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[ukdy]

I keep clicking back to Spurs Chat thinking I'm in the Player Watch: Oliver Skipp thread.. how about we get back to brass tacks here!!?

 

[KingNick]

I mean firstly, it shouldn’t matter if he pots here or not. To be honest looking at the reaction to his posts from some, if I was some I wouldn’t bother posting here either.

Second we’ve heard all the whatsapp stuff before, who cares if he’s in seven different whatsapp chats, ‘our’ ITK, share stuff ‘back of house’ as they like to say, I’m not particularly fussed where the persons info is from, I’m more concerned if it’s reliable, and a lot of his has been.

All I’m saying is apply fairness consistently, a few pages back, we get info from prof who is known to be reliable saying we’re working on it and making progress but there are hurdles… one page later, Herc says we’re making progress but there’s still potential issues.. so is herc a tap in merchant too?

They’ve both been correct about stuff in the past, and no ITK is 100% because of the nature of it.

I just personally think it looks shitty that we apply rules on our itk, but it’s free rein to say what you want about anyone else. Surely people are ITK or not? All I’m saying is apply the rules fairly, either people are reliable, or, if they aren’t viewed as being then don’t allow their stuff to be added to the thread.

I just don’t see the need for the slagging off of people who are clearly sharing info in good faith.

That’s the point. He’s not ITK and not acting in good faith. He used to have a connection at the club, it is pretty obvious who that was given the high profile departures…. Now he’s just about the attention.

 

[Oscar22]

That’s the point. He’s not ITK and not acting in good faith. He used to have a connection at the club, it is pretty obvious who that was given the high profile departures…. Now he’s just about the attention.

We can agree to disagree, said my bit, you’ve said yours. Won’t derail the thread further .

 

[-Afri-Coy-]

Evening everyone, my phone broke a few days back so not been able to access anything on here. Have I missed anything over the past 150 pages? I don't mind a catch up now and again but not 150 pages .

From my end, my guy has told me things are moving with Slot but that's not anything groundbreaking since my last update a few days back.

Any help is appreciated cheers.

It's SC, you need to have missed 300+ pages to have missed anything valuable.

COYS
Daniel

 

[spursfan77]

I think the Xabi Alonso news coming out today right as the Slot story picked up is key to all of this. I wonder if one of the two things has happened:

1. The board/Levy was split on who to chose between him and Slot, and when they heard he wanted to stay it only leaves Slot so they've moved quickly on him
2. We've chosen Slot outright and it's freed Alonso up to recommit to Bayer and look loyal.

I don’t think we were ever serious on Alonso at all

 

[McFlash]

i haven’t suggested a manager should have a say in who is included (the reports do state that it is the club hierarchy who have added him to the group though). It’s more that there are two games left, there is no business for a players committee to be consulted on (their biggest role is usually having input on the team bonus pool agreed at the beginning of the season) so why add a player who a new manager might not want.
And if it’s fellow players who have added him then one seems almost certain to be gone and again, the manager would be best getting rid of one other.

I would assume that by hierarchy, it would mean senior players, as opposed to the chairman.
And it doesn't really matter if there are two games left or thirty, the players are going to want their lines of communication to the management.
If Skippy is deemed suitable to have a voice in that, I really don't see what the problem is, it's really not a big deal.

I would think that every team has a group of senior voices in the dressing room and I really don't see that as a negative.
Just because those players may or may not be wanted in the future, doesn't mean that they aren't currently acting in the best interests of their team mates and therefore, the club.

 

[Albertbarich]

This just reads as if you don't understand the point of such a committee or what it actually is.

I think it's as simple as back in the day, the captain used to be the communication link between the players and the manager, nowadays it's more of a group effort, hence the "committee".

It doesn't mean that they are all powerful, or that some of them can't/won't be sold if need be, it just means that the most expensive and valuable assets that the club have are able to voice their concerns and opinions.

These days, players have much more power than they used to, so it's only reasonable that they should be able to have a voice.
This doesn't mean that the manager or Levy have to do whatever they say, it means that they're treated as valued employees.

I know what it entails but it doesn't answer my questions.

If the players are selecting their voices and a new leader rejects three quarters of those voices as members of his new squad then that puts him on the back foot and can easily effect squad morale

 

[blitzfyr]

Whilst Nagelsmann was probably the best all round option objectively, Slot is a really exciting alternative.

