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[TPdYID]

Surely assessing them now is more beneficial and will give him more time to determine the needs of the squad? He will see more in the next 10 games in terms of mentality and ability than he would in preseason as its actually competitive.

He can explore the transfer market now. Doesnt have to wait until the summer.

What are you talking about?

Pre-season would give JN 6 weeks to explore everything from fitness testing, through to tactical analysis. He’s not going to be doing that now with 10 games to go, is he?

How is he going to explore the market now? It’s closed! Come the end of season he’ll be able to dip in & out, fine tuning a squad to play in ‘his way’.

In pre season JN can rotate his squad and try new formations which suits the current squad and players he has eyes on. He could arrange a friendly every day if he so desired. He won’t be able to do that now will he?

Surely you can see the merits of waiting if you were in his shoes? Astounded you’d think otherwise tbh.

 

[nailsy]

I honestly can't be arsed.

Swerved

Fair enough . To be honest I'm impressed that you replied.

 

[Hoopspur]

So if United were to fire Ten Hag (who has been in the job longer than Potter) Nagelsmann would probably be on their list.

If Pep walked away from City this summer, Nagelsmann is probably on their list.

If Klopp quit Liverpool this season, he'd probably be high on their list too.

Errrr, Palace? Is he on their list?

 

[PaulThurston]

Errrr, Palace? Is he on their list?

No, they have Roy.

 

[philll]

So... we want Chelsea to keep winning now?

No. We want to get Nagelsmann agreed and signed up now to take over after this season's done. Then it doesn't matter what Chelsea do.

 

[Lifelong]

There is really, they’re going to put season tickets up fucking loads!

“In the same statement, Mr Levy said ‘I feel we lost sight of some key priorities and what's truly in our DNA’.

No shit Sherlock……

 

[Frozen_Waffles]

As usual, people are re-editing history to suit their doom and gloom mood. The plan was not to appoint Nuno. The plan was not to appoint Gattuso. The plan, as @Trix suggested, was to appoint a “progressive” coach who would play attacking football. But everyone is conveniently forgetting that we were about a day away from appointing Paolo Fonseca, a coach with an open, attacking style, until something enigmatic happened and we walked away. By that stage, there was no time left and a bum needed to be put on the seat, so we appointed Nuno.

It’s conspicuous that everyone keeps editing out that sequence, in favour of ranting on about Gattuso and Nuno.

Did we ever find out what happened with Fonseca?

 

[knowlespurs]

We are 9th in the Deloitte football club rich list in both income and club value, and the fact that we have managed to bring in Conte and Mourinho reflect that. Whatever they did here they have still been Elite managers that you'd expect to see at one of the richest clubs. Of course you'd expect us to be behind those above us in those lists because those above us win trophies regularly as well. We have also paid those managers extremely well easily matching or surpassing most of those clubs above us. We have arguably the best stadium in the world, and also the best training ground. Other than the playing staff we operate every bit like the biggest clubs in the world, and it's bizarre how we are so far off as far as the football side of things are concerned. We should be on their priority list, maybe not in the same bracket as those above us but then perhaps we shouldn't be looking to compete with those clubs for managers.

It's simple for me, straight up offer it to Naglesmann(if that's who they want) and if he says he needs to wait until the Summer to think about it, move the fuck on. If he says yes but I want to wait until the Summer to get a fresh start that is different, and I'd get the contracts drawn straight up. Fact is though If Naglesmann is the preferred choice then whoever is next on the list should be of a similar style and Philosophy, and not someone with a totally different ideology of the game, that needs a completely different squad of players. That's what we've done for far too long now and it's why we've ended up with a plethora of players no manager wants to use.

Fact is with all that said I doubt very much that's what we will do. We'll go for Naglesmann and if he doesn't come it'll just be the next biggest name out there, regardless of how they want the game to be played.

Yep if nags doesn't take it we will probably go for someone totally different and that is why we have shit loads of players on loan we don't want. It's also relevant with directors of football as well as we flip flop on these, why in earth did we get in a defensive minded paratici after all that DNA crap, surely at the interview this must have come up
Just decide what we want to be and stick to it, have a list of managers with similar styles and ethos

 

[mill]

Did we ever find out what happened with Fonseca?

He said Paratici came in and didn’t agree with his vision of attacking football and wanted a more defensive manager


“The agreement was done. We were planning the pre-season and Tottenham wanted an offensive coach. It wasn’t announced but we planned pre-season players. But things changed when the new managing director arrived and we didn’t agree with some ideas and he preferred another coach.

“I have some principles. I wanted to be coach of the great teams but I want the right project and a club where the people believe in my ideas, my way to play, and this didn’t happen with the managing director.

