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Ex-Manager watch: Antonio Conte

dricha1

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Having read his comments I think it’s a further dig at the board rather than the fans. We the fans are impatient for a trophy it’s been 15years….the board though are in no rush for a trophy…that’s the reality he speaks of…
 

fishhhandaricecake

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Never go after the fans.

Especially when you don't play on the front foot football.

You will always come off worse and lose any support you have

💯 those embargo’d comments coming out will not go down well AT ALL!

We’ve been very fucking patient as a fanbase but the last 3 years have been horrible negative and toxic and a huge reason for that is the style of play and the personalities of the 3 managers.

If Conte thinks we have run out of patience just because we’ve not won something in the 18months he’s been here he is deluded. We’ve run out of patience watching barely watchable horrible negative anti-football whilst whimpering out without even a fight or attempt to try and create chances or score and win against Sheff.Utd reserves, Wolves, N.Forrest, AC Milan etc. There is nothing to get excited about AT ALL watching us and that COMBINED with not progressing far in any cup competitions and Conte not committing his future to us is why we’ve run out of patience with you Antonio.

There has been absolutely nothing to cheer or get excited about in some of the recent performances and I mean NOTHING, we didn’t have a shot that troubled the keeper against AC Milan until the 94th minute and we looked equally toothless against Sheffield Utd reserves where Conte also decided to rest our best 2 players.

Patience my arse Antonio, oh and as for the won everywhere else but at Tottenham and the ‘I can show you the way to win with time and patience’ whilst serving up shite football and not committing to a longer term deal… you can absolutely do one mate.

He’s in full self preservation mode and it’s a shame because our fans have actually been very good to him supporting him throughout his struggles this year so to now insult us like this smacks of ego.

The sooner he is gone the better and if he gets a prickly reception tomorrow now then it’s his own fault after these comments.
 

easley91

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What a cock. We’ve been the most patient fanbase in the league. He won’t even commit to a longer contract. Just as well serving up the shit we’ve had to watch this season.
Ah yes so patient we boo passes, players and half time scores. He keeps telling us the players aren't good enough, something many on here and social media constantly like to bring up themselves. Our oh so patient fanbase writes off players after one game or a sub appearance. Yeah we're not as patient as you think.

Maybe he could say it better, but he isn't necessarily wrong with what he is saying. He said from day one it would take multiple windows and time.

He should go in my mind, but these comments aren't something to get upset over.
 

fishhhandaricecake

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Ah yes so patient we boo passes, players and half time scores. He keeps telling us the players aren't good enough, something many on here and social media constantly like to bring up themselves. Our oh so patient fanbase writes off players after one game or a sub appearance. Yeah we're not as patient as you think.

Maybe he could say it better, but he isn't necessarily wrong with what he is saying. He said from day one it would take multiple windows and time.

He should go in my mind, but these comments aren't something to get upset over.
He’s had 3 windows and time and we’ve got far worse than end of last season.
 

Albertbarich

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He's trying to get sacked now.

I'm trying not to get offended as this is a man who is not well, tired and is clearly getting an angle to go home but...

I'm sick of them all. The fans haven't done anything wrong at all. We have moaners and some people sign unhelpful songs. Every fanbase has that. What we also have is packed houses with ticket prices that his precious Serie A could only dream of charging, we have the best away support or one of in the country and we have a fanbase who has watched the most un-entertaining football in the countries top entertainment venue and has lumped it so this "winner" can bring us trophies.

Except he's miles off, can't beat lower league teams , can't win a champions league knock out tie and is fracturing his squad quick time but I suppose that's our fault too.

Just bore off with this bollocks. You want patience? How about you commit, how about you admit fault , how about you learn how to coach more than a game a week

If he wants to leave now then do it. He already has more money than most of us could ever dream of. We don't deserve this and if you think we do then have a look at yourself because I for one won't let pricks like this belittle us and make us think we can't possibly ask him to do his job.
 

fishhhandaricecake

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He's trying to get sacked now.

I'm trying not to get offended as this is a man who is not well, tired and is clearly getting an angle to go home but...

I'm sick of them all. The fans haven't done anything wrong at all. We have moaners and some people sign unhelpful songs. Every fanbase has that. What we also have is packed houses with ticket prices that his precious Serie A could only dream of charging, we have the best away support or one of in the country and we have a fanbase who has watched the most un-entertaining football in the countries top entertainment venue and has lumped it so this "winner" can bring us trophies.

Except he's miles off, can't beat lower league teams , can't win a champions league knock out tie and is fracturing his squad quick time but I suppose that's our fault too.

