Next Manager Watch

[PLTuck]

I love an underdog, bring on the big Aussie.

Something that occurred to me, why are we still being consulted by Paratici? Why the hell would we hire Scott Munn and then appoint a Paratici pick as Luis Enrique seems to be? Talk about stepping on Munns toes before hes even started.

Basically, as long as it isn't Brendan Rodgers I don't really give a shit who it is if they play front foot positive football and have a good vibe about them.

 

[El_Duderino]

This thread is genuinely exhausting to read through. I find myself scrolling through every post in a desperate attempt to see any concrete news or itk. All I see is people repeating the same bollocks over and over ad infinitum...

I need a break from this forum

 

[the yid]

We paid Conte an obscenely high wage so not really a valid comment.

Did we pay compensation to a club or free agents?

 

[JCRD]

I think this theory is a little over-blown. Arsenal's manager obviously knew the league, but had never managed in his life before taking a massive job; Newcastle transformed their fortunes with smart recruitment led by a manager most of us (me included) would have turned our noses up a year ago. Brighton got into Europe by taking a bit of a risk in De Zerbi etc.

Obviously there's a lot of nuance in all these arguments, but I don't think we should be worried about being seen to go for a top six manager, whatever that may be.

Yeah perhaps youre right that it is an overblown theory and not much of a foundation to it. Top six manager wasnt the right phrase but Ange isnt the young up and coming kind of manager expected... Amorim, Slot, Nagelsmann (still young and up and coming), id even class Poch in that category.

Essentially we have chosen Ange over Poch.

I can see why people will think Ange is underwhelming given the names out there but im also intrigued and prepared to give him time. The PL though isnt forgiving and is more competitive now than ever (between 2nd and like 9th)

 

[mil1lion]

It all comes down to ambition. Nagelsmann will want to challenge for titles but to do that needs big money spent. Similar to what Conte was asking for. That's why we aren't going for him. Instead we want someone to steady the ship and keep us competing for European places.

Basically we need a takeover before we go for a Nagelsmann. For now we have to make do with someone willing to work on a budget. Poch and Redknapp did it well, others not so well.

Nagelsmann is who we want because he represents what we want to become. Someone like Ange is who we need because in reality that change isn't happening under Levy. I feel Luis Enrique kind of fits in somewhere between, needs less of a rebuild but still a big name. Not sure his ambition level though, he may be happy to keep us competing for top 4 unlike Conte who was very insistent on titles. Ange would relish the step up and be happy to try and overachieve.

End of the day we're still very much underdogs. Neither Newcastle or Brighton have the most decorated managers and have finished above us. We need to follow in their footsteps rather than try to be one of the big boys. We operate like the smaller clubs.

 

[Yiddo100]

Get Ange out of his boring Grey suits and into our Hugo boss clobber and we’re cooking.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

Anyone that thinks Postecoglu is a good appointment is kidding themselves. Not excited by this at all.

Sorry but it seems as if for some that its Naglesmann or = I'm throwing a strop and not excited.

I really don't think many people on here actually know much about Postecoglu and his style of play, his background, his personality and what a good fit he could be for us, they’re just taking one look seeing he’s the Celtic manager in the SPL in an ‘easy’ league and writing him off as a ‘bad appointment’, total bs.

Also does it matter how 'excited' some of you are about the appointment?
No-one was particularly excited about Poch but look how well that turned out.

I'll say it one more time, the most important thing is if the new Manager is a good fit for our club and what philosophy and DNA and style of play we want to have moving forwards.

For me sure Naglesmann or Slot would've probably been ideal, Gallardo perhaps but he is a real unknown and risk and I can also see why some would've liked Poch back but outside of that, Postecoglu or L.Enrique are by far two of the best next possible options in terms of a good fit for what we need and people who say otherwise frankly likely don't know much about these Managers or haven't learnt lessons from the past 3 years if you're just pining for the biggest most 'exciting' name.

Aside from Naglesmann or Slot, who on Earth would you actually be excited about then or is every single option being poo pooed?

 

[delawarespur]

At the very least none of us should be claiming the sky is falling until we actually see Ange or anyone else manage us for a good chunk of time. Currently the club’s structure is fucked and there will never be long term stability with how we’re currently run, but as we saw with Poch, a good manager can make all that seem insignificant. Again, not ideal and not how to run a club, but could lead to success and paper over institutional cracks for quite a while.

 

[E17yid]

They all seem pretty average to me but I know fuck all.

I don’t know why everyone was getting excited about a slot either tbh. It’s JN or liquidate the club for me.

 

[Karol]

Thats 4 managers in a row 0 compensation

Until we sack them

 

[lobob8]

IMO you can't take much from Ange's connection with the City Group. Yes those are nice quotes from Pep and all but you wouldn't have wanted Ange right from Yokohama would you? No, obviously not. You also wouldn't care about any praise for the likes of Eugenio Corini (Palermo), Patrick Kisnorbo (Troyes), Des Buckingham (Mumbai), Michel (Girona), Kevin Muscat (Yokohama), Rado Vidosic (Melbourne), or Vieira, Ronny Deila or Nick Cushing (New York) would you?

