Next Manager Watch

[Mate]

I liked Jol's abbreviation (BMJ) but Ange's would be much better (BAP)

 

[WhiteStripe]

No.

We need to stop living in the past. He’s not Poch.

Alright miserable mabel, suns shining outside, go get some vitamin D.

 

[tony0379]

I liked Jol's abbreviation (BMJ) but Ange's would be much better (BAP)

BAP BAP Australiano

 

[Ghost Hardware]

It was my concern with Slot too.

Could Porro be converted? He is certainly good on the ball. No idea about Udogie.

Udogie will be okay as he's played CM before although he is much better wide, Porro I think will struggle tho. TBH both players strengths are very much in attack and we would not be making the most of their strengths if we invert them. Personally this is one of the things that concerns me about going for Ange in that we just don't have the players to fit his tactics. Enrique at least likes his full backs to sit high and wide like wingers which would suit them perfectly.

 

[$hoguN]

If there is going to be a new poll, I think we need to know how many SCers have Celtic supporting mates.

I mean I do, but I live in Cumbria and can see Dumfries from my window. I also wouldn’t listen to a thing they said as they all spout shit to a man

 

[beats1]

Can someone explain why we are too good for this Celtic bloke?

Make it sound it like we are too good for this Celtic bloke makes us sound like we believe in our exceptionalism

Aston Villa while fighting relegation got Emery, who took them back to the European spots and had previously won the EL
Wolverhampton while fighting relegation, got a manager who managed Real Madrid and Spain but people don't refer to him as a big name
Brighton have a manager who took Brighton to Europe and previously Sassulo to their highest position ever(at the time) before managing Shakhtar until the war
Slot was in the belief that he could keep Leeds up a couple of months ago

The club is a mess but no one can truly say the club believes Ange is the best guy for the job, they're doing it because he is likely to give them the least grief imo

Just a month ago, we were looking several other candidates

Here we are looking to get a manager with no experience in Europe outside of Celtic.

You have one of the best strikers in the world and instead of getting a top attacking manager, we are taking an unnecessary gamble on someone whose experience is mainly in Japan and Australia. But he's a top bloke who does good speeches and plays good football.

Im not a Poch fan but the fact we are going for Ange and didn't even approach Poch, with little furore. Is why the club get away with the poor performances with no accountability

Next season in terms of CV's and Experience, imo Wolves and Aston Villa would both have better managers suited to the PL than us

 

[Frozen_Waffles]

Can someone explain why we are too good for this Celtic bloke?

Sure, over the last 10 years we have established ourselves as one of the 'big 6'. This means we are generally in the champions league or at least Europe, next season marks the first time in a long time that we don't have European football.

Generally speaking teams from the top 6 in the Premier league have the best managers. Even top managers like Emery and Lopetegui have come to manage teams lower down the league.

To appoint a manager with no experience in the top 5 leagues in Europe neither as a manager or a player to a top premier league team is unprecedented.

People look at Ange and only see his Celtic team. I'd challenge anyone on here to actually say that they have watched his Japanese team. Maybe a few saw his Australian team. Even then it's not even close to PL standard.

Celtic (as has been mentioned in every other post) are basically in a two team (or perhaps even one) league. And the standard is very low.

Inverness getting to the final, would be like a league 2 side getting to the FA cup final. So Celtic vs ICT is probably similar to City vs Leyton Orient. That's the difference in the league.

If you are unsure of the standard CCV and Joe Hart are first team players there. If you just took standard of players alone, a similar job would be taking on the Spurs reserves.

Ange seems to be getting the job on the fact is he apparently likeable, plays good football and there is a hype around him.

There is nothing in his CV that suggests he should be near a top job. That's why people are saying that we are too good for him, because on paper we are.

It's a big risk, but with him generally taking on a rolling one year contract, I suppose we can sack him in six months if it fails.

It's like schrodingers manager, we have no idea if he'll be good or not, but blind optimism is the way of football.

If we do appoint him, it's going to take time for him to adapt and we won't give him the time.

