Half rant/Half serious : winter kit wimps

[SpursManChris]

In short, what the fuck?? Is it me or do said accoutrements indicate a lack of desire and/or effort?

WTF? What might it have to do with a lack of desire and or effort? They have no desire/effort, so they put long sleeves and gloves on and this represents this lack of desire/effort? Not sure where you're coming from there. If anything, it shows that they DO have desire/effort as they are doing extra to enable themselves to be more comfortable. I will say, the gloves do look REALLY fucking gay. But if it assists them, I can't see the problem. We're living in modern day football. It would be based on biological sports science.

No. If they aren't sweating buckets through commitment then why the hell not?

And what do you mean by that? Not sure how it relates to not wearing the stuff.

 

[SpursManChris]

If you've got cold feet or hands, it's just a defence mechanism; you're less inclined to do a crunching tackle because mentally it seems as though your body will shatter and it will hurt. The cold does that.

Plus muscles will be a bit more durable the warmer they are. It's easy to get cold if you're standing around for a few minutes due to an injury or whatever.

Isn't it also that we loose a big amount of our core temperature through our extremities? This happens to everyone, not just a select few, so I'm actually surprised that clubs do not force every player to wear at least gloves, the way the modern day game is and the usage of sports science. If they use GPS tracking, they should probably use gloves.

 

[SpursManChris]

I thought Diego Costa's bright blue chelsea gloves looked outrageous though.

Yep, very very gay indeed.

 

[eddiev14]

If I'd warmed up my muscles a bit better on a freezing December day a few years ago then maybe I wouldn't have torn my hamstring and been forced out of all sport for 3 months...

They aren't 'namby pambies' they are professional athletes. If things like undergarments, those plastic tape things and gloves help their bodies stay warm then that's great.

As long as they win and keep themselves fit, I don't care!

 

[JerryGarcia]

Yep, very very gay indeed.

It's all very well you calling gloves gay but you're Australian, have you ever even seen a pair of gloves? Let alone had a reason to wear them? The more extreme the temperature gets, the less we care about looking gay and that works for the heat too, look at Hawaian shirts for example.

 

[Flobadob]

This idea is so old fashioned. There's this idea that if you wear gloves in the winter it's because you aren't trying hard enough or you're a pussy and it's a load of bollocks. Some people get cold hands, it's as simple as that. I can still remember how bad it was playing under coaches that didn't allow you to wear gloves. My hands felt like they were going to fall off and it had nothing to do with how hard i was trying, in fact 2 or 3 coaches told me that i worked too hard closing down defenders and i was wasting energy. Take Lamela for example, he works his ass off closing players down, yet he was wearing gloves yesterday with a short sleeved shirt... because only his hands obviously get cold. I hope people don't continue to pass this idea down other generations because it's just ignorance IMO

 

[SpursManChris]

It's all very well you calling gloves gay but you're Australian

British Australian. Lived in UK for 13 years. During that time I wore gloves
from time to time. Just not gay, Chelsea badged, light blue ones. Even though I have earlier in this thread, generalised "gloves" as being "gay."

 

[SpursManChris]

I can still remember how bad it was playing under coaches that didn't allow you to wear gloves.

Did your coaches give a reason why they forbid it?

 

[Flobadob]

Did your coaches give a reason why they forbid it?

I can only remember one particular time during a warm up but this particular coach made us play handball (sounds ridiculous to some, but it actually improves players movement massively if you do it regularly) and me and a team mate were wearing gloves and he asked us why and my team mate came up with the brilliant excuse that it helped him grip the ball but i was just straight with him and said i wear them because my hands get seriously cold in the winter. He then threatened to drop me from the squad if he saw me wearing them again and said if my hands were cold i obviously wasn't working hard enough to warm up. Pissed me right off tbh because i worked hard every minute at football and then i had to play with freezing hands distracting me all the time. Was 15 at the time and i got released from this club for being too injury prone and during the meeting when they released me the coach told me it was only down to that and that i was one of the best trainers he'd coached and my first thought was 'Well what the fuck was all that glove shit about then?!' I honestly think it's just something people will hear from a young age, players being ridiculed for wearing gloves and it being said that they are pussies for wearing them and they will then use the same stereotype while ignorant to why players might be wearing them. I realise that it's hard to understand that while the rest of your body is absolutely fine your hands can be freezing cold and i don't get it either but that's genuinely the case for some people and it's a shame that people who are ignorant will actively discourage them from solving that problem

 

[beats1]

I can only remember one particular time during a warm up but this particular coach made us play handball (sounds ridiculous to some, but it actually improves players movement massively if you do it regularly) and me and a team mate were wearing gloves and he asked us why and my team mate came up with the brilliant excuse that it helped him grip the ball but i was just straight with him and said i wear them because my hands get seriously cold in the winter. He then threatened to drop me from the squad if he saw me wearing them again and said if my hands were cold i obviously wasn't working hard enough to warm up. Pissed me right off tbh because i worked hard every minute at football and then i had to play with freezing hands distracting me all the time. Was 15 at the time and i got released from this club for being too injury prone and during the meeting when they released me the coach told me it was only down to that and that i was one of the best trainers he'd coached and my first thought was 'Well what the fuck was all that glove shit about then?!' I honestly think it's just something people will hear from a young age, players being ridiculed for wearing gloves and it being said that they are pussies for wearing them and they will then use the same stereotype while ignorant to why players might be wearing them. I realise that it's hard to understand that while the rest of your body is absolutely fine your hands can be freezing cold and i don't get it either but that's genuinely the case for some people and it's a shame that people who are ignorant will actively discourage them from solving that problem

I have the exact same problem. I have big hands and have low blood pressure.

