Next Manager Watch

[dirtyh]

willing to give anyone a chance tbf. we're such a shitshow it's not a job for the faint of heart that's for sure.

would be quite excited to see what vk could offer but same old story, whoever it is needs to be given at time, even if we're initially worse than we are now. the whole structure needs to change and that isn't going to happen overnight.

 

[spurs mental]

I fully believe the toxic fanbase will change when the toxic anti-football-no-change-system is gone.

I'd still say it is a very attractive open position for most managers out there, especially for up and coming managers. They won't find a better paid and bigger job with these facilities and as it was mentioned, if they fail it is easy to put the blame on the club rather than on them.

That requires a semblance of patients. Something this fanbase has rarely had, not even with Poch when he started out. We are an impatient bunch. Football fans are in general.

I know some people say that if we are playing attractive football they'll give it time but it only takes 2 or 3 defeats on the bounce for that opinion to change.

Winning matches is what ultimately counts for everyone so I don't fully buy the "I just want to see attractive front football and see we are trying even if we lose" thing.

 

[Timberwolf]

If it is to be Kompany. I just hope Levy backs with players who can play his passing game.

I think any new signings would certainly need to fit the bill, but I'd hope and expect to see a more possession-based manager to use the more technical players in our squad. Less PEH more Bissouma/Sarr, etc.

I don't think our squad is quite as technically bereft as people think - it's more that they've been conditioned to play a very specific brand of football built around rigid passing patterns with little to no support or passing options in the midfield.

While we'd certainly need a few signings (CB, GK, CAM) I think the likes of Bentancur, Kane, Kulu, Romero, Bissouma, Sarr and Porro would all make a pretty smooth transition to a more technical, possession-based style of play. It's the likes of PEH, Rich, Son and Royal that I think would struggle most (although I still think Son and Rich would both look better than they do at the moment tbh). And obviously Lloris and Sanchez, but they both need replacing regardless.

 

[Trix]

I fully believe the toxic fanbase will change when the toxic anti-football-no-change-system is gone.

I'd still say it is a very attractive open position for most managers out there, especially for up and coming managers. They won't find a better paid and bigger job with these facilities and as it was mentioned, if they fail it is easy to put the blame on the club rather than on them.

If it was just aimed at the team I'd be inclined to agree. Fact is the toxicity has been aimed at individuals as much as the collective. Have a bad game/run of games despite putting the effort in and get booed. It's not a good look to any potential incomings either is it, managers or players.

 

[robin09]

Slot beating PSV and Ajax to the title is pretty impressive. As well as a deep run in the Europa. Never heard of him before we fired Conte, but I'd be happy to see him get the job.

 

[Timberwolf]

That requires a semblance of patients. Something this fanbase has rarely had, not even with Poch when he started out. We are an impatient bunch. Football fans are in general.

I know some people say that if we are playing attractive football they'll give it time but it only takes 2 or 3 defeats on the bounce for that opinion to change.

Winning matches is what ultimately counts for everyone so I don't fully buy the "I just want to see attractive front football and see we are trying even if we lose" thing.

I mean you're absolutely right in the sense that if the results are consistently shit the fans will start kicking off regardless of the style of play.

I think a huge reason behind the discontent among the fan-base at the moment is borne of 4 years of watching (largely) shit football, though. Everyone is just thoroughly fed up.

If a new manager comes in and the results are a bit iffy but there are strong signs we're moving in the right direction and we have some good performances and wins to cheer about, I think the fans will cut the manager some slack as it will be the first time we've played on the front-foot for years.

 

[KingNick]

If it was just aimed at the team I'd be inclined to agree. Fact is the toxicity has been aimed at individuals as much as the collective. Have a bad game/run of games despite putting the effort in and get booed. It's not a good look to any potential incomings either is it, managers or players.

Gooners fans were booing their own before this season (Guendozi, Tavares, Mari, Pepe). Man Utd fans similarly. Didn't seem to affect their incomings.

Players and managers look at situations and think, a player/manager must be getting booed because of their own performances. They don't think it will happen to them or the club is necessarily toxic.

