southlondonyiddo
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Does need to be sold. Like 4/5 others, still!!
Eric Dier
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yeah eventually but he's good enough for a few cup games here and there, these conference league games or early stages of the cups he's serviceable
starting the league games absolutely no chance, it is strange people are extremely critical about sanchez during these last 2 seasons when Dier has started every game and we've been poor defensively
theShiznit
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whenstevewentup
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2021 and him and Davies are starting for spurs when we don’t have any injury problems in defence
muppetman
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The whole team are a mess. Son looked like a mid table winger today, Kane looked like a Championship clogger. Lo Celson
When everyone looks shit, maybe, just maybe it's not a lack of individual quality but a more systemic problem?
The only player who came out of today with any sort of positive was Romero.
But hey, if you get your jollies from picking on specific players go for it.
mpickard2087
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I think that's a harsh take on what happened. Goal two he is making himself available for a pass from Hojbjerg so we can switch play and progress out to the left hand side. Fairly sure the pass is meant for him and Skipp gets in the way and then we end up in big bother. Then what happens after that is Romero gets himself in a right mess positionally but I'd ask people to go back and watch what Hojbjerg does, he is actually right with Cavani but when Skipp gets dispossessed he actually puts his head down and starts sulking and Cavani runs off into the distance from him and scores. If he doesn't have such a childish petulant reaction to what happens and runs back immediately then who knows, he could very well have been in a position to stop it.
Goal three I think he could be more aware of the chasm that's been left for Rashford, you'd hope so, but that was still about the right side of the defence really. Neither Emerson or Hojbjerg take responsibility for filling in as the centre back and both get caught out badly. I think Romero also is looking at it and should be screaming at one of them to fill in and be aware of the man. Son and Ndombele's combined attempt to stop the pass is also dismal.
If Dier was bad, others were much worse.
southlondonyiddo
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People defending Dier lol
He’s so average in a back four. In fact he’s below average in the premier league
Good mentality though, blah blah blah blah
He’s so average in a back four. In fact he’s below average in the premier league
Good mentality though, blah blah blah blah
septicsac
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Was never good enough as a defender, has too many mistakes in him, play well for 88 minutes, but cost you a goal in the other 2 minutes. Both him and Sanchez gave Levy the out he wanted after 3 games by playing half decent, meaning he had an excuse not to replace them, but we all knew it wouldnt last
chrisd2k
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For all Jose's faults even he came to the correct conclusion that neither Sanchez or Dier are good enough and Joe got game time. Tanga deserves a game in his actual position too. He was doing very well at Palace until he lost his head with Zaha. That's an experience thing though not just a being shit thing
But that one is clearly a coaching issue when 2/3 of those players are proven already. 9 goals scored all season speaks to that.
Dier looking shit isn't a new thing, he's looked rubbish for almost 2 seasons now, why did his CB partner look fine whilst he looked awful (Again...) this go to excuse of picking on players...LOL let Ndombele have a bad game and people will say he needs to be sold or questioning his work ethic or god knows what, meanwhile Dier gets away with two seasons of the same mistakes
3 goals conceded, two of which he could've prevented or done way better, stop making excuses
Typical response honestly, when it's Dier everyone else needs to take responsibility for some reason
Second goal, he does not need to be that far forward to switch play. What exactly changes if he's in line with Romero instead of where he was? He can still switch the ball and he's covering himself. It's poor defensive awareness.
Goal three why should everyone tell him to watch the guy making a run off of him? It's no on Emerson, it's not on Hojberg it's on him. He's ball watching (Again) instead of watching the player, if you watch him you see how often he does this. It is basic defending to not leave such an open and inviting pass
The fan base needs to accept they are allowing mediocrity in the club everytime they let Dier get away with empty headed mistakes
The Apprentice
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There is nothing that Dier does that Sanchez can’t do, apart from being faux blood and guts.
DiamondLites
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Where does the good mentality bollocks come from? He has had countless mental lapses in his time with us, he always points the finger at others when he makes a rick and he has been at the heart of a group of players who have down tooled on Poch, Jose and are now playing pathetically for another manager
He’s a painfully average, the fact he has been a mainstay of our first team tells you all you need to know - lack of investment in the squad and keeping players around who are not up to snuff
He’s a painfully average, the fact he has been a mainstay of our first team tells you all you need to know - lack of investment in the squad and keeping players around who are not up to snuff
mpickard2087
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Haha!! You know you're saying this to a guy who used to get hammered most weeks for saying Dier was a crap midfielder and that he was ruining his career by playing there and would never be able to pick it back up at centre back? If it was up to me he'd probably have been sold about 5 years back if he'd refused at that point to accept his focus should be in defence. I've probably given Dier more stick than 99.9% of the forum, so cut that crap mate right away.
Goal two - Maybe he could stay back, but he's tried to take the ball moving forward. We ask our team/players to be brave, get on the front foot, and take risks. Except when it doesn't go well we then start moaning.... That goal is still primarily on Skipp for getting dispossessed, Romero for getting himself in a mess positionally, and Hojbjerg's shit petulant reaction allowing Cavani to run away from him - and bollocks like that I'm most concerned about because it's so fucking avoidable compared to rewiring someone technically/tactically and he's apparently one of our senior pro's and leaders and reacting like that.
Goal three I agreed he could probably have been more aware, Rashford, and the angle of the pass, is way more down the channel for the right centre back to cover though and for you to say Dier should have done something about it yet all the others (PEH, Emerson, and even Romero) who have Rashford right in their vicinity and abdicate all responsibility for defending that side of the pitch are totally blameless is pretty ludicrous.
I can get you're fed up with him, want him gone, etc. I'm not adverse at all to giving him criticism, but your posts just come across as angry bias heaping it all on him when I think re. yesterday that's nonsense and others were at least and usually much more culpable.
southlondonyiddo
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Mediocrity all over the pitch now
BringBack_leGin
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I can’t hammer the defence as, frankly, the lack of any idea of how to play with a ball we had the majority of meant that tactical genius Solkjaer merely needed to wait for enough of our side to be camped in their half, leave his three to class forwards forward and wait for our inevitable loss of possession from a sloppy pass to have our defence on the back foot with no protection.
Don’t get me wrong, Dier and Davies are both players who I’d rather weren’t starting for us in 21/22, but much like when we got turned over under AVB, a side who can’t unpick even the simplest of puzzles when in possession will always screw over its defence.
Don’t get me wrong, Dier and Davies are both players who I’d rather weren’t starting for us in 21/22, but much like when we got turned over under AVB, a side who can’t unpick even the simplest of puzzles when in possession will always screw over its defence.
The first goal was completely his fault, lost his man in the corner kick. I think the BCC player rating is quite accurate: https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/59154773
Nebby
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Sorry mate, but that’s absolute rubbish. Romero pushed one of their players, who fell directly in front of Dier. That’s how the goal scorer got ahead of him. Dier didn’t “lose” anyone. If you want to blame someone for the first goal, blame Romero.
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