If I was Ange, I'd put a clause in my contract to say if I'm sacked within 8 months you need to pay me 10m (or something like that).

 

[RuskyM]

You have one of the best strikers in the world and instead of getting a top attacking manager, we are taking an unnecessary gamble on someone whose experience is mainly in Japan and Australia. But he's a top bloke who does good speeches and plays good football.

Im not a Poch fan but the fact we are going for Ange and didn't even approach Poch, with little furore. Is why the club get away with the poor performances with no accountability

Next season in terms of CV's and Experience, imo Wolves and Aston Villa would both have better managers suited to the PL than us

You can either say you want a manager who attacks or you can say you want Emery/Lopetegui.

And every appointment is a gamble. We know this because we appointed Conte and Mourinho and got worse.

 

[fletch82]

You can either say you want a manager who attacks or you can say you want Emery/Lopetegui.

And every appointment is a gamble. We know this because we appointed Conte and Mourinho and got worse.

Did we get worse though or did they over achieve with the players at there disposal ???
I would say going by our form after conte run away suggests they did as well as could be expected even if we hated the snooze fest they served up

 

[Tucker]

I mean I do, but I live in Cumbria and can see Dumfries from my window. I also wouldn’t listen to a thing they said as they all spout shit to a man

Denzel?

 

[jbstarr14]

Talking about Celtic and Rangers' treble 'achievements' playing in a league where the other teams are;

The Dog and Duck
The Red Lion
The Spread Eagle
The Pig and Whistle
The White Horse
The Mason's Arms
The Plough
The Bell
The Royal Oak
The Kings Arms

 

[RuskyM]

Did we get worse though or did they over achieve with the players at there disposal ???
I would say going by our form after conte run away suggests they did as well as could be expected even if we hated the snooze fest they served up

I can't understand how we can praise Emery and Lopetegui for what they did in adapting to/with their team and then argue Conte/Mourinho did all they could despite having more money and better players.

 

[jbstarr14]

Can someone explain why we are too good for this Celtic bloke?

Nope. Just a mind numbing repetition of the same rhetoric with fuck-all to back it up.

Oh, hang on - deluded entitlement might cover it, now that I give it some thought…

 

[Colonel_Klinck]

It's been reported that he wants a long term project, and he's nothing like them in either personality or playing style.

What has he done outside of Barca when it comes to club football? We aren't Barca, we are MILES from Barca and especially prime Barca. We've had two superstar managers and they have both failed. Repeating the same thing again and again and expecting a different result is insanity.

 

[mattspur1]

Can't help but think appointing Poch would have given us the best chance of keeping Kane.

 

[TheChosenOne]

I mean I do, but I live in Cumbria and can see Dumfries from my window. I also wouldn’t listen to a thing they said as they all spout shit to a man

Our coach stopped in Dumfries on the way back from Dundalk in 1982.. v.long story, too long for here. The bread shop in the high st had just opened and 40 or so Spurs fans cleared out every pie and cake before the locals even got there LOL

 

[SargeantMeatCurtains]

Nagelsmann in advanced talks to join PSG according to Lequipe. For those of you who were continuing to hold any hope.

 

[jbstarr14]

Can't help but think appointing Poch would have given us the best chance of keeping Kane.

Hang on - didn’t we hear that HK was, if not instrumental, then certainly contributory in Poch getting sacked?

 

[Metalhead]

Can't help but think appointing Poch would have given us the best chance of keeping Kane.

I don't think that's an unreasonable point - the only thing is that at this stage of his career, does he have an appetite to embark on a new project whoever the coach is?

 

[mil1lion]

Our form at the end of the season is reminiscent of the start Ramos had before he got sacked. We got a manager late in his career who brought a feel good factor. He never managed one of the top clubs before but had a great run. Here's hoping similar happens this time.

I would be surprised if Ange plays inverted wing backs with us. It sounds like he knows how to adapt to teams and play different systems. He will need width and our best wide options are going to be from the likes of Porro and Udogie. Our wide forwards play inside instead so I think he goes with what we have.