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[ukdy]

Everybody needs good ___________________

..Except when they're originally from Plumstead

 

[JUSTINSIGNAL]

It's obviously been a trouble of ours over the last few years.

"Time to behave like a big club"

Spend 60m and 50m on players, bring in 2 of the worlds most decorated coaches.

Didn't work.

Why?

Cause you remove yourself from your values.

Look at United and how they started behaving after Ferguson.

Sign more expensive players, make impulsive decisions. React after what rivals do.

Fergie had a very clear standard and method, which made the club more ready.to compete.

Poch was getting us there.

Then we thought we became big boys cause we reached a CL final and the stadium.

A reminder that we hadn't won anything at that point still.

Ajax never stray from their methods and values. They evolve them but they don't sacrifice for success.

We did and we are paying for it.

Very good post

 

[pangtong]

Happy with that, I'd say he was my 3rd choice behind Nagelsmann and Slot.

Looking forward to seeing us play some fantastic football again.

 

[beats1]

Bit suprised this is still a worry for people.

Dembele
Eriksen
Walker
Vertonghen
Toby
Wanyama
Trippier
Son
Alli

All of these players came to us despite us fighting it out between 5th and 6th place.

All were pivotal to how we played and who we were. A team of upcomers looking to improve.

On the flip side

Ndombele
Lo celso
Perisic
Richarlison

All came with a reputation and wanted by bigger clubs.

Arsenal were down in 8th but still signing Gabriel, Saliba, etc

Worked wonders fot them.

Lastly the likes of Villa and Newcastle are going to hang around longer before players choose them over us.

I live in Brazil and everyone knows Spurs now. Newcastle are just starting to get a name but no-one talks about Villa.

That translates to players.

Besides I want us to get back to signing players like Alex Scott. Players looking to prove themselves and fit a system.

Whilst I dont disagree with you, we weren't competing with multiple different clubs for players then

Currently we dont even have a DoF or much of a recruitment team.

Also those players you listed as duds are the equivalent to the players as successes with the rate of inflation, the reason why the duds failed was because they didn't suit the tactics of the manager that came in, which is why a DoF is so important

Is that true?

Poch took Southampton from 14th to 8th. He did well there, changed the way they played, instiled a better culture and improved the team but it's hardly that much more impressive than what Ange has done? The debat around Poch when he joined was pretty much the same thing as we have now with Ange.

I think the fact of the matter is Poch was relatively untested when he took the Spurs job...you could see he had something about him, a good character, ability to motivate players and played attacking football. The Ange situation is not much different to be honest.

Not saying it means he will be the next Poch but just pointing out the managers who have done well for us have not necessarily had stellar CVs and the ones with stellar CVs have not done well for us.

You can't say this, the argument was similar but Poch had experience in the PL and La Liga for 4 years managing in the two best leagues in the world and still NEEDED a season to get through his ideas.

Ange, on the other hand has been managing for a long time, we have no evidence:
promoting youth players
improving young players
managing in the hardest leagues in Europe(any of them)
overachieving by the standard set by the board
Even doing well against equivalent teams in Europe
Working with a limited budget in Europe(Kevin Muscat just won the league in Japan with a limited budget but I cant say he has overachieved, I have no knowledge of that league)

This managerial appointment imo will either be a great appointment or be a big disaster that sets back the club years.

Levy has taken everyone for a ride, the fact he is still in a job with no pressure is scary and down to the fans accepting this

 

[glacierSpurs]

Putting Ange's capability aside, for all Levy's intention of hiring him thinking he's a yes man, I hope Levy will be awakened to a rude surprise if Ange is as what reports are saying in that he wants involvement in recruitment.

 

[Snarfalicious]

Sad day for the club

Man, fuck shit like this. A sad day for the club? Get a goddamn grip. A sad day would be relegation, a sad day would be appointing a total fucking asshole like Gattuso. It’s a sad day for you because you believe we should have appointed someone better than Ange. It’s not happening, and it’s just best you get over it, get behind the guy, and not drum on about how he couldn’t have been 1st, 2nd or 3rd choice. Shit is so tiresome.

 

[night-watchman]

Sad day for the club

Mate we get it you think its a bad appointment.

Let's put our money where our mouths are then as I think he is going to be fantastic...in the form of some sort of SC Donation bet?