Give us a new manager and potential signings would look at that plus the money, stadium, training ground and fact we are consistently near the top of the league.

 

[THFCjosh]

I'd expect because his main objective wouldn't be to avoid the drop, and he'd get a massive pay increase from what Burnley could and would pay him. There is no point bringing in any manager that doesn't have the belief/arrogance that he's capable of turning our current lot around ,as there isn't going to be a massive turn over of our current playing squad, and as bad as some of this lot have been the priority still has to be on the whole moving on the players currently out on loan first.

It's obviously a free hit for any up and coming manager. If he fails then it's because two of the worlds most decorated managers were right and we are completely broken, but if he achieves something then he's done what the great Antonio Conte and Jose Mourinho could not. What he's done with Burnley will be more than enough credit in the bank to see him straight into another job if he can't succeed with us, and the narrative will be "of course he failed, it's Tottenham".

I'm more than happy to have any manager that plays good football, Kompany included. However, if he succeeds at Tottenham, obviously a big if! Aren't we just setting him up for a move to City after Pep leaves? Surely that completely negates the point of having a young manage to start a rebuild as he would only be there a 2/3 years before moving on?

 

[Albertbarich]

I'm more than happy to have any manager that plays good football, Kompany included. However, if he succeeds at Tottenham, obviously a big if! Aren't we just setting him up for a move to City after Pep leaves? Surely that completely negates the point of having a young manage to start a rebuild as he would only be there a 2/3 years before moving on?

Any manager we employ is potentially just setting them up for City of 5 or 6 others because they're richer than us

 

[Rosco1984]

If it was just aimed at the team I'd be inclined to agree. Fact is the toxicity has been aimed at individuals as much as the collective. Have a bad game/run of games despite putting the effort in and get booed. It's not a good look to any potential incomings either is it, managers or players.

I do think the sanchez booing is more a message for the manager than the player but it still shouldn't happen and I wouldnt do it as its always going to hurt the player more. Its more the frustration with the constant negative decisions boiling over. Seriously sticking with 3 at the back that doesn't work for us even when all of our left sided CBs are injured its mental at this stage. Constantly playing average at best defenders ahead of decent attacking players who cant get a look in just to stick with the dullest style imaginable this is hell at the moment.

 

[Beefyboy]

Oh man. So we're now honestly at the stage where we think a young Championship manager would turn us down. Behave!

 

[Trix]

I do think the sanchez booing is more a message for the manager than the player but it still shouldn't happen and I wouldnt do it as its always going to hurt the player more. Its more the frustration with the constant negative decisions boiling over. Seriously sticking with 3 at the back that doesn't work for us even when all of our left sided CBs are injured its mental at this stage. Constantly playing average at best defenders ahead of decent attacking players who cant get a look in just to stick with the dullest style imaginable this is hell at the moment.

As I've said before, I don't think changing the system makes much difference at this stage.

 

[jazz15c]

Players have limitations, granted, and will often try their best and come up short. Booing them to the point of moving them to tears is nothing short of shameful.

Ideal for the opposition fans though; they don't need to jeer or boo our players as we're doing it all for them. How can that ever be helpful to our players??

Fantastic 'support'

 

[Beefyboy]

As I've said before, I don't think changing the system makes much difference at this stage.

I am inclined to agree. In order to change a system you have to have a manager who knows how to do it. Do people really think Stellini has free flowing attacking football in his locker but instead is opting to stick with this one. It's the only system he's used for the last 7 years or something!

 

[Styopa]

Toxic?

Nope not for me

Were just the same as any other fanbase, actually we're really mild compared to most.

Which fanbase isn't toxic? It's usually the clubs that are doing well, funny that . I mean Kompanys current club were flying anti black life matters banners above the ground during games in lockdown if we're talking toxic.

I keep saying 'nobody hates Tottenham like Tottenham fans' and it's true. People on here write off the whole team, every good thing we have and now the fanbase. It's mad. To use a wrestling analogy remember when Vince brought in the NWO and said he needed to Inject the poison? That's what I feel like we have done with Mourinho and Conte. It's been gaslighting into large sections of the fanbase convincing us that little old Tottenham are worthless. It's nonsense.