I just hope he isn’t entirely acquiescing to levy’s terms and is getting some assurances about changes to the squad (whether they will last or not) because by all accounts we will need to change quite a few players to effectively play his style.

Part of me thinks the current unrest and lack of season ticket renewals is driving levy into action but as soon as fans ease off so will he, leaving slot high and dry and insufficiently backed.

If and when we line up in august with dier and / or Sanchez in defence and Forster in goal, the slot era will be over before it started.

Very much hope my fears aren’t realise and there is a genuinely respected DOF coming in along side him to boot!

 

[djhotspur]

Tanguy.

Nah tanguy will make it eventually, he just got tired on the way to the meeting

 

[Bing]

The make up of our player committee speaks volumes about where we are as a club at the moment.

Huge work to be done by new manager and DOF.

 

[djhotspur]

We need a bit more info if we are going to be able to help you. What make of phone is it and what part is broken.

Has he tried putting it in rice? Although I’m not sure how Declan would feel

 

[McFlash]

I know what it entails but it doesn't answer my questions.

If the players are selecting their voices and a new leader rejects three quarters of those voices as members of his new squad then that puts him on the back foot and can easily effect squad morale

To be honest, that's nothing that any new manager, at any club, wouldn't have to deal with.
I really don't see a problem with this myself.

It's up to the manager to be strong in himself and for the board to back him.
He won't lose the dressing room if he's doing what's best for the club, the players that remain will understand that.

Poch managed it with his clearout of Kaboul, Adebayor et al.

 

[PhezTHFC]

Evening everyone, my phone broke a few days back so not been able to access anything on here. Have I missed anything over the past 150 pages? I don't mind a catch up now and again but not 150 pages .

From my end, my guy has told me things are moving with Slot but that's not anything groundbreaking since my last update a few days back.

Any help is appreciated cheers.

@Trix And The Goat both said



Also A&C said LOL

 

[Albertbarich]

To be honest, that's nothing that any new manager, at any club, wouldn't have to deal with.
I really don't see a problem with this myself.

It's up to the manager to be strong in himself and for the board to back him.
He won't lose the dressing room if he's doing what's best for the club, the players that remain will understand that.

Poch managed it with his clearout of Kaboul, Adebayor et al.

Agree with all of that but to add to the committee and therefore add a potential problem just before a new manager starts is my issue

 

[Dr Know]

We can agree to disagree, said my bit, you’ve said yours. Won’t derail the thread further .

I guess he didn’t agree

 

[Bluto Blutarsky]

Agree with all of that but to add to the committee and therefore add a potential problem just before a new manager starts is my issue

I just don't get how its a problem.

Adding a player to the committee is not creating any issue for the manager. There are no requirements that players on the committee must be selected for the XI, or even the team sheet.

Skippy makes the most sense as someone to represent players coming through the Academy. Kane no longer really fits that position - Skipp is the role model for the Academy players now, and he'll know what was important to him as he was coming through.

 

[barry]

Nagelsmann has only managed finacially doped clubs, or the most powerful team in the country. Slot took AZ to joint top.

I keep getting disagrees for this post, but it's just facts. What are you disagreeing with?

 

[Yiddo1982]

Said it a few weeks ago, I think I’d prefer slot to nagelsmann as we’ve tried the big names and it don’t work, as long as he’s ALLOWED to build a team/project in his style I’m all for it, firstly I just wanna enjoy watching us play again! Then perhaps we can think about the bigger picture! If we can get the director of football correct too, and a couple of smart signings (don’t think we need big names) but a Maddison would be great for the creative cm, although if rumours are to be beloved he’ll wanna bring kocuk with him? He’s a creative cm right?

Kokcu is deployed by Slot as a more deep-lying playmaker, not in the Maddison role. You could have both.

 

[McFlash]

Agree with all of that but to add to the committee and therefore add a potential problem just before a new manager starts is my issue

I don't think Skipp will be a problem, iirc both Poch and Jose considered him future captain material.
He's come through the system and provides a great link and insight into the academy and to be honest, I'd rather someone like him than the likes of Hojbjerg and Dier.

In fact, I'd maybe even go as far as to say that apart from Kane, he's probably one of the best placed to be on the committee.

 

[jay2040]

Some sort of positive news and peeps moaning about a player committee and Skipp!
Surely least of our fucking worries!