Just bore off with this bollocks. You want patience? How about you commit, how about you admit fault , how about you learn how to coach more than a game a week

If he wants to leave now then do it. He already has more money than most of us could ever dream of. We don't deserve this and if you think we do then have a look at yourself because I for one won't let pricks like this belittle us and make us think we can't possibly ask him to do his job.
Great post hear hear 💪
 

fishhhandaricecake

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Compare to first 18 months of Klopp at Liverpool, from match 1 against us they pressed the life out of us and it was clear what Klopps plan was, it was exciting and they just kept getting let down by Karius and Lovern etc making mistakes but there were plenty of shoots of encouragement outside of that in terms of patterns of play, chances created etc and Klopp was on a longer term deal and he spoke positively and passionately about building Liverpool up.

Then they got Allison & Van Dijk and the rest is history.

We under Conte don’t have the same situation at all for so many reasons (Conte won’t commit longer term, he speaks about us negatively and as if he’s above the job, the football is dire, we go entire games not looking like scoring, Plan A is often predictable and toothless and there is no Plan B, subs are too cautious and defensive, players look bored and demotivated and confused and aren’t improving…etc etc! )

So for him to call us as fans out as being impatient with him is bang out of order and either he’s deluded or wants the sack or both.
 

SpursSince1980

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Definitely the first time I can recall us having a manager who so openly belittles the club and fans that pay his wages. Who has inferred since day 1, that he’s punching below his weight, and that he is lowering himself to our standards. Doing us a favor.

I know many hated Jose because of his ego and narcissistic tendencies. But I do not remember him consistently speaking about the club as if it was a rental car. Yes, he can be grating. But I never felt like he perceived us as a charity case.

Fuck Conte. It’s quite obvious he doesnt care or respect the club and fans. I know he’s had a rough ride recently, but all he’s doing now is speaking without a filter. Not sure how it is feasible for him to remain.
 
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MR_BEN

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Ah yes so patient we boo passes, players and half time scores. He keeps telling us the players aren't good enough, something many on here and social media constantly like to bring up themselves. Our oh so patient fanbase writes off players after one game or a sub appearance. Yeah we're not as patient as you think.

Maybe he could say it better, but he isn't necessarily wrong with what he is saying. He said from day one it would take multiple windows and time.

He should go in my mind, but these comments aren't something to get upset over.
No manager should ever come out and publicly say the players aren’t good enough though.

The blokes awful, absolutely awful.

As for his - give me patience and time and I’ll show you how to win bollocks…. That’s exactly what it is. Bollocks.

If he had a history of turning teams around over a prolonged period it would make sense. But he doesn’t - he has a history of come in, spend money, win trophies - and the the following season fall out with everybody and get fired.

As for going after the fans - good luck with that. I hope he has a really really uncomfortable reception on Saturday afternoon.
 

rossdapep

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Compare to first 18 months of Klopp at Liverpool, from match 1 against us they pressed the life out of us and it was clear what Klopps plan was, it was exciting and they just kept getting let down by Karius and Lovern etc making mistakes but there were plenty of shoots of encouragement outside of that in terms of patterns of play, chances created etc and Klopp was on a longer term deal and he spoke positively and passionately about building Liverpool up.

Then they got Allison & Van Dijk and the rest is history.

We under Conte don’t have the same situation at all for so many reasons (Conte won’t commit longer term, he speaks about us negatively and as if he’s above the job, the football is dire, we go entire games not looking like scoring, Plan A is often predictable and toothless and there is no Plan B, subs are too cautious and defensive, players look bored and demotivated and confused and aren’t improving…etc etc! )

So for him to call us as fans out as being impatient with him is bang out of order and either he’s deluded or wants the sack or both.
Klopp never made excuses either (other than the weather) or criticised the fans. He knew he needed their patience so delivered positive messages. His football helped as you said.
 

robotsonic

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Ah yes so patient we boo passes, players and half time scores. He keeps telling us the players aren't good enough, something many on here and social media constantly like to bring up themselves. Our oh so patient fanbase writes off players after one game or a sub appearance. Yeah we're not as patient as you think.

Maybe he could say it better, but he isn't necessarily wrong with what he is saying. He said from day one it would take multiple windows and time.

He should go in my mind, but these comments aren't something to get upset over.
I too when entering a new high profile and pressure job would play down expectations and set myself up for a lot of time to achieve anything in case I don't

The reason the wheels have blown off is that he's still trying to claim that we're more shit than teams we're definitely better than, and gaslighting us into thinking that we're not ready to be beating teams like Sheffield United because we need more time and patience to come into his "idea of football". Watching his idea of football in this day and age is like sitting through a deeply uncomfortable David Cronenberg film.

