Class of 2010-12

[jezz]

We dont have any guts in the transfer market Our deals are low risk and even lower price thats what we go for which is why we end up falling short.
The situation wont change anytime soon so its a case of sucking it up and suffering with whats at hand and see what or if poch can do anything of note.

BS Hazard would have signed if we qualified for CL.
Instead he went to Chelsea.
The best player's want CL football or 200,00 a week.

 

[Sevens]

We dont have any guts in the transfer market Our deals are low risk and even lower price thats what we go for which is why we end up falling short.
The situation wont change anytime soon so its a case of sucking it up and suffering with whats at hand and see what or if poch can do anything of note.

I don't disagree with you to be honest. I think there are three problems we seem to repeat in our transfer dealings. I've listed them below. I do understand the mentality of not wanting to do a Leeds but taking the occasional chance before the event doesn't mean we'll go the same way.

1) We don't speculate to accumulate. What I mean by this is that when we are on the verge of something potentially special, we don't buy the right player in anticipation of future rewards. We are very reactive in the sense we wait until something has happened before we make our move (with the possible exception of spending Bale's money before we finally let him go to Real Madrid). The transfer window everyone laments now is January 2012. We had a very outside shot at a title challenge and a very real shot of finishing top three. And we signed Saha and Nelsen. But if you cast your minds back to almost 10 years before, to January 2003. Exactly the same thing happened. We were in a very strong position and we failed to strengthen and our season collapsed.

2) Levy isn't tight, he just won't speculate and we do leave it too late. When we sell a player we do spend the money. Levy backs his Managers like that. But we all know that quite often our deals are simply done too late. We aren't the only club that does this, but we are possibly the worst offender.

3) Our transfer strategy lacks cohesion and is scattergun. This has been the case for a long time and was highlighted again by the spending of the Bale money. It's damning that we sign so many central midfielders and yet end up playing Bentaleb or Mason. Do often we seem to buy players for the sake of it. We need a distinctive transfer strategy. The manager wants a fast inside forward that run at players with the ball? Then we need to buy him one and not get a wide man who likes to ping one two's etc. Whose bright spark idea was it to sign Soldado and Adebayor and then play one up top, when neither of them are strong enough to play that role in the Premiership?

Managers come and go. Players come and go. Director of Football come and go. And yet our consistent problems remain.

 

[SpursDave88]

We did often play Bale right and Redknapp got slaughtered for it. Pienaar was injured.

No he wasn't

 

[shelfboy68]

BS Hazard would have signed if we qualified for CL.
Instead he went to Chelsea.
The best player's want CL football or 200,00 a week.

I disagree mate he played us champions League or not he was never coming to us once they got involved as you correctly said we dont pay that sort of wages do we.

 

[Sevens]

No he wasn't

Yes he was. Then we sold him back to Everton in the January transfer window.

Pienaar was a strange signing in my opinion. We played two banks of four under Redknapp and left or right midfield Pienaar is a poor player in a bank of four. Ironically Pienaar would have been a perfect player for AVB's formation because the only time he has looked decent is on the left hand side of a 4-5-1.

 

[Spurs_Bear]

Champions League wasn't the thing stopping us from signing Hazard. That would be the £32m...

 

[jezz]

I disagree mate he played us champions League or not he was never coming to us once they got involved as you correctly said we dont pay that sort of wages do we.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/eden-hazard-reveals-he-nearly-signed-1342680
We can't afford 200,000.

 

[Shadydan]

Right first lets dispense with this shit about People being deluded and or name calling as this is the problem with the likes of your kind on here who when posting their opinion dont like it challenged or someone else offering a different one.
I didnt call you deluded did i nor did i say We were on a par with the likes of Madrid/Utd financially or otherwise what i was alluding to was teams dont stand still but build on a position of strength which makes sense.
You felt that we didnt need to but we clearly did as the goals dried up and we started conceding a fair few as well,if we had brought one or two decent arrivals in then i reckon we would have made top four again.
And yes i do know how much a top class striker costs you and me both saw it saturday but i really dont understand how we couldnt be in the market for one around the 30 million Mark with all what we make from third highest ticket prices and tv money we could afford to go that far and get someone in who is decent.
Instead we are just lidl shopping hopping to strike in rich on a 8-10 million striker it aint gonna happen lets be honest money buys quality and We dont have a decent striker in Our ranks which is down to poor recruitment again.

We did make the top four...