 

[nigespurs]

He's magic you know
Ange Postecoglou

 

[beats1]

Scary logic in this thread,

We had 2 big name managers and they didn't succeed(Just overlook the CL qualification and cup final, sure)

So we are going to try something different and go for someone who has never managed in Europe outside of Scotland where he outspent his rival by 150% signing 24 players in 2 seasons

Thats one extreme to another

 

[Johnny J]

Not my first choice but can't deny the guy gives off very positive vibes and speaks extremely well. Will be great to have someone who really wants to be here and will give everything for us. And play the type of football we all want.

Hopefully he can be a positive force to knit things together behind the scenes, rather than Conte's rather divisive approach. Excited about seeing what he can do.

 

[THFCSPURS19]

Levy has taken everyone for a ride, the fact he is still in a job with no pressure is scary and down to the fans accepting this

I mean this isn't true. I'd say a significant proportion of people on here want Levy gone (including myself), but it seems if you don't blame Levy for every ill in the world then you're backing him.

 

[srups34]

Ah well there goes my £10000

 

[Timberwolf]

Looks like it’s Ange, then. Much like everyone else, he wasn’t my first, second or third choice but if he has any hope of succeeding, everyone needs to get behind him now. At least he plays attractive football and seems like a decent bloke. We’ve not been able to say that about a permanent manager since Poch.

Yeah if it does indeed get confirmed let's just get fully behind him and give him a proper chance.

I think that, unless we're in serious danger of relegation, we need to be really patient as fans (and the board too) and give Ange time to work. Whether you love the appointment or hate it, this guy is not another dead man walking like Nuno and he has proven that given time he can persevere, solve problems and unite teams and clubs.

We simply cannot afford to keep chopping and changing and even if next season is a bit of a struggle I think we need to trust in our appointment and give Ange time to make it work.

We might need to coin another term like "trust the process" that hasn't been tainted by those pricks up the road.

"Give it time, cobber"

 

[Rout-Ledge]

It’s the first time we’ve hired an attacking manager since poch in 2014 - nearly a decade ago. Finally.

 

[Spurs4CL]

Feels like a Phase 1 appointment in the grand scheme of things. Attacking football, likeable bloke, capable of sorting this mess out, reminds me of Martin Jol. The aim has to be that we don't lurch from one style of manager to the next. Keep signing managers who play good football and keep signing players suited for that style. He's inheriting players from Poch era, mourinho era, conte era , nuno era ,(approximately 33 senior players with no European football) so there's likely to be a cull of about 15 players this summer and 3 or 4 additions to start the rebuild. He signed 29 players in 2 years at celtic and won 5 out of 6 trophies so hopefully knows what he's doing.

Basically I've done the required mental gymnastics to get on board with some **** I've barely heard of

 

[glacierSpurs]

When people of similar vibes work together, I expect Son to be flying again.

 

[JUSTINSIGNAL]

“Recruitment process”

There was clearly a process of sorts. All the names short listed fitted a particular profile. Whether we got our first, second, third or fourth choice is irrelevant imo. If a candidate makes it onto a shortlist it means they fit the criteria for the job.

 

[anydange]

And what is wrong with entitlement?
Paying some of the highest prices in the league, to a club in the top ten wealthiest in Europe, which has been consistently in Europe for many years now, gives rise to a reasonable entitlement to appointing a manager that befits that status.

Not anymore. Fans need to lower their expectations as to where Spurs are at as a club. It's years away from competing properly with the rest of the "top 6" now.

As for ticket prices, not sure how that correlates with entitlement.

 

[Rout-Ledge]

Bearing in mind we have no DOF in place, I think this is pretty obviously a Scott Munn driven hire. It’s a bold move. Let’s hope it works.

 

[ajspurs]

Can't say I'm delighted, but it seems very close now I will try and focus on the positives. If I'm honest the fact that Mason had us having a go in the games he was in charge of (even if it didn't work out all the time) had me interested in watching us again, with the belief that I may enjoy it. This hadn't been felt for a few years and now with Ange Postecoglou I will go into matches with that same belief and enthusiasm, that I may actually be entertained and encouraged by the football on display.

It's not what I thought would be the 'most' that I'd like to see, it would be nice to put ourselves in a position where a strong league position and season in general would be easier to envisage under the management choice, but it's a start I guess and maybe a more back to basics, walking before we run approach won't be the worst thing.

I'm a little wary of how attractive a proposition we'll look under Ange, at least before a football has been kicked under his management, but hopefully it won't impact the level of players we look to bring in.