Next Manager Watch

[cliff jones]

thanks to our most insightful posters for the lift of spirits!

I reckon Levy meets salary expectations, but underwhelms on budget for new players- and is likely to give a much lower budget number for the likely scenario outside the CL. I don't think this will be enough to persuade him, or any other A listers.

Our best hope remains a B/C list attack-minded project manager.

 

[rossdapep]

I've seen a lot of people stating that Nagelsmann is believed to be arrogant which I'm really not sure is true, certainly after what I have just watched.

I watched a couple of Bayern sessions where he spent the time giving non-stop instructions, encouragement and praise. Especially to Ryan Gravenberch which was in English and very clear from a tactical perspective - so no worries there

Then I saw this video which delves into the kind of person he is - a lot of humour, empathic and very intelligent.

I recommend people watch this one


Lastly I saw an interview in English after Leipzig beat Atletico and he came across very well. Smiled and seemed very humble.

I think, like a lot of things, it'll likely have been blown out of proportion and him falling out with the older Bayern players has been nothing more than a power struggle. Which is always gonna happen when you have a very young coach who is fill of ideas and ambition go to a big club who don't like to have the furniture moved.

 

[ButchCassidy]

Prob in the minority, but I think signing him now to start in the summer would be the best option for everyone involved. Have to think long term. Give him time to refresh. Space to analyze our performances.

I just worry that we’d just be throwing him from one stressful situation into the other.

Not concerned if Mason and more experienced back room staff get the caretaker gig. Especially in terms of how the players will respond. This would be hugely different from the Jose debacle. As the squad knows who will be their next manager and they are all being carefully scrutinized from afar. So, if they want to stay, they need to make a favorable impression.

I’m also not too fussed as I just think it’s pretty unlikely, given our current form and the turmoil in the clubhouse, that any manager gets us top 4.

 

[rossdapep]

Prob in the minority, but I think signing him now to start in the summer would be the best option for everyone involved. Have to think long term. Give him time to refresh. Space to analyze our performances.

I just worry that we’d just be throwing him from one stressful situation into the other.

Not concerned if Mason and more experienced back room staff get the caretaker gig. Especially in terms of how the players will respond. This would be hugely different from the Jose debacle. As the squad knows who will be their next manager and they are all being carefully scrutinized from afar. So, if they want to stay, they need to make a favorable impression.

Totally.

Id rather him come in where things feel fresher (summer preseason) and with less expectation.

I honestly am not arsed about CL this year. I think whoever comes in is going to have to wipe the slate clean a bit and take time to identify who isn't part of the new Spurs to move forward.

Feels like constantly hovering is preventing us from kicking on.

 

[jay2040]

im 50+ and unfortunately i dont

Disagree. If you have got to 50 and still supporting Spurs... then loyalty is in your blood and glass if probably half full!

 

[jay2040]

Ladies and gentlemen! If any of you think that any scenario other than Mason taking charge until the end of the season is going to happen, you can't have supported spurs for long.

Let's face it, Mason will be in charge, then we'll get whoever is left over in the summer managerial merry-go-round.

Levy can't scratch his arse without having to think about it for a month or so first.

I'm sorry for my pessimist attitude, but spurs have finally broken me! I'm now a realist

If JN signs and says he will come in summer then Ryan is ok to manage as is short term.
The footballing gods have been kind to us and I think the sacking and timing is fate, its meant to be....

 

[djhotspur]

I've seen a lot of people stating that Nagelsmann is believed to be arrogant which I'm really not sure is true, certainly after what I have just watched.

I watched a couple of Bayern sessions where he spent the time giving non-stop instructions, encouragement and praise. Especially to Ryan Gravenberch which was in English and very clear from a tactical perspective - so no worries there

Then I saw this video which delves into the kind of person he is - a lot of humour, empathic and very intelligent.

I recommend people watch this one


Lastly I saw an interview in English after Leipzig beat Atletico and he came across very well. Smiled and seemed very humble.

