Let's All Laugh At... Let's all laugh at Chelsea thread

[razor1981]

He wouldn't be a part-player now after this season anyway. Plus I bet he moves to Liverpool, they will need a good transfer to soften the Salah and Klopp blows, plus it would be perfect revenge for Chelsea screwing them over Caicedo and especially Lavia deal (bullet dodged but still). They won't rush to save them for sure but I bet they get him eventually.

Liverpool might be interested, but I don't see why they'd want to go that big within the first couple of weeks of the window opening - they might not even have a manager in place by then.

 

[GutBucket]

Exacr who can afford him?

I don’t think he is worth 90 million in the new current market.


I doubt Liverpool can justify / spend 90 million on one player.

Don’t they have other holes to fill first In there squad?

They spent similar amount on Nunez. Palmer is HG and proven in the league. Someone will have to replace some of Salah's contributions when he leaves.

 

[Marty]

Given EVERYONE knows that Chelsea need to sell, why would anyone pay market value, let alone more for any of their players?

And why were three of their biggest rivals willing to pay obscene money for Kovacic, Mount and Havertz last summer?

It baffles me even more now after all this is coming out. City, United and Arsenal bailed them out of trouble last summer for no good reason. Of the three you can seriously argue Havertz has been the least bad signing, and that's saying something!

 

[newbie]

They spent similar amount on Nunez. Palmer is HG and proven in the league. Someone will have to replace some of Salah's contributions when he leaves.

Aren’t they strong though in the on the wings?

Palmer has not even had one full season yet, 90 million million sounds a lot of money they can find better value elsewhere. Also not to mention Chelsea are desperate unless there’s a bidding war why do you pay that much money?

 

[GutBucket]

Aren’t they strong though in the on the wings?

Palmer has not even had one full season yet, 90 million million sounds a lot of money they can find better value elsewhere. Also not to mention Chelsea are desperate unless there’s a bidding war why do you pay that much money?

Because he's a great player and HG. He is matching Foden's production while being younger. Once Chelsea stop being desperate teams won't be able to get him. Not sure who would be better value, he has 10 goals and 4 assists in 20 games plus carried Chelsea in EFL Cup to finals. Barcelona want 75m for Raphinha who is older and not HG for comparison.

 

[Stamford]

This is honestly beautiful to witness. They're a small club who won the lottery and cheated the system for years. In that time they stopped other teams winning trophies and all the effects that come with that. We would have won trophies including the league without this Chelsea team being financially doped.

sincerely hope they feel the full force of the new financial regulation and they suffer for a long period.

 

[robotsonic]

Because he's a great player and HG. He is matching Foden's production while being younger. Once Chelsea stop being desperate teams won't be able to get him. Not sure who would be better value, he has 10 goals and 4 assists in 20 games plus carried Chelsea in EFL Cup to finals. Barcelona want 75m for Raphinha who is older and not HG for comparison.

Barca wanting 75m for Raphinha is very different to him being worth that in this market or anyone ever paying it. They want that for him in the same way Chelsea were punting Broja about for 50m last month. Because they are in the mud and need money. So it's not really a credible valuation to use to back up another.

Can defo see Palmer at Liverpool, but not in time to help Chelsea out of the mire. Probably the following season, and especially if they actually get a significant points deduction. There will be room for Chelsea to get some profit then with 2 years of writing him down, and you can't see him wanting to waste a third year there if they're not challenging for anything/relegated.

 

[GutBucket]

Barca wanting 75m for Raphinha is very different to him being worth that in this market or anyone ever paying it. They want that for him in the same way Chelsea were punting Broja about for 50m last month. Because they are in the mud and need money. So it's not really a credible valuation to use to back up another.

Can defo see Palmer at Liverpool, but not in time to help Chelsea out of the mire. Probably the following season, and especially if they actually get a significant points deduction. There will be room for Chelsea to get some profit then with 2 years of writing him down, and you can't see him wanting to waste a third year there if they're not challenging for anything/relegated.

Barcelona rejected Arsenal's bid of 70m this year already. They will definitely get something around that number for him, if he stays healthy. Nboody ever bid close to 50m for Broja.

 

[luRRka]

Barcelona rejected Arsenal's bid of 70m this year already. They will definitely get something around that number for him, if he stays healthy. Nboody ever bid close to 50m for Broja.

According to "sport" which is almost certainly fabricated. Barcelona are in the mud. Worse than Chelsea. Not a chance they turn down 70m for him. He's only played 900 odd mins for them this season

 

[GutBucket]

According to "sport" which is almost certainly fabricated. Barcelona are in the mud. Worse than Chelsea. Not a chance they turn down 70m for him. He's only played 900 odd mins for them this season

They wanted more at the start of the season, but they wouldn't turn down 70m now yeah. Even with his injuries he still has a good number of goals and assists and he was in fantastic form before the injury.

 

[Trix]

Barcelona rejected Arsenal's bid of 70m this year already. They will definitely get something around that number for him, if he stays healthy. Nboody ever bid close to 50m for Broja.