To be fair you did call my argument a load of rubbish, your arguments are coming across as a little naive...

You mentioned Real and Utd, they strengthen regularly because they have the resources to and can obtain players through prestige, CL football and by paying a high wage and i don't disagree with this method but we don't have what they have which makes it even harder for us. The time that season to strengthen was Jan 2012 in the TW but you do realise that we did try to strengthen but we had a £20m bid turned down for Remy.

If you know how much a top class striker costs then you'd realise that we'd get nowhere near the wage that they command...We haven't spent money since 2008, what do you think it's going towards?

As I mentioned before we had the squad perfectly capable of finishing in the CL places that season and they did, the problem was that it was poorly managed and we had no plan B, players were tired physically and mentally which cost us in the latter part of that season. Also we should never have had to rely on other factors but Chelsea winning the CL was a freak occurance which went against us to.

 

[PT]

There is a mathematical calculation to every piece of business we do and the ingredients behold to FFP and our intent on acquiring a new stadium, in my opinion.
We just cannot compete on the same level at Man City, Liverpool, Manchester United, Chelsea or Arsenal while we have a 36000 capacity stadium and no Champions League pedigree.
When we enter the market for a player we know we can aspire to his valuation, but we cannot aspire to his salary too, or his aspirations for immediate opportunity for realistic competition at the top table.
Until Spurs get the stadium built and our cap is lifted insofar as FFP is concerned, we are mid table with top four aspirations if the wind blows in our favour.

 

[ginola99]

Underachievers is the right word for that class, by far the best team we'd had in over two decades and half of them left without a medal to their name. Shame, on their day they could literally match anyone and by far the most thrilling team to watch.

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[sunnydelight786]

Underachievers is the right word for that class, by far the best team we'd had in over two decades and half of them left without a medal to their name. Shame, on their day they could literally match anyone and by far the most thrilling team to watch.

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You could add to that. Our best team since 87 and Arsenal's worst since Wenger took over, yet we still finished behind them with a 10 point head start and 10 games to go

 

[lukespurs7]

In recent weeks/months I have seen a growing number of people going on about our team from 2010-12. I'm sure we have all seen that screen shot pic of our midfield from then via twitter or on here., then go and hear fellow fans reminisce about the good old days. I'm sorry but I just don't buy it.

Our team of 2010-12 did indeed at times play some very easy on the eye football and pull off a few big wins, but for me I see that team/era as one of massive underachievement. That team should have secured CL football in each of the 2 seasons they were together, yet on both occasions a spectacular end of season collapse saw us miss out both times.

A weeks after beating Milan away we faced a Blackpool side who were in a shocking run of form in late Feb, yet we somehow managed to lose that game. I can remember being at that game and fuming at our failure to win it on my long journey home. Because of our euphoria of the away win against Milan the result was excused by most and with that we went on to win only 1 of our next 10 PL games. In other words we threw away a CL spot when it was there for the taking.

The following season after beating Newcastle 4-0 at home we faced Arsenal next in late Feb, we took a early 2-0 lead yet managed to get hammered 5-2. We were 10 points clear of AFC going into that game. we went on to win only 1 of our next 9 PL games after Newcastle, yet again throwing away a CL spot. It wasn't because Fulop threw 3 into his net or our failure to beat Villa when we was given a unexpected second bite of the cherry, but because of our collapse preceding that.

Back then a few of us, BC/Sloth/Arnoldlayne/etc, could clearly see the team we had should be doing so much better but our arguments were falling on deaf ears. Make no mistake about it that team underachieved in both League and domestic cups, it could/should have done so much better. Unlike others I look back at that period with regret knowing we really should have cemented our CL status and maybe reached a cup final between 2010-12....

Slightly agree the team could/should've achieved more. BUT you mention the football we played was 'easy on the eye' that is a massive understatement mate!!!

Yes there were games we couldn't break teams down etc but there were also countless games where the football was just breathtaking I think at one point 75% of fans and managers voted that we played the best stuff I loved it then and knew we'd not have it as good again for a long time and I was right.

We broke up weather by choice or not a team which was well balanced,talented and had some real characters we now have a mish mash of players who play no-where near to the standard of 2010-12.

I miss those days and think you should look back and bloody enjoy quite how fucking good we were and that we actually finally made it into the CL and not only that but have a real account of ourselves,rather than look back on that era as underachieving that is just madness.

Enjoy what it was you won't see that football and those level of players at the lane again for a long time.