I think, like a lot of things, it'll likely have been blown out of proportion and him falling out with the older Bayern players has been nothing more than a power struggle. Which is always gonna happen when you have a very young coach who is fill of ideas and ambition go to a big club who don't like to have the furniture moved.

Changed from a back 3 to a back 4 at half time to change the game and shore up midfield.
You son of a bitch I’m in

 

[Sum Monsterism]

Changed from a back 3 to a back 4 at half time to change the game and sure up midfield.
You son of a bitch I’m in

shore are

 

[nedley]

I think you've misread it or I have. There have been loads of names put forward including Galtier so depending who you talk to they'll have a different name to give you.

As for Naglesmann my understanding is that if he agrees to come be it now(preferably) or in the Summer he's the one. If he says he needs time to consider his options we move on asap.

That's exactly how it should be.

 

[nedley]

Top 4 would be a big challenge for him at this point, however good he is - and could start with a failure…

Imo I hope the club don't think of it as a failure. Not after the season we are having. I really hope he comes in now to push for top 4. Surely he'd want that if he's the man for the longer term.

If top 4 isn't achieved then so be it. We continue as normal just like Arsenal have done.

 

[Ghost Hardware]

Prob in the minority, but I think signing him now to start in the summer would be the best option for everyone involved. Have to think long term. Give him time to refresh. Space to analyze our performances.

I just worry that we’d just be throwing him from one stressful situation into the other.

Not concerned if Mason and more experienced back room staff get the caretaker gig. Especially in terms of how the players will respond. This would be hugely different from the Jose debacle. As the squad knows who will be their next manager and they are all being carefully scrutinized from afar. So, if they want to stay, they need to make a favorable impression.

From our side I think one can certainly see the benefit but again I’m just not sure why he would agree.

Looking at it from his perspective, why tie yourself down now. He’s probably still going to be processing what just happened as you suggest and may well want to take time to recalibrate before making any long term decisions. Further more I think he’d think there would be more options available to him come summer even if Spurs isn’t one of them.

Im not saying it won’t happen, but unless he has a real hard on for us (which he may considering we talked to him twice in the past) or Levy really offers him a deal too good turn down I would think it’s unlikely he commits now for the summer. It just doesn’t make much sense from his point of view.

 

[nedley]

Prob in the minority, but I think signing him now to start in the summer would be the best option for everyone involved. Have to think long term. Give him time to refresh. Space to analyze our performances.

I just worry that we’d just be throwing him from one stressful situation into the other.

Not concerned if Mason and more experienced back room staff get the caretaker gig. Especially in terms of how the players will respond. This would be hugely different from the Jose debacle. As the squad knows who will be their next manager and they are all being carefully scrutinized from afar. So, if they want to stay, they need to make a favorable impression.

You make some wonderful points there ol bean.

Great Post.

 

[Scot-Spur]

Realistically what other jobs are going to be available in the summer? I can’t see him managing in Italy or Germany.

That realistically leaves Spain, EPL and then PSG?

I can seem him being slightly reserved if PSG or Madrid want him after what has just happened. He is still extremely young for a manager so might want to build again.

In the EPL everyone bar Chelsea seems to be pretty locked for a manager in all honesty. They worry me but then if he fires Potter for Nagelsmann who’s to say he won’t do the same again?

Overall I think we are a good option. Good infrastructure, great location and some really talented players that are underachieving. He could get the fans on board pretty quickly and get the buzz back around the place.

 

[mdharris]

I've seen a lot of people stating that Nagelsmann is believed to be arrogant which I'm really not sure is true, certainly after what I have just watched.

I watched a couple of Bayern sessions where he spent the time giving non-stop instructions, encouragement and praise. Especially to Ryan Gravenberch which was in English and very clear from a tactical perspective - so no worries there

Then I saw this video which delves into the kind of person he is - a lot of humour, empathic and very intelligent.

