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[OPModric]

He's literally said the next club he joins he wants to win though.

Mourinho said: "The only thing that I know is what I don't want, and what I don't want is crystal clear. What I want, the general profile of course, but I can't say clubs or countries.

"I am quite pathological in this sense that I have to play to win, and then if I win or I don't win that's my problem, and the players' and the club's and the structure.

"But I need a project where the feeling is I play to win.

This is why all this talk about Jose feels like nothingness to me, it's not about whether he's a good manager or not he clearly is, it's whether he can fit within the infrastructure Levy puts forward and I don't think Jose would even entertain it.

We don't exactly know what's within the new infrastrucure with the new stadium. We can't make that conclusion from past seasons. Levy bought two players for 60m this summer, so we may operate in a different way now.

 

[wrd]

We don't exactly know what's within the new infrastrucure with the new stadium. We can't make that conclusion from past seasons. Levy bought two players for 60m this summer, so we may operate in a different way now.

We might but I can't see us operating as tight as humanly possible with Poch and then going the complete opposite with a new manager. I can't see Levy abandoning a habit of a lifetime and if he was going to then I think we'd see it or have seen it under Poch. I think the reason we spent more this summer is from the funds generated from the champions league run. Purely opinion though no evidence to suggest what you're saying isn't true.

 

[rossdapep]

RB Leipzig coach Julian Nagelsmann says you're left with no chance as a coach if your players aren't willing to run that extra mile for you.

"You have no chance if the players don't play for you," Nagelsmann told MDR.

When things get exhausting, a player looks to the sidelines and thinks, 'Am I willing to run for him or not?'. You can pack your bags if they don't run for you," he added.

Like this quote from Nagelsmann on Bundesliga news today. Makes me wonder if the players look over to Poch on the touchline and question what they are doing.

Of course they do. You can see it. The enthusiasm is no longer there and when things aren't working the players will always look to the coach for answers.

And if your coach has been giving inconsistent messages week to week you're going to not know which way too look.

From here on, Poch needs to be consistent.

 

[Hakkz]

Give him his dues, he did fantastically well at Porto without a huge budget.

That wasn't in the last 10 years though was it? I think he did well at Inter with the resources he had as well.

 

[Mr Pink]

RB Leipzig coach Julian Nagelsmann says you're left with no chance as a coach if your players aren't willing to run that extra mile for you.

"You have no chance if the players don't play for you," Nagelsmann told MDR.

When things get exhausting, a player looks to the sidelines and thinks, 'Am I willing to run for him or not?'. You can pack your bags if they don't run for you," he added.

Like this quote from Nagelsmann on Bundesliga news today. Makes me wonder if the players look over to Poch on the touchline and question what they are doing.

Thats exactly what has happened.

And the most telling point that encapsulated that was the Brighton game.

After being humiliated they just strolled around, I knew it was over under Poch then.

And nothing has happened since to convince me otherwise.

 

[muppetman]

We don't exactly know what's within the new infrastrucure with the new stadium. We can't make that conclusion from past seasons. Levy bought two players for 60m this summer, so we may operate in a different way now.

I think Levy's idea of spending big and Mourinho's idea of spending big might be slightly different.

Mourinho will know that to win the league (which is what I take from his quotes) means beating Man City and Liverpool (and to a lesser degree Chelsea, Man United and Arsenal) which from everything I've seen from him means he will need to outspend those teams or get players he deems to be better than theirs which is almost the same thing.

We currently need a new LB, RB, CB (maybe two - not convinced Mourinho would be happy with Sanchez/Foyth/Dier and Jan and Toby are past their best), CM (maybe two depending on how you rate Winks), ST and probably an upgrade on Moura to get us on a similar footing to the big boys.

Don't do it to yourself - he will go somewhere he thinks he can genuinely win the league and that ain't us. The new stadium is part of a long term project to allow us to compete - it's not going to mean spending on the scale of the super clubs.

 

[SpursSince1980]

Thats exactly what has happened.

And the most telling point that encapsulates that was the Brighton game.

After being humiliated they just strolled around, I knew it was over under Poch then.

And nothing has happened since to convince me otherwise.

Correct. Which is why i can't see much point in dragging this out. Let's say we had lost at Anfield and drew as have against Sheff and Watford. If in all thoses cases we had played well and had looked organized and up for the fight, then fine. Poch is heading in the right direction. We may just need a little luck. But that's not what I'm seeing. I was honestly flabbergasted by the Sheff game. Even with how dire we've been, i didnt think we'd be played off the park in our own stadium by that team. Or like we were in Brighton. These are no longer anomalies. This is now the norm. And i have very little faith it can improve under Poch. Mostly cos he looks bemused by it all, and the players don't seem to be fighting hard enough. So, why do we think anything is going to change? It's ridiculous that we keep dragging this out.

