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TOMSPURS

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That is true that his stats this year in the league are better than his stats last season.

Although, he is still a way off the achievements of what Brendon Rodgers did for Celtic in 2016-2017 when he won the treble and was undefeated in domestic competition, winning 34 and drawing 4 of the league games.

It should be noted that Brendon took over a very dispirited club. The previous incumbent had left behind a bloated squad with low morale and little direction. However, Under Rodgers, the on-field play was also wonderful to watch, the players gelled together, youth players worked hard and the established players were revitalised. The form was consistently good and the play wonderful to watch. He also got the best out of players who were deemed finished such as Scott Brown.

The point in all this, is what Ange has achieved at Celtic isn't that remarkable. He's matched Lennon, but playing better football, but hasn't matched 'the invincibles' that was achieved by Brendon Rodgers.

None of this is an insight into whether he will be a success as THFC, but if he is going to become our manager we really need to lower the expectations based on what he has previously achieved.
Important to note Celtics closest challengers when Rodgers did the treble were Aberdeen......Rangers were in turmoil that season & finished about 40pts off in 3rd.
 

Tucker

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So he likes to use inverted wingbacks. I’ve not seen this discussed much on here, but we know Emerson is capable of tucking in and making a three in midfield, but where does this leave the likes of Porro, and Udogie?
 

Albertbarich

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So he likes to use inverted wingbacks. I’ve not seen this discussed much on here, but we know Emerson is capable of tucking in and making a three in midfield, but where does this leave the likes of Porro, and Udogie?
It was my concern with Slot too.

Could Porro be converted? He is certainly good on the ball. No idea about Udogie.
 

KaribYid

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So he likes to use inverted wingbacks. I’ve not seen this discussed much on here, but we know Emerson is capable of tucking in and making a three in midfield, but where does this leave the likes of Porro, and Udogie?

I think Porro has the technical ability to play as an inverted wingback. Pep wanted him at City in January to replace Cancelo who also played that role.
 

Ghost Hardware

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I wonder if Big Ange would like his future sorted before his holiday on Tuesday if possible.

If it was me I’d like it sorted so I could properly switch off rather than try and switch off whilst thinking about the possibilities.

We shall see 🤞
I think everyone will not just him, Celtic will want to know if they have to find a new manager and we will want to know if the search continues. Im sure he wont want to be on the phone every 10 mins discussing things.
 

riggi

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We aren't.

Some of our fans, however, have a strange superiority complex. Which, of course, has no basis in reality.

A little healthy skepticism is good. But the out right disrespect and vitriolic comments are outrageous. He's a good manager, on the rise, and won things at every club he's been at.

I’ve not read anything about him so don’t have an opinion either way but whenever I see fans coming out with we are too big for him etc, I instantly recoil.

The age of our legends that get brought on at half time are all you need to see to have an idea of how big and relevant we are in the modern game.
 

Tucker

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It was my concern with Slot too.

Could Porro be converted? He is certainly good on the ball. No idea about Udogie.

I think Porro has the technical ability to play as an inverted wingback. Pep wanted him at City in January to replace Cancelo who also played that role.
Would feel a bit of a waste of Porro’s crossing skills. Though I agree he’s definitely good enough on the ball. Harvey White might be a good shout for the left footed option.
 

E17yid

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Can someone explain why we are too good for this Celtic bloke?
Its not about being to good for him or anything (well maybe a bit but I don’t like that framing) he could be amazing for us or he could be a disastrous appointment and a load of shit in between. It’s more that his career trajectory, if he lands this job, is a bit of an unlikely one, or seems like that. You’d think someone with his CV looking to get into English football might be looking at a Championship club first but obviously more power to him if he lands the Spurs job, he’s obviously done enough of a good job at Celtic to attract our attention and obviously, as I’ve said, he could be great.

Having said that, we’re still like the 11th richest club in the world? And been a top 6 side in the richest, best league in the world for over a decade. I don’t think it’s unreasonable, seeing as most (if not all) clubs in similar positions or higher normally expect a certain level of experience when looking at their coaching appointments.
 

riggi

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Its not about being to good for him or anything (well maybe a bit but I don’t like that framing) he could be amazing for us or he could be a disastrous appointment and a load of shit in between. It’s more that his career trajectory, if he lands this job, is a bit of an unlikely one, or seems like that. You’d think someone with his CV looking to get into English football might be looking at a Championship club first but obviously more power to him if he lands the Spurs job, he’s obviously done enough of a good job at Celtic to attract our attention and obviously, as I’ve said, he could be great.

Having said that, we’re still like the 11th richest club in the world? And been a top 6 side in the richest, best league in the world for over a decade. I don’t think it’s unreasonable, seeing as most (of not all) clubs in similar positions or higher normally expect a certain level of experience when looking at their coaching appointments.

