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Half rant/Half serious : winter kit wimps

Should the players be allowed to wear winter extras?

  • Of course! The tender, precious little things should be allowed to snuggle up against the cold.

    Votes: 11 12.2%
  • Well if long sleeves or gloves keeps 'em warm, ready and productive then sure.

    Votes: 68 75.6%
  • No. If they aren't sweating buckets through commitment then why the hell not?

    Votes: 11 12.2%

  • Total voters
    90

alamo

Don't worry be happy
Jun 10, 2004
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I hate to be a dick, but this is a very naive and ignorant stance you're making here.

Feck me mate, I was just trying to light-heartedly incite some opinions.

Wasn't trying to get caught up in a debate regarding genetics and any natural biological condition potentially resulting in a physical sweat or not (apologies to @WalkerboyUK if that came across as otherwise).

Was just alluding to the fact that maybe, just maybe, some of our lazy wage-collecting wankers might just benefit from the artful dodgers words of wisdom - "just run about a bit".
 

DaSpurs

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Jan 20, 2013
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Feck me mate, I was just trying to light-heartedly incite some opinions.

Wasn't trying to get caught up in a debate regarding genetics and any natural biological condition potentially resulting in a physical sweat or not (apologies to @WalkerboyUK if that came across as otherwise).

Was just alluding to the fact that maybe, just maybe, some of our lazy wage-collecting wankers might just benefit from the artful dodgers words of wisdom - "just run about a bit".

Look man, I'm with you on busting the balls of the lazy ones, but if your attempt at having some fun is on the back of an easily held misconception, then it has the potential of adding to the negativity of mindsets people have towards the players and even potentially other people in general.

I was a coach myself actually, and my motto to and for my team was "no bitchassness." But you have to correctly sort out the weaknesses people can and cannot help, otherwise it makes you sound as though some ignorant no-toothed geezah ;)
 

JerryGarcia

Dark star crashes...
May 18, 2006
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Could not give a toss if they wear gloves or whatever else they have, if anything I'd encourage it if it's genuinely cold. Since it makes no difference to anyone apart from the player himself there's no legitimate complaint against glove wearing anyway.

How many would turn up to watch if the crowd was only allowed to wear shorts and a t-shirt? :playful:
 

alamo

Don't worry be happy
Jun 10, 2004
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Look man, I'm with you on busting the balls of the lazy ones, but if your attempt at having some fun is on the back of an easily held misconception, then it has the potential of adding to the negativity of mindsets people have towards the players and even potentially other people in general.

I was a coach myself actually, and my motto to and for my team was "no bitchassness." But you have to correctly sort out the weaknesses people can and cannot help, otherwise it makes you sound as though some ignorant no-toothed geezah ;)

Well I've never been a coach, so I guess that makes me an ignorant no-toothed geezah. I can't deny that. ;)

Thank fuck my wife is a dentist (honest truth!)

Think you are getting a bit too caught up in the initial post.

Can't you tell from the poll options it wasn't meant seriously?
 

ajspurs

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Jul 7, 2007
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I really don't care to be honest. I mean you'll get some who say it reflects what type of person they are, that you're a 'pussy' if you wear gloves etc. but if it doesn't detract in any way from the performance of the player who cares.

Some people just feel the cold more than others, for whatever reason. If I was too cold without gloves I'd wear gloves, if I was too cold without a snood I'd wear a snood etc. Wouldn't give a fuck about anything else or what anyone was saying.
 

Bobbins

SC's 14th Sexiest Male 2008
May 5, 2005
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Quite surprised that the results (although relatively few) so far are quite so accepting.

My personal opinion is that is that if they aren't utterly busting a gut and are absolutely sweating their tits off by then end of a match then they aren't worthy to wear the shirt.

I ranted quite a bit...
 
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DaSpurs

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Jan 20, 2013
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Well I've never been a coach, so I guess that makes me an ignorant no-toothed geezah. I can't deny that. ;)

Thank fuck my wife is a dentist (honest truth!)

Think you are getting a bit too caught up in the initial post.

Can't you tell from the poll options it wasn't meant seriously?

Haha hey man, that's a nice catch then.

Yeah I was aware it was a joke, but tbh it's one I take issue with. I personally don't have any issues that cause my discomfort in the cold (and I agree that the gloves with no long sleeve look utterly ridiculous), but with my own experience in medicine I know many people who simply cannot help their struggle with cold, and furthermore struggle with it psychologically.

