Four Spurs players facing 10-day hotel quarantine after international break

[easley91]

If it was one player you could say admin error, but all four is dodgy as hell. If they didn't quarantine/lied whatever then fair enough. But the game didn't need to start if they knew that all along. I get the PR angle for the Brazilian health authority, however to me I just sit and think why didn't you do something sooner?

Nobody comes out of this well.

 

[whitesocks]

Well he's going to be travelling and quarantining both ways every month until Easter. So realistically isn't going to be a part of the first team for any tangible time until the final part of the season. So I think it's a fair question as to whether we might have been better to sign him next summer and put our focus elsewhere for this season.

Careful! The SoPs will be after you!

 

[cockerel downunder]

as others have said why would Brazil call up uk based players if they were intending to enforce quarantine? They have clearly changed their approach out of spite when their players didn’t come. My guess is Argentina were expecting some kind of elite sport exemption (see William) and when realising it wasn’t there decided to just wing it and lie on the forms. I doubt the players knew anything about it.

 

[MR_BEN]

as others have said why would Brazil call up uk based players if they were intending to enforce quarantine? They have clearly changed their approach out of spite when their players didn’t come. My guess is Argentina were expecting some kind of elite sport exemption (see William) and when realising it wasn’t there decided to just wing it and lie on the forms. I doubt the players knew anything about it.

The Argentinian FA have already come out and said they have done nothing wrong, there is an agreed exemption and secure bubble process in place amongst all South American nations and all protocols have been followed.

Stinks of Brazil sulking because they didn’t get their own way.

 

[chrissivad]

Interesting timeline of how this clusterfuck played out

It will be interesting to see what comes out over the next few days, but reading that, it's not looking good for Brazil.

 

[gio747]

I’m not sure we’d have had a choice. Argentina and Brazil are different kettle of fish to other South American nations. Players like Lo Celso would likely never play for them again if they refuse a call up .

@Flynn would love to hear you’re reasoning for the DOH. Do you have inside knowledge on the contractual situation around realising players or do you believe a player like Lo Celso treading water at Spurs is so invaluable to Argentina, him rejecting a call up wouldn’t affect his place in the team?

 

[sherbornespurs]

This is proper authoritarian bullshit. Yes they lied and are in the wrong, but letting the match start and stopping it after five minutes is just a big propaganda flex.

FIFA should come down like a tonne of bricks on both Argentina and Brazil.

The irony here is that Bolsonaro hasn't given a tuppenny toss about Covid for the past 18 months, so no surprise that Brazil has suffered the world's 2nd highest number of Covid deaths.

Nothing to do with the national elections next year, and him being behind in the polls?.....of course not.

 

[cjsimba]

Having a bit of a mind blank but how have international games worked in the past with covid? Did footballers previously get special dispensation not to have to quarantine when coming back to the UK after being in eg. South America?

Or did the likes of Gio have to quarantine for 10 days after the winter international games back in 2020?

I can’t remember any of our players missing games due to quarantining previously? Or have I made that up?

 

[easley91]

Having a bit of a mind blank but how have international games worked in the past with covid? Did footballers previously get special dispensation not to have to quarantine when coming back to the UK after being in eg. South America?

Or did the likes of Gio have to quarantine for 10 days after the winter international games back in 2020?

I can’t remember any of our players missing games due to quarantining previously? Or have I made that up?

Might be wrong but wasn't there elite sportsperson exemptions?

 

[Neon_Knight_]

Even if the Argentina camp kept everything hushed and wouldn't let medical officials into their team hotel / training venue, the line-ups would have been announced in advance (confirming of who would be entering the field of play), so the game should never have commenced. It couldn't really have been managed any worse...except by letting the game go on for longer before invading the pitch.

 

[yankspurs]

Presumably, same for Buendia, Gio & Cuti. Hope it remains true after this debacle

 

[Locotoro]

This is proper authoritarian bullshit. Yes they lied and are in the wrong, but letting the match start and stopping it after five minutes is just a big propaganda flex.

FIFA should come down like a tonne of bricks on both Argentina and Brazil.

FIFA has no authority on the Brazilian health ministry. The Brazilian national team has no obvious culpability in this. Whereas Argentina can and should be punished for trying to play players that should have been quarantined.

 

[thekneaf]

FIFA has no authority on the Brazilian health ministry. The Brazilian national team has no obvious culpability in this. Whereas Argentina can and should be punished for trying to play players that should have been quarantined.

It appears that some parts of the feder government ok'd it and other parts rejected that decision.

Basically foreign office rubber stamped it, but the department of health disagreed, would be a crude analogy of the impression I've got reading around it.

 

[PCozzie]

The irony here is that Bolsonaro hasn't given a tuppenny toss about Covid for the past 18 months, so no surprise that Brazil has suffered the world's 2nd highest number of Covid deaths.

Nothing to do with the national elections next year, and him being behind in the polls?.....of course not.

If this tweet is to be believed then far from the Brazilian Government going in all strong-armed it seems they granted an exemption for the Argentinian players, but an arm of the health department then acted unilaterally.

It's a complete mess, of course, but I'm not sure this has been the co-ordinated PR job some think it is.

 

[wrd]

Lots of noise coming out that they'll be flying to croatia for monday, hopefully putting an end to this nonsense. Quite relieved after the Argentina manager was suggesting they wouldn't honour it.

 

[ZiggySpurs]

 

[EQP]

Brazil-Argentina abandoned over Covid issue

Brazil and Argentina's World Cup qualifier is abandoned after Brazilian health officials walked onto the pitch minutes after kick off to object to the participation of three Argentine players.

www.bbc.com

 

[Ossie85]

The irony here is that Bolsonaro hasn't given a tuppenny toss about Covid for the past 18 months, so no surprise that Brazil has suffered the world's 2nd highest number of Covid deaths.

Nothing to do with the national elections next year, and him being behind in the polls?.....of course not.

I don't think this was Bolsonaro. The game was being held in Sao Paulo, and the quarantines are decided by each state government. The governor of Sao Paulo is pro quarantine as is a social democrat. They are against Bolsonaro

 

[Flynn]

@Flynn would love to hear you’re reasoning for the DOH. Do you have inside knowledge on the contractual situation around realising players or do you believe a player like Lo Celso treading water at Spurs is so invaluable to Argentina, him rejecting a call up wouldn’t affect his place in the team?

yes that… or it was a fat finger mistake. Removed.

 

[Coolbury]

I hope the club make some sort of statement on this and do not leave Nuno to be questioned over the whole affair regarding Lo Celso & Romero at the pre Palace press conference , whoever our press officer is should refuse any questions to Nuno on world cup affairs.
Ultimately who takes resposibility for this, all countries have different covid rules and as in the UK rules can vary between different regions of a country , England, Scotland , Wales & N Ireland all have different rules, I am sure other countries are the same. Looks like FIFA are going to have to carefully check the rules for wherever their WC games are being played in future.