I recommend people watch this one


Lastly I saw an interview in English after Leipzig beat Atletico and he came across very well. Smiled and seemed very humble.

I think, like a lot of things, it'll likely have been blown out of proportion and him falling out with the older Bayern players has been nothing more than a power struggle. Which is always gonna happen when you have a very young coach who is fill of ideas and ambition go to a big club who don't like to have the furniture moved.

Thanks for posting the video. Very interesting. In terms of his character, it’s encouraging that he is a well-liked person, and has shown leadership, character and humor consistently from his playing days. He seems to be getting suggestions that he’s awkward and I’m not sure that’s the case. He doesn’t strike me as an AVB type in that sense.

 

[Ron Burgundy]

Realistically what other jobs are going to be available in the summer? I can’t see him managing in Italy or Germany.

That realistically leaves Spain, EPL and then PSG?

I can seem him being slightly reserved if PSG or Madrid want him after what has just happened. He is still extremely young for a manager so might want to build again.

In the EPL everyone bar Chelsea seems to be pretty locked for a manager in all honesty. They worry me but then if he fires Potter for Nagelsmann who’s to say he won’t do the same again?

Overall I think we are a good option. Good infrastructure, great location and some really talented players that are underachieving. He could get the fans on board pretty quickly and get the buzz back around the place.

This is the exactly the state of play as I see it.

You have to think they’re a risk though. They’ll likely be saying something along the lines of: ‘don’t rush into anything, you might as well wait till the summer anyway, then there’s a good chance you could come here…and with a much better invested squad and budget’

We stand the best chance if he wants to get straight back to work

 

[jbstarr14]

Either Nik Kershaw or Dave Grohl is the new manager.

Wouldn’t it be good if it was Nik Kershaw?

 

[worcestersauce]

No manager is going to come in now with the brief that they must qualify for the Champions league.
The real benefit of a new coach coming in now is that he has two months and ten games to get his ideas across on how he will have the side playing and to get to know the players instead of starting from scratch in the summer. I'm not sure why we'd be happy to wait three or four months for him to have a nice long holiday while we're treading water.
If we are absolutely set on one coach and are willing to accept that then maybe we would but I don't see how it's preferable.

 

[Yantino]

Realistically what other jobs are going to be available in the summer? I can’t see him managing in Italy or Germany.

That realistically leaves Spain, EPL and then PSG?

I can seem him being slightly reserved if PSG or Madrid want him after what has just happened. He is still extremely young for a manager so might want to build again.

In the EPL everyone bar Chelsea seems to be pretty locked for a manager in all honesty. They worry me but then if he fires Potter for Nagelsmann who’s to say he won’t do the same again?

Overall I think we are a good option. Good infrastructure, great location and some really talented players that are underachieving. He could get the fans on board pretty quickly and get the buzz back around the place.

I’m not disagreeing however I do think our club are tarnished somewhat now. Insomuch that I’m not sure who in their right mind would want to work with Levy and the rest of our board. I wouldn’t.

 

[piedpiper]

From our side I think one can certainly see the benefit but again I’m just not sure why he would agree.

Looking at it from his perspective, why tie yourself down now. He’s probably still going to be processing what just happened as you suggest and may well want to take time to recalibrate before making any long term decisions. Further more I think he’d think there would be more options available to him come summer even if Spurs isn’t one of them.

Im not saying it won’t happen, but unless he has a real hard on for us (which he may considering we talked to him twice in the past) or Levy really offers him a deal too good turn down I would think it’s unlikely he commits now for the summer. It just doesn’t make much sense from his point of view.

I think he would want to reset.... not jump straight into another massive club ( PSG/Madrid ) he could come to us build something ...he has plenty of years to manage the "bigger" clubs, the bloke is only 35...

In essence he has plenty of time to get to those bigger clubs....in hindsight he shouldn't have rushed into the Bayern job... he should have waited until later.

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

I think putting the clocks forward an hour to bring the announcement that little bit closer was a stroke of genius.