So I'm sorry to be the geezah myself and harshing on your fun.
 

alamo

Don't worry be happy
Jun 10, 2004
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blah blah/QUOTE]How many would turn up to watch if the crowd was only
allowed to wear shorts and a t-shirt? :playful:

Well according to Sepp Blatter that is exactly what would promote womens football
 

ERO

The artist f.k.a Steffen Freund - Mentalist ****
Jun 8, 2003
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You're all really a bunch of southern pussies though.

I remember football trainings in the winter as a kid. So cold that you can feel it freeze in your nostrils when you breathe. The gravel pitch was like concrete with a layer of little rocks. You'd have no choice but to fucking round about a bit if you wanted to survive. Obviously no gloves was worn. And the hot showers after, oooof, pain.
 

alamo

Don't worry be happy
Jun 10, 2004
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That doesn't make any sense, and it's amazing to me that people still think a player wearing gloves or a long sleeve shirt is a 'Nancy boy' and should man up.

It doesn't make sense because no player will spend the whole game covering every blade of grass etc - teams like Spurs will get regular games where we're the dominant side and the defenders, especially CB's, have very little to do for long periods of time. How are they supposed to work up this magical Committment Sweat - start doing circuits round the pitch, or stop and do 20 push ups every few minutes?

Equally, players aren't always going to have the stamina to play at 100% murderous intensity for a whole 90 minutes, and if they do, will run out of energy faster than the opposition who will dominate and stretch them later on. This is what happens to plucky FA Cup minnows every year - they go mad for an hour then get beaten in the last 30. When it's two fairly even teams you need to manage your energy reserves.

Finally, with regard to gloves and Under Armour etc - I play football all year round and you can shove it up your arse if you think I'm not wearing gloves and an undertop during the winter. If im painfully cold how can I be expected to play to my full potential? Running around only was your core temperature, not your extremities (I'm another who suffers from painful hands and feet in the coldest weather).

Is it 1976 again all of a sudden? Outdated thinking.

Oh calm yourself mate, was never meant to be offensive or serious
 

spurs9

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Aug 31, 2012
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You're all really a bunch of southern pussies though.

I remember football trainings in the winter as a kid. So cold that you can feel it freeze in your nostrils when you breathe. The gravel pitch was like concrete with a layer of little rocks. You'd have no choice but to fucking round about a bit if you wanted to survive. Obviously no gloves was worn. And the hot showers after, oooof, pain.
I bet if you had to play football in 35 degree heat you would be crawling on the floor desperate for water and shade, whereas most of the players wearing gloves in English winter wouldo be in there element. It's about what Temps your used to and genetically predisposed to.
 

ERO

The artist f.k.a Steffen Freund - Mentalist ****
Jun 8, 2003
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I bet if you had to play football in 35 degree heat you would be crawling on the floor desperate for water and shade, whereas most of the players wearing gloves in English winter wouldo be in there element. It's about what Temps your used to and genetically predisposed to.
You mean like whinging like sissies if you'd have to play in a certain world cup city? Pfff. No Northern Europeans would ever do that.
 

onthetwo

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May 19, 2006
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The short sleeves and gloves combo is what bothers me.

Grrr.
BBC had some expert on saying that extremeties need to be warm in order to maintain concentration.
On that basis, and if true, we should be making ALL of them wear gloves!!
 

spurs9

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Aug 31, 2012
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You mean like whinging like sissies if you'd have to play in a certain world cup city? Pfff. No Northern Europeans would ever do that.
Yeah. I even heard that, if we qualify, for the Qatar World Cup, some of the players are planning on taking sunscreen, the pussies.
 

scat1620

L'espion mal fait
May 11, 2008
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Exactly as S.Mouse! already excellently posted, that's only something that would annoy me if I'm already pissed off with the players. If they're playing well then they can wrap up like Scott of the Antarctic, if they're playing poorly then gloves etc might well niggle me a little bit.

See also: players who wear boots in any other colour than black.
 

Nerine

Juicy corned beef
Jan 27, 2011
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You're missing the point.

I remember when I used to play competitively. Yes, it got fucking cold sometimes. But I'll tell you what, you do feel more inclined to stick a boot or limb in where it hurts if all your appendages are nice and warm.

If you've got cold feet or hands, it's just a defence mechanism; you're less inclined to do a crunching tackle because mentally it seems as though your body will shatter and it will hurt. The cold does that.

Plus muscles will be a bit more durable the warmer they are. It's easy to get cold if you're standing around for a few minutes due to an injury or whatever.
 
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