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[fishhhandaricecake]

I havent shared this in here yet but I started working as a scout for a European club to find talent in Brazil.

This has helped me to understand how things work a lot closely and Tottenhams set up is flawed, I mean we knew that anyway but when you see what succesful clubs with high standards are doing you realise how bad it is.

Through my boss, who knows him, I've been told a lot about Rangnick. His time at United was not a success and he was wanting out as early as January because the board were not listening to him.
But the work he does behind the scenes is stellar and his identification of talent is the best.

If we could somehow get Levy shifted to the side, I'd love to see the club appoint someone like him to operate all football matters because he fits our philosophy much better than he did at United. He would probably be a better fit than FP too.

He identified Alvarez, Nkunku and Gvardiol as ideal United signings but was ignored.

He has a consultancy business with a partner and they have their own database that allows them to identify talent quicker. So rather than use contacts, we'd identify players quicker.

It's totally dream world but if Levy was step aside and hand the reigns to someone who is happy to work with Rangnick (but give him more control) and the ENTIRE football structure matched that, I could get behind it.

Essentially my final straw in regards to patience would be something like this. I could get behind it.

But if Levy stays in control and just appoints Poch, I'm done.

Thanks for sharing mate and good interesting insight.

I know a few people who work for and have worked for the club and they also commented that our scouting set-up is one of the worst in the league, FP has been trying to improve it but it’s not his forte.

As you say putting someone like Rangnick in FP’s role at Spurs would be a dream and a much better fit for our club, unfortunately it won’t ever happen, Levy is not only turning us into a club that can’t have the conditions to be successful but he’s also turning us into a club that plays boring defensive football by hiring pragmatic defensive managers and a blood Italian DofF from one of the most defensive teams in Europe historically, such a bad fit for us and sucking the life out of us enjoying our club.

 

[JamieSpursCommunityUser]

ENIC needs to step in and get rid of the manager who can’t get a tune out of a team with World Cup winners, captains of several top international sides, two of the best strikers in the world and a shedload of players who have played at the top level.
How does an employee get away with slagging off his employers, their top staff and make outrageous demands and get seen as someone hard done by. Let Conte survive on the income of a nurse and try to do a fraction of their work then he can winge all he likes

11 managers in 22 years. ENIC don't need to sack the manager, they need to pull their finger out.

Conte said we need to buy players if we are to challenge for our first league title in 61 years.

Was this wrong? Do you believe they are actually good enough? Or was it wrong to aim for the top?

Conte putting pressure on the board is a gift to the fans.

He could have kept his head down, signed a long contract, and set himself up for a huge pay off.

He didn't. He's tested Levy to show his hand, because he wants to WIN.

Levy, and his benevolent sons, want to win the net spend league and nothing else.

 

[Wick3d]

 

[Stoof]

11 managers in 22 years. ENIC don't need to sack the manager, they need to pull their finger out.

Conte said we need to buy players if we are to challenge for our first league title in 61 years.

Was this wrong? Do you believe they are actually good enough? Or was it wrong to aim for the top?

Conte putting pressure on the board is a gift to the fans.

He could have kept his head down, signed a long contract, and set himself up or a huge pay off.

He didn't. He's tested Levy to show his hand, because he wants to WIN.

Levy, and his benevolent sons, want to win the net spend league and nothing else.

Conte is not blameless in our current plight. Nor certainly is our chairman.

 

[rossdapep]

I suppose Arnesen and Mitchell both fit the type but I'm surprised Levy never bought out Brighton's whole recruitment team, for example.

Plenty of clubs have had good recruitment set ups in England and Europe over the last 10 years. Recruitment set ups that would have suited his MO of young potential.

Yet we've only really kinda brought in one guy or a DOF that didn't suit us.

We brought in Mitchell but not the structure, so obviously that failed.

 

[Johnny J]

I suppose Arnesen and Mitchell both fit the type but I'm surprised Levy never bought out Brighton's whole recruitment team, for example.

Plenty of clubs have had good recruitment set ups in England and Europe over the last 10 years. Recruitment set ups that would have suited his MO of young potential.

Yet we've only really kinda brought in one guy or a DOF that didn't suit us.

We brought in Mitchell but not the structure, so obviously that failed.

Your insight on our recruitment setup and what competitors are doing is both enlightening and terrifying.

 

[JamieSpursCommunityUser]

Conte is not blameless in our current plight. Nor certainly is our chairman.

Conte isn't blameless, but it's quite clear the club isn't setting him up to succeed.

We have a squad of misfit toys from 4 managers in 5 years (good grief).

Our XI is completely unbalanced and in this terrible middle ground; suited neither to a back 4, nor a back 3.

It's so blindingly obvious that we need to sign key players. Yet the club are hesitating why? Because the next coach may not play wing backs?

LEVY, WHY GET HALF WAY THROUGH A REBUILD TO PLAY WING BACKS, THEN EVEN CONSIDER CHANGING TO A COACH WHO DOESN'T PLAY WING BACKS!?

JUST INVEST IN GOOD PLAYERS THAT WILL BE GOOD FOR ANY MANAGER PLAYING OUT FROM THE BACK WITH WING BACKS!?!?! AND STOP CHANGING THE BLUE PRINT EVERY 12 FRICKING MONTHS!

It's like we've all caught Stockholm syndrome and fallen in love with our kidnapper.

Honestly if we part with Conte at this point right now, 5 managers in 5 years, we'll be a joke. A complete joke.

The only club both Conte and Mourinho didn't win at, with a cast iron reputation for undermining and sacking managers consistently every 18 months for 20 years.

Why come to Spurs other than for a pay off?

Newcastle will permanently replace us in the Top 6, if they haven't already.