In the winter my hands go pretty blue as well and whilst Im running, my body is warm but my hands remain dead cold, hence me wearing short sleeves.

Even when Im going for a run in the winter people have issue with the gloves and short sleeves t shirt

 

[Flobadob]

I have the exact same problem. I have big hands and have low blood pressure.

In the winter my hands go pretty blue as well and whilst Im running, my body is warm but my hands remain dead cold, hence me wearing short sleeves.

Even when Im going for a run in the winter people have issue with the gloves and short sleeves t shirt

Thing is it's never going to be a big enough talking point for people to become more educated about it, so it's probably going to continue as an issue to some people. I just had this thought that maybe one day the subject might pop up on MOTD and they would discuss it, but research wouldn't come into it, they'd just ask for the expert opinions of Alan Shearer and Robbie Savage so i don't think we have much hope i'm afraid

 

[Gassin's finest]

Look up Rainauds Syndrome....

I'm not saying every footballer who wears gloves suffers from it, but it's a lot more common than you'd think.
My daughter loses the feeling in her fingers as soon as it gets cold - to the point where sometimes she can't walk down the freezer section in a supermarket.

I get this, have since I was a teenager. I used to wear gloves playing Sunday League and then Non League. Used to get all sorts of grief for it... "big Jessie" etc... But hey, its a thing.

 

[Kendall]

These guys are elite athletes these days, with the game built on pace and covering great distances, with sharp turns of speed. Sorry, but your games on Sunday league, trying to look hard in front of your mates is not the same.

Anything that helps maintain body temperature and thus reduces the likelihood of injuriy and illness is fine by me.

 

[Kendall]

Isn't it also that we loose a big amount of our core temperature through our extremities? This happens to everyone, not just a select few, so I'm actually surprised that clubs do not force every player to wear at least gloves, the way the modern day game is and the usage of sports science. If they use GPS tracking, they should probably use gloves.

Agreed.

Where in Aus are you based?

I found in Brisbane in particular, men carry umbrellas all the time, it is just a normal thing. Being from the North of England, there is this mentality where if it rains, you get wet. Men don't use umbrellas. It harks back to the English (particularly Northern) mentality of the stiff upper lip and I just found it ridiculous, it's just cutting your nose off to spite your face. Why get wet just to keep up appearences? In a similar vein, why should these guys get cold when they don't have to? It doesn't make them better players.

 

[SpursManChris]

Agreed.

Where in Aus are you based?

I found in Brisbane in particular, men carry umbrellas all the time, it is just a normal thing. Being from the North of England, there is this mentality where if it rains, you get wet. Men don't use umbrellas. It harks back to the English (particularly Northern) mentality of the stiff upper lip and I just found it ridiculous, it's just cutting your nose off to spite your face. Why get wet just to keep up appearences? In a similar vein, why should these guys get cold when they don't have to? It doesn't make them better players.

I'm in New South Wales. Yeah, I suppose as the Aussies are not used to the rain, it catches them by surprise and the panic as if it's fucking acid falling from the sky, so out the brollies will come. But at the same time, people don't want to get wet, even the hard men. If you were seeing men carrying umbrellas "all the time" then you must have been in Brisbane during a particularly wet period.

 

[Kendall]

I'm in New South Wales. Yeah, I suppose as the Aussies are not used to the rain, it catches them by surprise and the panic as if it's fucking acid falling from the sky, so out the brollies will come. But at the same time, people don't want to get wet, even the hard men. If you were seeing men carrying umbrellas "all the time" then you must have been in Brisbane during a particularly wet period.

I was there July to March, it was pretty standard due to their wet summers, but we're talking warm rain here as well. In England you're just supposed to get wet, cold, ill and deal with it.

The Prem is busy over the winter period and anything that helps limit the chance of players getting illness has to be worth it. These guys have very low body fat percentages as well, it all contributes.

 

[TottenhamMattSpur]

Sports science has changed.
We now know that keeping warm and keeping good blood flow increases performance in cold weather. We also know that those factors reduce injuries as well.
It's not just the biology that's advanced too, clothing has advanced. When i was a kid in the 80's and 90's , if i wanted to play in the winter it would need thick tracksuits and various layers to not freeze my tits off. Now they have super thin base layers that really do help keep you warm. IIfully support players wearing them and, in fact, encourage it.

****s in gloves can fuck off though.

 

[spurs9]

Agreed.

Where in Aus are you based?

I found in Brisbane in particular, men carry umbrellas all the time, it is just a normal thing. Being from the North of England, there is this mentality where if it rains, you get wet. Men don't use umbrellas. It harks back to the English (particularly Northern) mentality of the stiff upper lip and I just found it ridiculous, it's just cutting your nose off to spite your face. Why get wet just to keep up appearences? In a similar vein, why should these guys get cold when they don't have to? It doesn't make them better players.

I'm a notherner too but I now live in NZ and the guys here have no problem carrying umbrellas. Personally I find them a pain especially If it's windy and perfer a jacket with a hood but each to there own.

Where from the north are you from (I don't think it's Kendal since your username has 2 l's).

 

[Kendall]

I'm a notherner too but I now live in NZ and the guys here have no problem carrying umbrellas. Personally I find them a pain especially If it's windy and perfer a jacket with a hood but each to there own.

Where from the north are you from (I don't think it's Kendal since your username has 2 l's).

York mate, but the lineage does indeed trace back to Cumbria!

 

[spurs9]

York mate, but the lineage does indeed trace back to Cumbria!

You're from Yorkshire, that explains a lot . I was born and bred in Morecambe myself.