That’s a better way of putting it than some of the stuff I have read.

I don’t really buy into the Celtic massive club propaganda but I’m guessing that position requires an ability to be able to handle a hell of a lot of pressure whilst producing results. Not something to be totally taken for granted…
 

E17yid

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That’s a better way of putting it than some of the stuff I have read.

I don’t really buy into the Celtic massive club propaganda but I’m guessing that position requires an ability to be able to handle a hell of a lot of pressure whilst producing results. Not something to be totally taken for granted…
Yeah for sure. It’s a weird one as I wasn’t really sold on Slot at all but at least he came from a more respectable league and was young but my main problem with him was that he’s barely been a coach 5 mins but at least with this Ange guy is a solid experienced coach (but a bit old) it’s just in weak leagues. I guess you can’t have it all.

Well, there is a young German manager available who’s managed some pretty big clubs before but doesn’t seem to be a goer.
 

stormfly

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That is true that his stats this year in the league are better than his stats last season.

Although, he is still a way off the achievements of what Brendon Rodgers did for Celtic in 2016-2017 when he won the treble and was undefeated in domestic competition, winning 34 and drawing 4 of the league games.

It should be noted that Brendon took over a very dispirited club. The previous incumbent had left behind a bloated squad with low morale and little direction. However, Under Rodgers, the on-field play was also wonderful to watch, the players gelled together, youth players worked hard and the established players were revitalised. The form was consistently good and the play wonderful to watch. He also got the best out of players who were deemed finished such as Scott Brown.

The point in all this, is what Ange has achieved at Celtic isn't that remarkable. He's matched Lennon, but playing better football, but hasn't matched 'the invincibles' that was achieved by Brendon Rodgers.

None of this is an insight into whether he will be a success as THFC, but if he is going to become our manager we really need to lower the expectations based on what he has previously achieved.
My expectations can’t get any lower.
 

beats1

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I wanted Mourinho and Conte because I was fine with being absolute bastards. Slow, boring, vicious, irritating, cheating bastards. But the part that was supposed to come with that (winning stuff) never materialised, so I'll take Postecoglou if it means playing some nice stuff again.
You say this as if there isn't any other manager that plays attacking football
 

Ron Burgundy

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Its not about being to good for him or anything (well maybe a bit but I don’t like that framing) he could be amazing for us or he could be a disastrous appointment and a load of shit in between. It’s more that his career trajectory, if he lands this job, is a bit of an unlikely one, or seems like that. You’d think someone with his CV looking to get into English football might be looking at a Championship club first but obviously more power to him if he lands the Spurs job, he’s obviously done enough of a good job at Celtic to attract our attention and obviously, as I’ve said, he could be great.

Having said that, we’re still like the 11th richest club in the world? And been a top 6 side in the richest, best league in the world for over a decade. I don’t think it’s unreasonable, seeing as most (if not all) clubs in similar positions or higher normally expect a certain level of experience when looking at their coaching appointments.
All totally fair. And so if we can’t attract or won’t employ a top coach, where does the blame lie?
 

Aleks

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Because a combination of Mauricio Pochettino and Harry Kane gave ENIC a good few years of pretence that we can compete and whilst doing so enabled them to build the new entertainment complex, no sorry stadium that was supposed to let us compete with any team in the world.

So now the fanbase is wondering why we aren't competing with the best having been told for years that this is the end of the rainbow.

I want Ange as that was clearly all bollocks and he is a unifying personally who plays great football but I can see the issue when every non football part of the club is treated like the biggest in the world and the football side is the opposite.

Sorry long winded I know but I think it's more than fans being horrible. We have been taught were a big side and the optics of it don't scream big side.
As well we skipped over Nagelsman and Poch to come to this is also a major factor.

the fact that we aren't willing to be serious enough to prove to Nagelsman that we are aiming high enough stings.

the Ange appointment (if it happens) just feels like another one of our transfer sagas where we don't get the better player and settle for the cheap option. (This applies to slot too)
 

Tottenhamboy85

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So he likes to use inverted wingbacks. I’ve not seen this discussed much on here, but we know Emerson is capable of tucking in and making a three in midfield, but where does this leave the likes of Porro, and Udogie?
Porro coming inside of the left with his shot might work
 
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We aren't.

Some of our fans, however, have a strange superiority complex. Which, of course, has no basis in reality.

A little healthy skepticism is good. But the out right disrespect and vitriolic comments are outrageous. He's a good manager, on the rise, and won things at every club he's been at.

I'm glad you appreciate a little healthy skepticism because I checked your comment that he's won things at every club he's been at.

He hasn't.

There have been three clubs where, at least according to Wikipedia, he didn't win anything.

Still, those Spurs fans whose thinking has 'no basis in reality', what are they like, eh?
 
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