We'll look back at this time and kick ourselves for allowing ENIC to bottle it like this.

 

[chrisd2k]

I havent shared this in here yet but I started working as a scout for a European club to find talent in Brazil.

This has helped me to understand how things work a lot closely and Tottenhams set up is flawed, I mean we knew that anyway but when you see what succesful clubs with high standards are doing you realise how bad it is.

Through my boss, who knows him, I've been told a lot about Rangnick. His time at United was not a success and he was wanting out as early as January because the board were not listening to him.
But the work he does behind the scenes is stellar and his identification of talent is the best.

If we could somehow get Levy shifted to the side, I'd love to see the club appoint someone like him to operate all football matters because he fits our philosophy much better than he did at United. He would probably be a better fit than FP too.

He identified Alvarez, Nkunku and Gvardiol as ideal United signings but was ignored.

He has a consultancy business with a partner and they have their own database that allows them to identify talent quicker. So rather than use contacts, we'd identify players quicker.

It's totally dream world but if Levy was step aside and hand the reigns to someone who is happy to work with Rangnick (but give him more control) and the ENTIRE football structure matched that, I could get behind it.

Essentially my final straw in regards to patience would be something like this. I could get behind it.

But if Levy stays in control and just appoints Poch, I'm done.

I don't understand. What did we hire Paratici for then?

 

[SirNiNyHotspur]

I suppose Arnesen and Mitchell both fit the type but I'm surprised Levy never bought out Brighton's whole recruitment team, for example.

Plenty of clubs have had good recruitment set ups in England and Europe over the last 10 years. Recruitment set ups that would have suited his MO of young potential.

Yet we've only really kinda brought in one guy or a DOF that didn't suit us.

We brought in Mitchell but not the structure, so obviously that failed.

I don't understand. What did we hire Paratici for then?

Not intentional but rather fitting how it ends don't you think?

 

[rossdapep]

I don't understand. What did we hire Paratici for then?

Well, I guess the intention is certainly correct.

I'm just not sure he fits our MO.

He's done ok so far. Gil and Sarr seem to be a even far or a little distance of making an impact in the PL.

Romero, Kulu and Bentancur are solid.

But the key aspect will be the structure which he appears to be working on.

I just worry that it's not done in line with the club's MO.

But my bigger point was why it wasn't done much much sooner.

 

[JUSTINSIGNAL]

Well, I guess the intention is certainly correct.

I'm just not sure he fits our MO.

He's done ok so far. Gil and Sarr seem to be a even far or a little distance of making an impact in the PL.

Romero, Kulu and Bentancur are solid.

But the key aspect will be the structure which he appears to be working on.

I just worry that it's not done in line with the club's MO.

But my bigger point was why it wasn't done much much sooner.

Paratici has spent the last year revamping are whole player identification and recruitment set up. Let's give it more than 1-2 transfer windows before trashing him.

 

[Trix]

ENIC needs to step in and get rid of the manager who can’t get a tune out of a team with World Cup winners, captains of several top international sides, two of the best strikers in the world and a shedload of players who have played at the top level.
How does an employee get away with slagging off his employers, their top staff and make outrageous demands and get seen as someone hard done by. Let Conte survive on the income of a nurse and try to do a fraction of their work then he can winge all he likes

Because deep down they know he's right?

 

[ExpediteTHFC]

Personally, I am just at the end of my patience with ENIC and Levy. Backed them fully up until now, but would just like to see them fuck off and have someone coe in and do something different. At least a change from the same old buy low, sell high shit might be nice.

 

[Stuart Leathercock]

Arsenal are the team we’re on a par with financially and we pay a higher overall salary than them.

I suspect their salary number is probably actually still higher than ours, time (and the accounts) will tell I guess.

 

[IfiHadTheWings]

Change please.

The most polite of requests that, proper tickled me.

 

[yellowbean]

I watched Moneyball last night. Usually a film i enjoy but with the noises around Spurs' disjointed theories on recruitment behind the scenes it was pretty chilling.
I don't understand the point in hiring Paratici to handle football decisions and a coach like Conte if ENIC/Levy are going to disrupt the process.
No doubt ENIC have us run well with great infrastructure but everytime we are in a position to push on they get cold feet.

 

[Stuart Leathercock]

I don't understand. What did we hire Paratici for then?

To attempt to put together a structure befitting of a top 20 European club after about 10 years of complete neglect in our footballing setup.

 

[Capocrimini]

Personally, I am just at the end of my patience with ENIC and Levy. Backed them fully up until now, but would just like to see them fuck off and have someone coe in and do something different. At least a change from the same old buy low, sell high shit might be nice.

Do we even buy low and sell high anymore? Feels like we overpay and then get stuck with signings that aren't right for the club. When did we last make profit on a player?

I don't understand what the approach with the transfers are anymore, on the one hand we appoint Conte / Jose who need ready made players. But then we continue to blow chunks of the budget on prospects who don't look good.

They've self destructed and it goes back to the penny pinching windows under Poch. The neglect of our squad then is still hurting us now. The last season at Wembley you could tell Dembele, Vertonghen, Alderweireld, Eriksen, Hugo, Rose, Tripper plus the squad players needed replacing. Fast forward 3/4 years they still need replacing. We are playing their back ups in 2023 with Conte and being sold we are a top 4 club!

It's actually miserable supporting this club at the moment. I feel sorry for our good players, Kane and Son have wasted their peak years being part of this scam.

 

[dontcallme]

I suspect their salary number is probably actually still higher than ours, time (and the accounts) will tell I guess.

For all the valid criticisms of ENIC right now, this is still excessively weak.

 

[Stuart Leathercock]

For all the valid criticisms of ENIC right now, this is still excessively weak.

Sorry, I don't get you?