For me these read as pure damage control for his ego and image and setting up for the absolutely inevitable. The sooner the better imo. I don't support this club to see us win anything, but I certainly do support this club to have the hope to. But how he has set us up this season is absolutely without any hope, while he keeps talking about how little hope we have of doing anything. How can we have patience with that attitude?
 

SargeantMeatCurtains

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I’m not sure what’s worse:

The fact Conte is still our manager but is trying his hardest to get sacked by openly criticising the club and now the fans in pre and post game press conferences…

Or the fact Levy/Paratici is sitting back allowing him to continue to stick the knife into the club and do absolutely nothing about it.

One thing is for certain: Conte is an utter dickhead who isn’t prepared to accept responsibility for his inability to coach players. We need to sack him now. He can’t just be allowed to walk away at the end of the season. He actually deserves to have his reputation damaged for the clown show he’s created at the club this season.
 

McFlash

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But you see the point in chanting against Levy who is not going to sell the club, or suddenly run it completely differently - regardless of the chants?

I’m not fussed by the Poch chants one way or another (definitely against anything that may turn supporters on each other if that’s the case though)

But I’d be fully in support for any Conte Out chants though. He and Levy need to know what the fans think, and want - because this is something Levy can change.
See, I don't actually want Levy or ENIC to sell the club because they've done a lot of good for us.
What I want is for Levy to understand that us fans are sick of the way he's been running things.
He comes out with soundbites about the Spurs DNA but it feels like he's completely out of touch with what we as a fanbase want.

Conte is a dead man walking at this stage, so any chants against him will do nothing but deflect from the real issue, which is Levy's meddling and constantly trying to do things on the cheap.

I don't even particularly want Levy to fuck off, just to get a massive reality check and to realise that at the end of the day, he's accountable for the mess that we're in.
He needs to buck up his ideas and to make his mind up about what we want the be as a club.
No more lip service and bullshit.
 

DiVaio

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Ah yes so patient we boo passes, players and half time scores. He keeps telling us the players aren't good enough, something many on here and social media constantly like to bring up themselves. Our oh so patient fanbase writes off players after one game or a sub appearance. Yeah we're not as patient as you think.

Maybe he could say it better, but he isn't necessarily wrong with what he is saying. He said from day one it would take multiple windows and time.

He should go in my mind, but these comments aren't something to get upset over.
But the fans were patient? Pretty sure even in last month they have been singings his chants etc. He's been here for 3 windows, tomorrow will be his 75th game at Spurs.
He can't expect fans to be patient when we are regressing every month and his contract is expiring in 3 months
 

Rout-Ledge

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I know many hated Jose because of his ego and narcissistic tendencies. But I do not remember him consistently speaking about the club as if it was a rental car. Yes, he can be grating. But I never felt like he perceived us as a charity case.
I agree. I hated Jose’s football but as a person I actually quite liked him. I can’t say the same for dear old Antonio.

Laying blame at the fans’ door after he’s had some consistently vocal support, particularly away from home, even whilst serving up genuinely pathetic football, is beyond the pale. It shows him up for what he really is. Shame on him.
 

piedpiper

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I’m not interested in what he’s said in the press conference - as others have pointed out he’s now interested in one thing, and one thing only: self-preservation. He is hoping for the sack, but will absolutely not quit before the end of his lucrative contract. He has a right to do that - no comment on the morality of that from me

The depressing situation we now find ourselves in - a rudderless ship with a manager who couldn’t make it more obvious that he doesn’t want to be here - is entirely on Levy. He needs to take ownership of this situation. He’s already missed the obvious opportunity to do that. To borrow a Peep Show-ism, ‘daddy’s hat’ well and truly fell off in the summer of 2021 during the cataclysmic and baffling managerial search. The aforementioned hat is still AWOL. Levy has been maddeningly frustrating at times, over the years. But I’d argue it’s only since 2021 that he’s made decisions that are obviously completely wrong. I also have zero faith in Paratici making good strategic decisions, and I’m concerned that he holds too much sway with Levy and the club.
The majority of fans have wanted Daniel to stay the hell away from all football related matters and leave it to Paratici to hire and fire..... when Levy does this suddenly he has gone awol. We seriously need to make up our minds as a fan base as to the role we want Daniel Levy to play.
 

Rout-Ledge

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The majority of fans have wanted Daniel to stay the hell away from all football related matters and leave it to Paratici to hire and fire..... when Levy does this suddenly he has gone awol. We seriously need to make up our minds as a fan base as to the role we want Daniel Levy to play.
I’m one person, I don’t represent the fanbase. I always thought the Paratici hire was a mistake. I don’t think he’s the right man for the job, and I never did.
 
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