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Who do you want as next Spurs manager?

  • Allegri

    Votes: 214 21.5%
  • Mourinho

    Votes: 258 25.9%
  • Wenger

    Votes: 9 0.9%
  • Pleat

    Votes: 4 0.4%
  • Ten Hag

    Votes: 54 5.4%
  • Wagner

    Votes: 1 0.1%
  • Howe

    Votes: 36 3.6%
  • Nagelsmann

    Votes: 75 7.5%
  • Other (explain)

    Votes: 16 1.6%
  • Keep Poch (lol)

    Votes: 166 16.6%
  • Rodgers

    Votes: 49 4.9%
  • de Boer (Poch mk2)

    Votes: 3 0.3%
  • Benitez

    Votes: 50 5.0%
  • Sherwood

    Votes: 6 0.6%
  • Bus-Conductor

    Votes: 26 2.6%
  • Goat (ffs)

    Votes: 6 0.6%
  • WalkerBoyUK’s lad’s u14 coach

    Votes: 8 0.8%
  • Sissoko

    Votes: 7 0.7%
  • Marco Rose

    Votes: 4 0.4%
  • freeeki

    Votes: 5 0.5%

  • Total voters
    997
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Johnny J

Not the Kiwi you need but the one you deserve
Aug 18, 2012
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Wow, he's gone. Decisive move by Levy. Thanks for all you've done for us, Poch. But I think this relationship had reached its end. He clearly wasn't motivating the players anymore.
 

ToDarrenIsToDo

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Aug 22, 2017
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it's a very good point but what we seem to do when things go against us is reboot and retry, often taking years in the process rather than see the bigger picture and act on a consistent basis. What we've stopped doing in the past few years is to keep trickling hungry fresh faces into the squad on a regular basis which keeps everything from becoming as stale as it is now. the scum, chavs, pool, united, etc have all lost numerous finals/big games over the past years but they keep evolving and build on it where we seem to see it as an endpoint. if you picked semi-finalists/finalists of all of the cups over the time we've been competing, it would still be a surprise to see us there whereas even when they're supposedly bad, our rivals still seem to make it to finals and win silverware. This is the step that we need to take, regardless of how we do it.

In the last 3 years we've added 10 new signings though (6 in 2017/18, 0 18/19, 4 19/20) at a potential cost of nearly £1/4bn pounds. We made a huge error one summer when truly unique circumstances of Villa being bailed out by billionaires happened. If it didn't we would have still continued to add, it was a thing that made everything we did right in trying to get a good, realistic deal impossible as their need for cash disappeared when they were able to sell their Stadium to the guys who now own them thus removing the Administration issues they faced at the time.

We compete with teams like Liverpool who can and have broken world records in two positions in recent years (Van Dijk & Allison), Man U who are a financial monster who can just throw money at anything they choose, teams like Chelsea and Man City who have owners so wealthy that they can lend their clubs £600m-£700m to quick fix their issues.

Yes the club needs to constantly tick over, we did that this summer it's just hugely unfortunate that the likes of Sessegnon & Lo Celso missed the first couple of months due to injuries and setbacks.
 

MichaelPawson

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Aug 22, 2013
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Official site has crashed, any idea who the caretaker manager is for Saturday? This really sucks, hate that it ended this way.
 
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TEESSIDE1

Married, new job and Spurs on the up!
Jul 3, 2006
15,181
18,969
The old saying of ‘the grass isn’t always greener on the other side’ because the new manager will have the same bunch of underperforming players just doesn’t float. Even with the contract twats we‘ve predominantly the same squad who have secured us multiple top 4 finishes. Yes they’re a bit older but most of them are either in or still yet to reach their prime, therefore to imply they can no longer press because they’ve not got the energy anymore or sufficient quality is way off the mark.

The current available players, twats excluded and the now fit 3 newbies are most certainly good enough to be finishing in the top 4. Therefore a new enthusiastic manager should be more than capable of turning our season around.
 

bceej

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Mar 1, 2013
2,453
3,209
Not unfounded but an odd time to make the decision. A few months’ grace for the new manager to tighten the screw and operate with a clean slate?
 

Johnny J

Not the Kiwi you need but the one you deserve
Aug 18, 2012
18,534
48,900
The club statement shows it's not just this season, it's the second half of last season too. Our form has been bottom five in the league for nearly a year. This is sad but overdue.
 

The Doc

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Dec 18, 2012
881
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I think part of the lack of criticism stems from not knowing exactly who is responsible for our failures in the transfer market in recent years. Our recruitment was awful for years leading up to the summer of 2018, to the extent that it is understandable why Poch would have put his foot down and demanded he not be given any more Njies, Nkoudous, Auriers etc. to work with.

So on the one hand you have years' worth of second-rate bargain bin punts that didn't work out (seems like a Levy problem), and on the other you have Poch's seeming stubbornness paralyzing us from bringing in new players at a crucial moment. It's all a huge mess and impossible to sort out who is responsible for what from the outside.

When the results start to suffer it's easy to blame Poch, thinking "Oh, he turned his nose up at the likes of Tielemans, Olmo and Berge, look where it's gotten us" without stopping to think about Levy's role in why he came to a point where he was so stubborn. There's definitely blame to be shared by both sides and emotion and lack of information make it easy to lash out at the manager, who's the face of the team.

Yep. It looks (from the outside) that our recruitment has operated as a "one for you, one for me" thing with too many voices involved. The signing of Clarke might be the latest example of that in practice (obv, I don't know. Just a hunch). Think Trix said no-one comes in without Poch's approval, and maybe it's always been the manager who has the veto? Moreover, are we buying players to fit a defined way of playing (like Liverpool seem to be doing now either through luck or intention) or is a significant amount opportunistic and/or a punt? Aurier, Moura and Sissoko seem to fit the opportunistic description. The two French players, n'jie and n'koudou and now Clarke being a punt. That said, we have also signed some brilliant players for relative peanuts, so something is working.
 

Guntz

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Aug 15, 2011
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Mourinho has to come in, this is no time to **** about.

These players need a serious kick up the backside.
 
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