Harry Kane

[Whitey]

A big club wouldn't, a big club would say off you go this club's bigger than any player and this club isn't so weak we desperately want to cling on to him hoping he'll change his mind.

Sorry should add , I don't hanker for Kane to change his mind, just my opinion that we'll be better and stronger with him in a Spurs shirt for 1 more season....

 

[worcestersauce]

That's not the true picture and you know it.... The emphasis is.....starting to act like a big club and a big club wouldn't shit themselves, if their world class striker see his contact out...... Has Kane put in a transfer request????? Until he does, I don't by this Tuchel tapping up bullshit, it suits Levy's narrative rather too conveniently

I don't know it at all, a big club doesn’t shit themselves about losing them so hang on as long as they can. I couldn't give a toss about Tuchel all I'm interested in is the fact that Kane has not and clearly has no intention of committing to us and so we decide how and when. That's how a big club acts.

 

[Whitey]

I don't know it at all, a big club doesn’t shit themselves about losing them so hang on as long as they can. I couldn't give a toss about Tuchel all I'm interested in is the fact that Kane has not and clearly has no intention of committing to us and so we decide how and when. That's how a big club acts.

Not sure where you're explaining how a big club acts there Worcester... Please explain where we are we better off without Kane..... And don't say £80 mil.... That just screams you have no footballing argument and side with the financial desperation with Levy....

 

[jay2040]

I’d say that for 99% of our players but Kane is our record ever club goalscorer so if there is a way to stop him going to a PL rival in future and ideally come back to us instead then I’m all for that.

Why though? Surely we should have moved on as a club by then and not need him? What if he does not want to ? Can you not envisage success without him? Would you not want to be in a position where we don't need him back again? Don't you want us to be top dog in the future so that if he does come back there is no one better than us ?

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

Why though? Surely we should have moved on as a club by then and not need him? What if he does not want to ? Can you not envisage success without him? Would you not want to be in a position where we don't need him back again? Don't you want us to be top dog in the future so that if he does come back there is no one better than us ?

That’s a lot of Q’s lol but basically if it’s not much hassle to put some favourable clauses in so if the circumstances are right he could return then why not. Simple

 

[jay2040]

That’s a lot of Q’s lol but basically if it’s not much hassle to put some favourable clauses in so if the circumstances are right he could return then why not. Simple

Missing the point. All questions rhetorical so no need to respond!

 

[breaksyid]

Not sure where you're explaining how a big club acts there Worcester... Please explain where we are we better off without Kane..... And don't say £80 mil.... That just screams you have no footballing argument and side with the financial desperation with Levy....

I was about to use my annual interaction on this website to counteract your point. Then halfway through typing it out, I realised you were right! Go figure.

 

[worcestersauce]

Not sure where you're explaining how a big club acts there Worcester... Please explain where we are we better off without Kane..... And don't say £80 mil.... That just screams you have no footballing argument and side with the financial desperation with Levy....

We won't have Kane next year and we'll have to deal with it then so we're not avoiding the problem we're just delaying it. I know the argument that big clubs don't have to sell and only small clubs sell their best players when big clubs come calling but that's not the situation here. With one season to go you have to take ownership of the situation and make it work best for you as a club. I really believe we will be doing the right thing and behaving as a big club, what we do next and how we spend and on who, then needs to be in the same vein, we have to be bold, I'm not so confident of that though.

 

[Timberwolf]

We won't have Kane next year and we'll have to deal with it then so we're not avoiding the problem we're just delaying it. I know the argument that big clubs don't have to sell and only small clubs sell their best players when big clubs come calling but that's not the situation here. With one season to go you have to take ownership of the situation and make it work best for you as a club. I really believe we will be doing the right thing and behaving as a big club, what we do next and how we spend and on who, then needs to be in the same vein, we have to be bold, I'm not so confident of that though.

United and Chelsea sold Hazard and Ronaldo to Madrid.

City lost Sane to Bayern.

Hell, even Bayern had to sell Lewandowski cos he wanted to go to Barca.

The 'big club' argument holds no weight unless you're Real Madrid and Barca, basically.

Funnily enough the one thing all those big clubs did do was sell their big players before they went for free.

 

[worcestersauce]

United and Chelsea both sold Hazard and Ronaldo to Madrid.

City lost Sane to Bayern.

Hell, even Bayern had to sell Lewandowski cos he wanted to go to Barca.

The 'big club' argument holds no weight unless you're Real Madrid and Barca, basically.

I wouldn't argue with that but big club little club comparisons had already been introduced into the discussion.
What you are saying is sort of my point, those clubs accepted the situation and took the decision to make it work best for them. That's what I think we're doing and to his credit it seems Kane is not forcing it to the end of his contract.

 

[robotsonic]

United and Chelsea sold Hazard and Ronaldo to Madrid.

City lost Sane to Bayern.

Hell, even Bayern had to sell Lewandowski cos he wanted to go to Barca.

The 'big club' argument holds no weight unless you're Real Madrid and Barca, basically.

Funnily enough the one thing all those big clubs did do was sell their big players before they went for free.

...Bale, Benzema, Messi...

 

[Whitey]

We won't have Kane next year and we'll have to deal with it then so we're not avoiding the problem we're just delaying it. I know the argument that big clubs don't have to sell and only small clubs sell their best players when big clubs come calling but that's not the situation here. With one season to go you have to take ownership of the situation and make it work best for you as a club. I really believe we will be doing the right thing and behaving as a big club, what we do next and how we spend and on who, then needs to be in the same vein, we have to be bold, I'm not so confident of that though.