The facilities are second to none, he won't have any better training space or an arena to compete in. Any manager coming would likely be one of the top five paid in the world, we have the England captain, France captain, world cup winners, best Asian player, internationals everywhere , a decent transfer budget too.. on top of that were in London, playing in the richest league in the world, consistent top six finishers in it and a huge profile around the world. The only thing Burnley can offer is the comfort of being able to fail.

We have problems, we have a chairman who is struggling (but football is full of those), yeah we have some idiot fans, who doesn't? But don't lose sight of what an amazing club we are.

Too many people here can't, won't or don't remember what a difference a manager can make, so they take the proclamations of Conte and Mourinho as gospel.

Some fans are too young to remember a time before Poch or have only followed the club since around the time of Poch. So all those fans have experienced is a somewhat protracted decline. They have seen these superstar coaches come in and fail, so naturally, they blame the common thread, which is the club, the players and the fans, because they have never experienced a new manager coming in and transforming the club. Conte seemed like he could do that but proved to be a false dawn, making everyone cynical.

We badly need someone who will come in and lift the mood of the place and make us all feel good about following Spurs again. I think some fans will be amazed what is possible under the right coach.

 

[-Afri-Coy-]

If it is to be Kompany. I just hope Levy backs with players who can play his passing game.

IMO Levy isn't going to provide Kompany with 50% of what he needs, let alone full backing.

He will get 2-3 players that fit his system and be expected to deliver just like JM and Conte before him.

I will be truly shocked if he does get full backing, but I do believe he will be able to get more out of our current crop, especially the younger, hungrier players we have.

Sarr, Kulusevski, Udogie, Bentancur, Skipp, Bissouma etc will be given the chances they need to develop.

 

[spursfan77]

Ally Gold saying we don’t currently have a leading candidate according to the club.

Of course we don't. That's the most believable stance so far. It is exactly how we operate and go about things. I've said it for weeks, we won't appoint anyone till June at the earliest. Levy doesn't even know who the manager is yet, so if anyone says that they do know, well, you can take your own view on that. We might be sounding out people, but to say we've identified who we want and will get him, I just don't see it.

 

[TPdYID]

Surely that completely negates the point of having a young manage to start a rebuild as he would only be there a 2/3 years before moving on?

2/3 years is a dogs-age in football terms. If you're expecting a Ferguson / Wenger type dynasty - dream on.

Football management is the definition of short-termism.

 

[-Afri-Coy-]

Toxic?

Nope not for me

Were just the same as any other fanbase, actually we're really mild compared to most.

Which fanbase isn't toxic? It's usually the clubs that are doing well, funny that . I mean Kompanys current club were flying anti black life matters banners above the ground during games in lockdown if we're talking toxic.

I keep saying 'nobody hates Tottenham like Tottenham fans' and it's true. People on here write off the whole team, every good thing we have and now the fanbase. It's mad. To use a wrestling analogy remember when Vince brought in the NWO and said he needed to Inject the poison? That's what I feel like we have done with Mourinho and Conte. It's been gaslighting into large sections of the fanbase convincing us that little old Tottenham are worthless. It's nonsense.

The facilities are second to none, he won't have any better training space or an arena to compete in. Any manager coming would likely be one of the top five paid in the world, we have the England captain, France captain, world cup winners, best Asian player, internationals everywhere , a decent transfer budget too.. on top of that were in London, playing in the richest league in the world, consistent top six finishers in it and a huge profile around the world. The only thing Burnley can offer is the comfort of being able to fail.

We have problems, we have a chairman who is struggling (but football is full of those), yeah we have some idiot fans, who doesn't? But don't lose sight of what an amazing club we are.

Not an argument, but universally Spurs fans are disliked by most other fans around the world.

We are considered entitled and toxic, but we haven't got the achievements to back it up.

Don't ask me why, I'm a sweet heart but it's pretty common.

 

[-Afri-Coy-]

Of course we don't. That's the most believable stance so far. It is exactly how we operate and go about things.

That's one thing we are consistent with, having absolutely no idea what we're doing as a club.