 

[worcestersauce]

So if we get the Celtic manager and as everyone says he plays attacking football will we be able to shout
ATTACK, ATTACK
ATTACKATTACKATTACK!
I miss that.

 

[mil1lion]

I guess if we're going down the more experienced route with Ange or Luis Enrique it could be good to keep Mason as number 2. Rather than a long term young manager get a more experienced one and keep Mason developing alongside them as potentially the long term replacement. As long as they actually last long enough that is, could maybe see Mason evolve as the young up and comer in a couple of years. Get someone with experience to turn the club around and get back to our principles. Maybe then creates a better platform for Mason rather than the mess we are in right now.

 

[ARMASPUR]

I see some say that fans don’t want Ange due to snobbery. For me, it’s nothing to do with snobbery. I don’t believe he has done anything to prove that he is ready for this job. People are underestimating how poor Scottish football is. Rangers have also been awful and need a rebuild. That aside , Rangers have actually won more points than Celtic from Beale came in as Rangers manager. More worryingly is when I watched Celtic get totally ripped to shreds in the Championships league on multiple occasions and there seems to be no plan B .

 

[Jaddas]

No disrespect to Ange, but the Scottish league is the 11th strongest league in the world and is a 2 horse league. Think the 9th richest club should be aiming higher. A lot higher. This is all about Levy wanting to do the bear minimum and not relinquish control.

 

[beats1]

It all comes down to ambition. Nagelsmann will want to challenge for titles but to do that needs big money spent. Similar to what Conte was asking for. That's why we aren't going for him. Instead we want someone to steady the ship and keep us competing for European places.

Basically we need a takeover before we go for a Nagelsmann. For now we have to make do with someone willing to work on a budget. Poch and Redknapp did it well, others not so well.

Nagelsmann is who we want because he represents what we want to become. Someone like Ange is who we need because in reality that change isn't happening under Levy. I feel Luis Enrique kind of fits in somewhere between, needs less of a rebuild but still a big name. Not sure his ambition level though, he may be happy to keep us competing for top 4 unlike Conte who was very insistent on titles. Ange would relish the step up and be happy to try and overachieve.

End of the day we're still very much underdogs. Neither Newcastle or Brighton have the most decorated managers and have finished above us. We need to follow in their footsteps rather than try to be one of the big boys. We operate like the smaller clubs.

Nagelsmann unlike Conte has a history of working with a limited budget

Don't get it twisted managers don't want to come here not because of our budgets. Its because Levy won't let them spend money on who they feel is necessary

Levy thinks he knows what's better for the manager than the manager themselves and the instances when he's right, inflate him(traore for £45m)

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

I see some say that fans don’t want Ange due to snobbery. For me, it’s nothing to do with snobbery. I don’t believe he has done anything to prove that he is ready for this job. People are underestimating how poor Scottish football is. Rangers have also been awful and need a rebuild. That aside , Rangers have actually won more points than Celtic from Beale came in as Rangers manager. More worryingly is when I watched Celtic get totally ripped to shreds in the Championships league on multiple occasions and there seems to be no plan B .

You say people underestimate how poor Scottish football is then use Celtic struggling in the as a stick to beat Big Ange with…

 

[bceej]

Big name manager.
SC type 1: we are massive this is who we need
SC type 2: Levy doesn’t know what he’s doing - where’s the blueprint?

Lower reputation manager:
SC type 1: we are massive, this is an insult to us
SC type 2: Levy still doesn’t know what he’s doing - he’s the blueprint to build our club anyway

SC type 3: we have no director of football and the cycle will never end
SC type 4: all choices are Nuno

All: Levy has undermined every decision the club has and will make since the interim debacle, and arguably since Nuno-gate. Just make it stop.

 

[glacierSpurs]

It all comes down to ambition. Nagelsmann will want to challenge for titles but to do that needs big money spent. Similar to what Conte was asking for. That's why we aren't going for him. Instead we want someone to steady the ship and keep us competing for European places.

This. And that's seriously frustrating. How does a club this size actually not keen on winning by turning away from Nagelsmann ffs! Levy is really a fraud for saying he's a fan and would like to win something for us.

 

[Oh Teddy Teddy]

Yeah perhaps youre right that it is an overblown theory and not much of a foundation to it. Top six manager wasnt the right phrase but Ange isnt the young up and coming kind of manager expected... Amorim, Slot, Nagelsmann (still young and up and coming), id even class Poch in that category.

Essentially we have chosen Ange over Poch.

I can see why people will think Ange is underwhelming given the names out there but im also intrigued and prepared to give him time. The PL though isnt forgiving and is more competitive now than ever (between 2nd and like 9th)

Agreed entirely, and I do think it makes the decision appear worse – while the likes of Nagelsmann, Amorim are still out there, and we've seemingly ignored Pochettino and god knows what with Slot.

I don't compare him to Nuno at all in terms of football, but you're suddenly at a massive disadvantage when everyone knows you were a reasonable way down the managerial shortlist.