“It’s what the chairman and the sporting director (Steve Hitchen) asked for. To build a team who can play attractive and offensive football and I was ready for that. I cannot be a different way. All my teams will have these intentions. In Rome or Shakhtar in the Champions League against the biggest teams, I’m not sending out my teams to defend near their own box.”

 

[Timberwolf]

Did we ever find out what happened with Fonseca?

I believe Paratici vetoed it last minute. I also seem to recall reports of some complication with his salary (tax related?) but I'm sure we could've ironed that out.

 

[Trent Crimm]

Did we ever find out what happened with Fonseca?

He runs a lemon processing plant in Bologna.

 

[Freddie]

Here's a question, if Stellini and Mason win 7 out of 10 games, with players that a lot of people here and Conte said are not good enough, then should they be given a go full-time?

No, for the same reason Tactics Tim didn't deserve a new contract despite his decent winning percentage.

 

[King of the Lane]

I hope Levy seriously takes into consideration the amount of time Ive spent starting a new Fifa Career Mode, creating Nagelsmann from scratch as he isnt on the game. 45 mins on every little feature to make sure Julie sharkface looks as realistic as possible. Dont make that all in vain you elbow headed dwarf.

 

[worcestersauce]

Thing is tho, if you actually take a step back and look at Nagelsmann objectively, he's only really a big name because he's so young and managed BM. And really his time at BM was actually incredibly underwhelming. As far as what he's achieved he isn't any more of a big name then Amorim, Gallardo, Galtier etc. Not that he isn't a good manager, he is and certainly did an incredible job at Hoffenheim especially but in regards to achievements both Amorim and Gallardo have done more then he has. I do think he's a very promising manager but I do think some are exaggerating his ability somewhat. Personally I hope we get Gallardo as I think at the moment he is a more developed manager and best suited to the job out of all the options, yes I would be happy with JN but I also feel like he is a lot more of a risky appointment then some seem to think.

Don't forget Leipzig which led to his appointment at Bayern. I know you can't point to a string of trophies like Conte and Jose but as you say he is young.
So in conclusion, to summarise, I'm confused.

 

[TPdYID]

45 mins on every little feature to make sure Julie sharkface looks as realitic as possible.

Is he wearing his Real Madrid blazer or tracksuit?

(sniggers from the back and waits for the predictable SC melt-down)

 

[ntmac82]

What are you talking about?

Pre-season would give JN 6 weeks to explore everything from fitness testing, through to tactical analysis. He’s not going to be doing that now with 10 games to go, is he?

How is he going to explore the market now? It’s closed! Come the end of season he’ll be able to dip in & out, fine tuning a squad to play in ‘his way’.

In pre season JN can rotate his squad and try new formations which suits the current squad and players he has eyes on. He could arrange a friendly every day if he so desired. He won’t be able to do that now will he?

Surely you can see the merits of waiting if you were in his shoes? Astounded you’d think otherwise tbh.

Logic is what I'm talking about!

Pre Season would give him 6 weeks but if he is appointed now then he has even longer to assess the players in both a mentality aspect and also ability aspect.

Why couldn't he try out new systems now? No hard or fast rule as to what he can do. You seem to be suggesting pre season is going to give him more insight than seeing the players in a competitive situation and I disagree.

Just because the Transfer market is closed doesnt mean you cannot assess your needs and plan for player a,b or c. Signing a player is not like going to Aldi to buy a bag of rice. It takes a lot of due diligence

The club should have a plan in place that if a Manager/player leaves we have a sucession plan in place so you have continuity.

 

[neogenisis]

To be fair, none of this gets done till he fucks off on holiday.

This did age well!

 

[Trent Crimm]

Logic is what I'm talking about!

Pre Season would give him 6 weeks but if he is appointed now then he has even longer to assess the players in both a mentality aspect and also ability aspect.

Why couldn't he try out new systems now? No hard or fast rule as to what he can do. You seem to be suggesting pre season is going to give him more insight than seeing the players in a competitive situation and I disagree.

Just because the Transfer market is closed doesnt mean you cannot assess your needs and plan for player a,b or c. Signing a player is not like going to Aldi to buy a bag of rice. It takes a lot of due diligence

The club should have a plan in place that if a Manager/player leaves we have a sucession plan in place so you have continuity.

This is Spurs ffs. We don’t do this.

 

[Snarfalicious]

This is Spurs ffs. We don’t do this.

I really hope spending more time around Ted helps improve your outlook, in general.

 

[ntmac82]

This is Spurs ffs. We don’t do this.

I agree. shocking isn't it