We just have differing views on what's best I suppose. I don't trust Levy on the footballing recruitment side of this deal. I don't think he's genuinely selling Kane for the best in regards to the squad and rather we give Ange a year with Kane..... More chance of a successful season with than without Kane...... well that's my hope

 

[mil1lion]

Yet Gerard happened to do it against AC Milan, against a much better Arsenal team in an FA cup final as 2 examples. I love Kane so i don't want to it to seem like i am being negative towards him i am not and it is a team game I agree but great players elevate themselves in the biggest games and sometimes, not everytime but sometimes drag there team mates with them and win the biggest games. Kane has never done that and it will hurt him when his playing days are over if he never gets Tottenham over the line for a trophy. I hope he stays with us forever but if he isn't going to sign a new contract get rid now so we can maybe move the rebuild on a bit. Would prefer Kane to the money though every time.

Players rarely drag a team to a trophy though. It takes a team. He's also been unfortunate to not be fully fit for a couple of finals.
You also have to consider that players who perform in these big games have other top players around them.
Liverpool are still a massive club with history winning titles. Spurs haven't and there's a mentality that filters throughout the squad.
Maybe Kane has part of that too because he's been around it but it's going to take more than 1 player or a manager to change that.

 

[breaksyid]

I was about to use my annual interaction on this website to counteract your point. Then halfway through typing it out, I realised you were right! Go figure.

Just realised I added nothing to the discussion with that post. I apologise. Basically, halfway through the post I was writing (i.e after Googling some shit before posting. You should try it.), I realised Man City allowed Gundogan to run his contract down and go on a free. And I mean, he was like a real big part of my argument and also, a big part of them last season. But maybe that's what "big" teams do?! They utilize their assets, try to extract every ounce of performance from them and then, when they've achieved their goals, let them go, regardless of money. I personally feel Kane isn't suited to the much derided, "I'm a hipster ball"? We've all seen it in pre-season. He persistently hovers deep trying to make shit happen. That's, the so called, "Madderz" role now. Where does Kane actually fit into this team? Richy is perfect for it; perhaps Muani more so?! But Kane? €100m sounds sweet to me, what with Tapsoba and VDV coming in for that sort of money. No?!

 

[Whitey]

Just realised I added nothing to the discussion with that post. I apologise. Basically, halfway through the post I was writing (i.e after Googling some shit before posting. You should try it.), I realised Man City allowed Gundogan to run his contract down and go on a free. And I mean, he was like a real big part of my argument and also, a big part of them last season. But maybe that's what "big" teams do?! They utilize their assets, try to extract every ounce of performance from them and then, when they've achieved their goals, let them go, regardless of money. I personally feel Kane isn't suited to the much derided, "I'm a hipster ball"? We've all seen it in pre-season. He persistently hovers deep trying to make shit happen. That's, the so called, "Madderz" role now. Where does Kane actually fit into this team? Richy is perfect for it; perhaps Muani more so?! But Kane? €100m sounds sweet to me, what with Tapsoba and VDV coming in for that sort of money. No?!

I do get that argument, are we really saying Kane can't play as No9? I'm sure he'd fit in once he trusts the system....his aging legs and dodgy ankle would love to stick around the 18yard box surely

I'd trust Kane to come good as No9 in an Ange system more than Levy signing off on those transfers..... But again I hope I'm wrong if Kane does depart...... This would be so much easier for fans like me, if Kane handed in an actual transfer request .

 

[breaksyid]

I do get that argument, are we really saying Kane can't play as No9? I'm sure he'd fit in once he trusts the system....his aging legs and dodgy ankle would love to stick around the 18yard box surely

I'd trust Kane to come good as No9 in an Ange system more than Levy signing off on those transfers..... But again I hope I'm wrong if Kane does depart...... This would be so much easier for fans like me, if Kane handed in an actual transfer request .

Of course he can. The one caveat though; given time. Do we have that?! You know, time? We need young, hungry MF's, not legends. The romantic in me is all for him staying. The reality is that he's due something new, as are we. Let's all move the fuck on. Kane is an absolute legend!; irrefutable. Irreplaceable?!, Nope ,nobody has ever been!

 

[C1w8]

Sorry should add , I don't hanker for Kane to change his mind, just my opinion that we'll be better and stronger with him in a Spurs shirt for 1 more season....

But is that better for the two, three seasons after that when hes gone next summer in all probability?

Its more the medium term that people are thinking about, as opposed to just wanting one more season of kane irrespective of the circumstances.

 

[nailsy]

Genuine question though, how many big clubs have allowed their star player to walk on a free whilst still at his peak? We did it once before with Campbell but that was a long time ago. I’m struggling to think of many cases of this happening during the last ten years. Pogba to Juve maybe but that was a mess.

Messi went to psg on a free.

 

[Timberwolf]

I wouldn't argue with that but big club little club comparisons had already been introduced into the discussion.
What you are saying is sort of my point, those clubs accepted the situation and took the decision to make it work best for them. That's what I think we're doing and to his credit it seems Kane is not forcing it to the end of his contract.

Yeah I was trying to back up your point. Completely agree.

 

[LamelasLeftBoot]

Messi went to psg on a free.

That was a completely different situation though.

Afaik Barcelona had agreed a contract with him, but they let him leave because they couldn't register him due to some sort of wage cap