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Hoddle - for the younger ones who never saw him play

Spurger King

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The only player better than him in the World at that time was Maradona and even he couldn't do much of what Hoddle could.

One thing they did have in common was good taste in football shirts:

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Shea

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I never had the pleasure of watching him live, he was just before my time

But I used to watch a video my Granddad made of the 1986/87 season with all the live match and MOTD clips complied together and I loved the goal he scored on his last game against Oxford

I used to pretend to be him scoring that goal when I played football with my friends as a kid

Amazing composure, skill and elegance in this goal

One of my favourite ever goals, and I watch this youtube video and realise it wasn't even the best goal he ever scored for us

 

Col_M

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He was Dembele(possession and outrageous ball control), Eriksen (vision and freekicks), Alli (magic out of the blue) and Kane (goals galore) all rolled into one.
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He was great but I don't agree with those comparisons.

He wasn't Strong, Physical or a Goal Poacher and did t have a mean streak. But Jesus what a player he was.
 

The boy hoddle

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He was Dembele(possession and outrageous ball control), Eriksen (vision and freekicks), Alli (magic out of the blue) and Kane (goals galore) all rolled into one.

Please please watch this and know that you have witnessed arguably England's most skilful player ever, whose skills were not appreciated by the silly England managers of the 80s.


He was Dembele(possession and outrageous ball control), Eriksen (vision and freekicks), Alli (magic out of the blue) and Kane (goals galore) all rolled into one.

Please please watch this and know that you have witnessed arguably England's most skilful player ever, whose skills were not appreciated by the silly England managers of the 80s.[/QUOTE]
Thanksfor great video was there when he made he's debut away to stoke,was there for many of the clips on the video including the forest volley, the free kick away to Chelsea and many more ,shear talent the most gifted player of the era even without me Spurs bias on ,treated poorly by England manager Greenwood?
Wenger recognised his talent so took him to Monaco
Oh happy days!!!
 

spurs9

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In my mind was the equal of Platini who was the best in Europe at the time but for some bizarre reason overlooked by England all too frequently. A wonderful player to watch and produced some of my most cherished moments at the lane.
I was at an event with an ex Spurs player that played with Hoddle (Don McAllister) and he spoke about and he said it was basically because they didn't know how to play with him, as Hoddle was ahead of his time as an English player, playing more like a South American.
He said, when Hoddle first broke through into the Spurs team, they had the same problem, the defence would get the ball and Hoddle would be dropping back screaming for a pass, but they would just ignore him as he had a marker on him and they would scream back at him to get up the pitch and then they would hoof it and which point Hoddle would give them a gob full. After a while of Hoddle constantly doing this, they eventually started to pass it to him expecting to have to immediately win it back but instead Hoddle skillfully turned and lost his player and started an attack. With them now realising this was a better option, they started passing to Hoddle more and more. The problem with England, was there weren't enough matches to get this trust/understanding, so the defenders hoofed it instead of passing to Hoddle, so they didn't see the best of him. Don reckons that any other country in the world would have built their team around him, he was that good and even when he was managing England in his 40s, he was by far better in training than any of the England players to the level that he used to show them up (unintentionally).

Edit: Just goes to show that England were falling behind the rest of the world as far back as the 70s.
 
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punkisback

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What ever happened to the stab pass/chip, watching that vid reminded me I did it all the time when I was playing (in 5 a-sides). Hoddle did it a lot in this highlights reel. I don't see players doing it anymore, is it something to do with the balls they use these days?

You basically stab at the ball to give it back spin. Really handy when chipping balls over the top.
Yeah I know, lost art, I still do it week in week out playing Centreback. ;)
 

Jamturk

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The England FA and management should be tried for crimes against humanity for overlooking this gift from the Gods.
 

Dennism

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I know that Ardiles said that if Hoddle was Argentinian they would have built their team around him. Sadly England were too stupid to do that. Hoddle was a genius and I was lucky to see him play so much.
 