 

[yankspurs]

Thats exactly what has happened.

And the most telling point that encapsulated that was the Brighton game.

After being humiliated they just strolled around, I knew it was over under Poch then.

And nothing has happened since to convince me otherwise.

Yep. Levy just refuses to put him, the players and the fans out of their misery. The longer he waits, the worse off we'll be.

 

[Mr Pink]

Correct. Which is why i can't see much point in dragging this out. Let's say we had lost at Anfield and drew as have against Sheff and Watford. If in all thoses cases we had played well and had looked organized and up for the fight, then fine. Poch is heading in the right direction. We may just need a little luck. But that's not what I'm seeing. I was honestly flabbergasted by the Sheff game. Even with how dire we've been, i didnt think we'd be played off the park in our own stadium by that team. Or like we were in Brighton. These are no longer anomalies. This is now the norm. And i have very little faith it can improve under Poch. Mostly cos he looks bemused by it all, and the players don't seem to be fighting hard enough. So, why do we think anything is going to change? It's ridiculous that we keep dragging this out.

If Levy thinks one window is going to sort things, especially with his form in the market, he's losing his instincts completely.

There's every chance we never recover under Poch, and if we do it could take considerable time.

I'm really surprised he isn't moving to sack him now, it's gone on too long, and this group of players arn't playing for him.

 

[Joeyboey]

Of course they do. You can see it. The enthusiasm is no longer there and when things aren't working the players will always look to the coach for answers.

And if your coach has been giving inconsistent messages week to week you're going to not know which way too look.

From here on, Poch needs to be consistent.

well he’s changed the starting line up for the last 94 games in a row so that’s not going to happen sadly.

 

[VancouverSpur]

well he’s changed the starting line up for the last 94 games in a row so that’s not going to happen sadly.

Saw that stat yesterday and had to do a double take...insane to have not named the same lineup twice in 94 games.

 

[spursfan77]

I think this is where his remit will be different to previous clubs.
He's intelligent enough to realise that winning the league is unrealistic at Spurs and won't be what defines him as a success or not.

Doubt he think that in private. You know if he came they’d be a section of our fan base desperate for him to fail.

 

[Metalhead]

That wasn't in the last 10 years though was it? I think he did well at Inter with the resources he had as well.

It wasn't but it shows that he can manage on a big budget as well as a modest budget.

 

[Gb160]

Doubt he think that in private. You know if he came they’d be a section of our fan base desperate for him to fail.

That goes without saying mate.

 

[yankspurs]

Doubt he think that in private. You know if he came they’d be a section of our fan base desperate for him to fail.

Theres a section of every fan base that secretly loves failure because there never happy unless there not happy.

 

[scat1620]

A domestic pot or two and some classic snidey, shit house, barely deserved victories at Anfield, Stamford Bridge and Woolwich would suffice, Jose. That's how we'd measure success.

Sign here.

What you've described there is pretty much my 'achievable dream' version of Spurs...

 

[spursfan77]

That goes without saying mate.

It’s utterly ridiculous isn’t it.

 

[Hakkz]

It wasn't but it shows that he can manage on a big budget as well as a modest budget.

I know. Which is why I limited it to ten years. Then there's another question if he can go back to not spending crazy. We'll see (wherever he ends up).

 

[Seafordian Spurs]

What you've described there is pretty much my 'achievable dream' version of Spurs...

Klopp going ape shit on the touchline as we shit house a one nil win, the only goal in the game occurring in the 3rd minute from a corner (one that probably shouldn't have been given).

The game is about glory and all that.

I'd so fucking King Kenny Keegan LOVE it!

 

[sausage]

I dislike Mourinho as a man and dislike a lot of what he stands for in terms of football.

But outside of that, I'm not sure he's the manager some people think he is.

At United he spent 360m on just 11 players and delivered very little in the way of success. Yes a Europa League and yes a League Cup but is that what we aspire to?

I mean technically, Poch has spent near enough the same and we've had much success (no trophies at least). If we look at both ends of the rope, we aren't better off at this end of it.

That's ignoring the fact that managers very, very, rarely are the ones spending the money - at United it seems that Woodward supplies and ships out players, and JM has made it known many times that they players they bought weren't the ones he wanted.

I think big clubs spend big money because it's what's expected of them, and they often do it badly.