s his fault for allowing that to happen. He’s supposed to get the final nod on transfers, and like most people if you chose the wrong tools for your job, it’s nobody else’s fault.
There is a school of thought that Levy has handcuffed him somewhat, but for a man of supposed principles like Poch, who’s at fault for accepting those limitations. Would anyone have blamed him for walking when he got no new signings the two summers ago, or again that January. We fell short, and didn’t do anything to bridge that gap, what was the outcome really ever going to be.
I’m of the opinion that Poch has found his ceiling and taken us as far as he’s able, much like Jol and Redknapp did prior to him. They moved us forward but hit their limits and were replaced with apparent upgrades. Poch has taken us to nearly men, the next step is a proven winner to take us the next step.
On that point, those that wonder if we are truly an attractive proposition, of course we are. We have state of the art training facilities, the biggest stadium in London and arguably one of the best in the world. Squad wise, we have players like Kane and Son who the likes of Klopp and Pep would absolutely love to have. If Alli can find his mojo, he’s still very young and can be devastating. We have a number of players 23 or under who are all regular IntentionalS (or very nearly) who would be highly sought after, Foyth, Sanchez, Ndombele, Lo Celso, Winks, Sessegnon. Let’s not sell ourselves short as a club. Admittedly Levy gets a lot of criticism for being tight, but he still broke out record this summer to deliver Ndombele who we were told was his managers first choice.
Any new manager that comes in will be given money I’m sure, because there is an obvious rebuild ahead, and the stadium funding restructure I’m quite sure requires us to be at CL tv money levels, not hovering around mid to lower table as we are currently.
This international break seems the ideal time to pull the trigger, get a Mourinho or Allegri in, someone that knows what it takes to win trophies, how to handle big players, and watch us go to the next level. Do it now, so they have 6/7 weeks to assess where the squad is at, and then make the relevant changes early in Jan, as that could be the difference between making that gap back up to CL football qualification, and ending the season with potential of no European football next year. Take the rest of the season to stabilise back at Top 4 level, make further changes in the summer, then try and break into the Liverpool/City battle.
In all honesty, European results aside, can anyone see any signs of improvement in the league, across Brighton, Watford, Everton and Sheff Utd, any signs of recovery that looks like we’ll get back to the top 4???
freeeki
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Surely though, the time must be approaching where Levy realises sacking Poch now and taking the financial hit is far less damaging than failing to qualify for any European competition next season and potentially the seasons to follow
paulcumpstone
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There is no chance another club comes in for a manager than has 25 points from his last 25 league games, the drop off in the last 12 months is staggering, Levy will have to start looking at how far this slide is allowed to continue before it's too late. We are already 11 points off CL and if this continues till christmas I'd be surprised if we finished top half.
VancouverSpur
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The issue is what other top job is available that he would be interested in or they would be interested in him. Real Madrid are getting back to form and looks like OGS will hang on a bit longer. Lots of talk about Valverde being on thin ice at Barca but the Espanyol thing rules that out.
Bayern Munich is the only obvious one unless he really wants us to lose our shit and goes for the Arsenal job?
Bayern Munich is the only obvious one unless he really wants us to lose our shit and goes for the Arsenal job?
spursfan77
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I mentioned after reading the article on him in 442 magazine a couple of months ago that he and his team should be kept an eye on. It’s worth digging out if you can find it. I’ve thrown the magazine away else I’d take some screenshots.
He has been successful in the lower league and has won back to back promotions in the football league. His team are now fifth on probably the lowest budget in the league. If his name was Christiano Wilderinho and he’d done the same in Spain or Germany with his team there in sheffield United’s current position they’d be people wanting him to be linked to us.
Shadydan
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You sure about that? Despite the form of this year there will be host of clubs after him due to his work for the majority of time here especially under financial constraints.
We are 12th and have have one pot under ENIC in last 20years
paulcumpstone
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What despite not having won a trophy, clubs may have gambled on him in the summer of the back of the champions league run but cant see any of the big club thinking hes anything but a gamble
Dont get me wrong I do think clubs would still like him as there manager but not the big clubs he would be looking for to consider walking out on us
Timberwolf
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As I said in the match thread, what he's done over the past few seasons is incredible. 3 promotions in 4 seasons without spending any money, while playing fairly attractive, tactically astute football.
If he didn't look like a sentient potato and have the glamour of a pint of Boddingtons, I think people on here would consider him a much more attractive option.
That said, I'm always a bit wary of bigging up British managers who have a good start in the PL. While their styles are different, we've seen so many flavours of the month like Owen Coyle and Phil Brown quickly get found out and slip back down to their natural level. He'd still be a very big risk no doubt.
WiganSpur
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I think we could do a lot lot worse than him. Even just off yesterday, you could see the team were well drilled and were just lacking the individual quality to really tear us to shreds. I don’t think he’d take any shit from anyone either.
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