Chris Flynn

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The last goal is my favourite of all time, too young to have seen it but had it on a spurs golden goals vid. Loved it
 

yido16

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Bobby Robson ruined his England career dropped for neil bloody Webb, who ended up being a postman , should of had way over 100 caps
 

talkshowhost86

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I never had the pleasure of watching him live, he was just before my time

But I used to watch a video my Granddad made of the 1986/87 season with all the live match and MOTD clips complied together and I loved the goal he scored on his last game against Oxford

I used to pretend to be him scoring that goal when I played football with my friends as a kid

Amazing composure, skill and elegance in this goal

One of my favourite ever goals, and I watch this youtube video and realise it wasn't even the best goal he ever scored for us



I've said this before but I still don't fully understand how he did what he did for this goal.

I've watched it time and time again and I still don't understand how that one touch took the whole of Oxfordshire out of the game.

Genuinely spellbinding.
 

Hotspur33

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As someone who is too young to have seen him play, I love watching these highlight reels, I love hearing stories about his legend.
But can those who were there when he was in his prime...how consistent was he?
Was he a Steven Gerrard, Frank Lampard type of consistent or was he more like a Wayne Rooney? Brilliant in spells quiet in others??
 

JW_Spur

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The word "legend" gets thrown around a lot but it absolutely applies to him 100%. He did what he wanted with the ball.
 

JAYSTAR

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Loved that video. What a player he was. Alli is the one who seems most similar in terms of skills and trickery (and nut megs of course).

Bring back the wall pass I say!

The team just knew what he was gonna do and so often made great runs off the ball in anticipation. Great to see. Hopefully, Alli will develop shed loads and become as influential as Hoddle was. Only other player I was reminded of was yarmolenko...
 

fuzzylogic

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Embarrassing that he has so few England caps for a man of his ability. Overlooked by many. What a player, and never wanted anyone else to take us to a different level as a manager apart from him. It Didn't work out for us, but love him still
 

Phomesy

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Can some one explain o this poor old Aussie ex-pat why Hoddle wasn't first picked in the England squad.? Was he considered flair and not hard working? Surely there must be some reason even if a shit one.
 

yusrisafri

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I never had the pleasure of watching him live, he was just before my time

But I used to watch a video my Granddad made of the 1986/87 season with all the live match and MOTD clips complied together and I loved the goal he scored on his last game against Oxford

I used to pretend to be him scoring that goal when I played football with my friends as a kid

Amazing composure, skill and elegance in this goal

One of my favourite ever goals, and I watch this youtube video and realise it wasn't even the best goal he ever scored for us



It WAS his best goal for us, IMO.

The way he basically jogged past the players, not ran, but jogged, just with that piece of sublime trickery of his body and feet, was outrageous. Made it look too easy
 
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shelfmonkey

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That was a nice way to spend 16 minutes on a Monday. I was at half of those games and although the pace of the game is faster now you only have to look at the pitches and challenges coming in from all angles to realise he would have been equally as good in today's game. The balls were horrible as well.

He would've been the greatest player this country has ever produced if we're playing today, sadly he was born too early, but luckily for us old farts we got to grow up watching him. Pure class, unique talent.
 

shelfmonkey

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He was Dembele(possession and outrageous ball control), Eriksen (vision and freekicks), Alli (magic out of the blue) and Kane (goals galore) all rolled into one.

Please please watch this and know that you have witnessed arguably England's most skilful player ever, whose skills were not appreciated by the silly England managers of the 80s.
Thanksfor great video was there when he made he's debut away to stoke,was there for many of the clips on the video including the forest volley, the free kick away to Chelsea and many more ,shear talent the most gifted player of the era even without me Spurs bias on ,treated poorly by England manager Greenwood?
Wenger recognised his talent so took him to Monaco
Oh happy days!!![/QUOTE]

England managers, Sir Alf apart, have been and seemingly always will be gutless, blinkered dinosaurs!!!
 
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