From who? You are talking about a very select number of clubs that can do that kind of deal. Saudi clubs, 5 or 6 in the Prem, Real, Bayern and PSG. When you factor in half the big Prem clubs are now shitting themselves due to FFP everyone is leaving Saudi already and Bayern have only paid that sort of figure for Kane all of a sudden those options are extremely limited. No one is paying £70 mil in the current climate for Raphina except maybe those in the Saudi pro league.

 

[Spriggan]

They spent similar amount on Nunez. Palmer is HG and proven in the league. Someone will have to replace some of Salah's contributions when he leaves.

That's not in doubt, but it's not the issue: Why would a direct rival pay Chelsea what they ask for one of their players when they know it would help them (Chelsea) potentially avoid being sanctioned, or reduce the amount of said sanctions, for breaching FFP regulations, which all clubs signed up for? It makes zero sense on ANY level, in ANY business! If a club wants to buy Palmer then they are only going to pay pennies on the pound for him, even if they have FFP wriggle room prior to June 30th!

 

[GutBucket]

From who? You are talking about a very select number of clubs that can do that kind of deal. Saudi clubs, 5 or 6 in the Prem, Real, Bayern and PSG. When you factor in the Prem clubs are now shitting themselves due to FFP everyone is leaving Saudi already and Bayern have only paid that sort of figure for Kane all of a sudden those options are extremely limited.

He is too good not to be at one of the very select number of clubs anyway. Players leaving Saudi won't stop Salah from going there.

That's not in doubt, but it's not the issue: Why would a direct rival pay Chelsea what they ask for one of their players when they know it would help them them (Chelsea) potentially avoid being sanctioned, or reduce the amount of said sanctions, for breaching FFP regulations, which all clubs signed up for? It makes zero sense on ANY level, in ANY business! If a club wants to buy Palmer then they are only going to pay pennies on the pound for him, even if they have FFP wriggle room prior to June 30th!

Why did Arsenal pay so much for Havertz or Utd for Mount? And who is their direct rival? How much do you think Palmer will cost?

 

[Cornpattbuck]

City rarely sell young talent without a percentage sell-on clause or first refusal/pretermined buy back etc, so doubt selling Palmer would touch the sides for Chelsea. Amazing what an impact the lad has had though.

Lukaku also seems a fading force even in Italy, so doubt he'd bring in the kind of money that some people think he might.

Arsenal and Man Utd will probably step in to snap up a few overpriced rejects though. They must have some sort of collaboration agreement that lot.

 

[Westmorlandspur]

Liverpool, Arsenal, City. How much do you think they will get for him?

Not much more than they paid.
City will pay double what they received to get a player back who wanted to leave. youve got your head in a bucket
Arsenal and Liverpool do not need a player like Palmer and wouldn’t pay it anyway. Arsenal,on the limit for FFP.

 

[Spriggan]

He is too good not to be at one of the very select number of clubs anyway. Players leaving Saudi won't stop Salah from going there.

Why did Arsenal pay so much for Havertz or Utd for Mount? And who is their direct rival? How much do you think Palmer will cost?

They had FFP room, and it wasn't at the end of the 3 year accounting period, they still had time (and other clubs still had FFP room) to offload players to help counter balance the outlay on the players you mentioned. Chelsea are in deep shit and it highly unlikely another team will, or can, bale them out. Professional sport is as cut-throat as any other business, and they are no "nice guys"

 

[GutBucket]

Not much more than they paid.
City will pay double what they received to get a player back who wanted to leave. youve got your head in a bucket
Arsenal and Liverpool do not need a player like Palmer and wouldn’t pay it anyway. Arsenal,on the limit for FFP.

Now google how much United paid for Pogba or Chelsea for Lukaku (last time). You think they will sell Palmer for 40m , we spent more on Brennan Johnson. Liverpool spent that on Benteke 10 years ago. Liverpool will absoulutely need a player like Palmer.

They had FFP room, and it wasn't at the end of the 3 year accounting period, they still had time (and other clubs still had FFP room) to offload players to help counter balance the outlay on the players you mentioned. Chelsea are in deep shit and it highly unlikely another team will, or can, bale them out. Professional sport is as cut-throat as any other business, and they are no "nice guys"

Chelsea would need a lot more money to offload now if Arsenal and Utd didn't majorly help them out. Around 200m in 2 weeks?

 

[Steffen]

They will get a lot more for Palmer, he is having one amazing season. He will go for at least double what we paid for Brennan Johnson, even if he wasn't HG and he surely is, plus club trained for City. Rice went for 105m after having a super shitty season, Palmer is younger and one of the best players in the league this year. Main reason why they are in Cup final too. The only problem could be timing, maybe they get few points deducted until they manage to sell few players. But Palmer and Colwill won't take long I bet.

Unless they get injured, then they fucked.

Remember that this is a summer with Euros, and that traditionally makes the transfer market slow until end of July/early August. Chelsea needs money before that.

 

[newbie]

They spent similar amount on Nunez. Palmer is HG and proven in the league. Someone will have to replace some of Salah's contributions when he leaves.

they have to buy him before the 1st of July, this is going to prove a problem.


wouldn’t be surprised if we do a lot of our buys before the 1st

 

[UncleBuck]

I see on Sky they are talking about the EPL going down the route of clubs only being allowed to spend 80% of their turnover now.
Well that’s not going to help Chelsea is it, in fact that’d put them about £500m down going on their last figures!