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TorontoYid

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Some people are never satisfied and personally I would rather be where we are at the present time building gradually rather than having signed players for unrealised extortionate transfer fees and wages to match and end up in a "Leeds" type position with dept up to the eyeballs and in a ever increasing downward spiral to oblivion.


Simple math.
No decent striker signed = No Champions League football
No Champions League football = No Bale after next season

Spurs - Bale - CL football = No chance of getting top players and a return to mid table obscurity when all the rest strengthen where we don't.

You have to spend to get the returns. Going a few £m over budget to get a CL place is needed as you make it back from that.
 

ealingspur

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Indecisiveness then

Not indecisiveness then either. He didnt want to come. He didnt want to uproot his family. He didnt want to change the type of football he plays in what is going to be his last world cup year. He didnt want to risk the lack of exposure. Lots of reasons. The blame isnt always just on us. It's takes two to tango, and in this case, Villa wanted to dance the Flamenco, not the Horah.
 

fortworthspur

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not sure why people are upset about this - 20 million plus was too much for Benteke. These guys that have a break-out season at a crap club are always a bit of a gamble.
 

TottenhamMattSpur

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not sure why people are upset about this - 20 million plus was too much for Benteke. These guys that have a break-out season at a crap club are always a bit of a gamble.

That's a bit like saying you didn't spend £1.50 because it's a bit too much for a packet of pickled onion monster munch when you have nothing else in the world to eat.
 

Yid

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We really should have bitten the bullet and went for Benteke, even if we had to have the 25% sell on and £20m plus adds ons. Yes it is overpriced and a risk but look at the other options:-

Negredo - just as expensive, much older, and now getting paid top wedge at City. More expensive than CB and overpriced

Soldado - definitely a better player but probably more expensive, £100k+ wages and probably won't be gagging to come here.

Jackson Martinez - Also overvalued for me and he plays for Porto, we know how spurs-Porto transfers play out...

Whereas Benteke was willing to come to us, on relatively low wages, was younger, PL proven and had all the attributes and potential to be a huge player for us. Even if he flopped we would probably get a decent bit back on the next sale like Darren Bent.

I genuinely thought we would get him in as he seemed the only logical option of our targets. Seriously concerned now...


With all due respect, are these the product of your opinion, or facts?
If you're going to list Negredo's older age amongst the measuring factors of his quality (or lack thereof) as a footballer, you should probably indicate Soldado's age (who's actually several months older than Negredo) as well, tbf.

It's also arguable whether or not Soldado is better than any of the other players on your list.

Lastly, how you do know it was Benteke's will to come to us (especially on relatively low wages), as opposed to a simple ploy to procure a contract beneficial to him?
 

SpartanSpur

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I'm not trying to show anyone the light. It is simply my opinion and me highlighting my reasons why I am concerned. I would say for the most part they were generally accepted thoughts though. I admit I missed the age on Soldado but I was aware. However history tells me the age is a moot point on a potential £20m player on £100k a week, that is not a Spurs deal...

You don't agree with some of my points, fair enough, that's your purogative, this is a forum after all.

Finally about Benteke, I believe what the Belgian journalist came out with this morning. He wanted the transfer, was told not to expect spurs to agree a fee, offered a shiny contract and decided that'll do for him. After all I'd love a Ferrari but I'd settle for a BMW M3.
 

SpartanSpur

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And the remark about the Negredo age was to do with Mr Levy seeing more value in the player and actually thinking a deal would be worthwhile for him.

No measure of ability, I agree.
 

tom4s

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A part of me is still hoping on yidios info that we might come back for benteke later this window. maybe his new contract even has a release clause...
 

Shea

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A part of me is still hoping on yidios info that we might come back for benteke later this window. maybe his new contract even has a release clause...
there's no way his new contract will have a release claus for anything less than Villa already wanted for him (i.e. £25m) why would villa pay him more money to lose bartering power?
 

KaNoUtE9

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I think we need to let this one go. On Friday he signed the only contract he will sign this summer. If we were unwilling to pay what they wanted for him, then I highly doubt we'll pay it later in the window. Move on.
 

Dembele'Disciple

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Levy bottled this one didn't he. We squabled so much that the player decided to stay where he was. The deadline was thursday and we thought we could drag this all the way to the last day. Really dissapointing stuff.
 

allatsea

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Levy bottled this one didn't he. We squabled so much that the player decided to stay where he was. The deadline was thursday and we thought we could drag this all the way to the last day. Really dissapointing stuff.

Sorry but I think that is rubbish. Young player with one decent or good season in the PL doesn't make him suddenly a 25 million or 30 million pound player. Too much risk of things going wrong to justify paying so much.
 

TottenhamMattSpur

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Sorry but I think that is rubbish. Young player with one decent or good season in the PL doesn't make him suddenly a 25 million or 30 million pound player. Too much risk of things going wrong to justify paying so much.

What actually happened was Levy got his cock out, swung it around a bit and said to the board "they say £25m but look at the size of my cock, I'll beat them do to what I want to pay, when I want to pay and how I want to pay"

At which point Randy Lerner (the clues in the name here) flopped out his vastly larger 4" cock and let it hang there in front of Levy in all it's awe and glory.
Levy, having being entranced at the sheer magnitude of this mans meat just said "I can't argue with that shit can I?"

And quickly left, with his tail between his legs (sort of, it was too short)
 

Dembele'Disciple

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Sorry but I think that is rubbish. Young player with one decent or good season in the PL doesn't make him suddenly a 25 million or 30 million pound player. Too much risk of things going wrong to justify paying so much.
I guess you'll just have to see for yourself just how poor the decision not to pay up is. He'll have another great season and by the next transfer window he'll have better teams looking to sign him. What could have possibly gone wrong? We sign a striker that's going to be a dominant force for the next decade for 25million pounds. Sounds like a great deal to me.
 

allatsea

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I guess you'll just have to see for yourself just how poor the decision not to pay up is. He'll have another great season and by the next transfer window he'll have better teams looking to sign him. What could have possibly gone wrong? We sign a striker that's going to be a dominant force for the next decade for 25million pounds. Sounds like a great deal to me.

That's your opinion which is not supported by any facts other than he has had one good season in the PL. Yes if he has another good season and scores plenty of goals he will be probably be worth the current asking price. Our management and coaching team will have done some serious thinking before deciding what his maximum worth to us was and that obviously wasn't 25 million pounds.

To me he looks too much like a version of Heskey and hasn't yet justified the hype which now surrounds him.
 

Ossie85

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That's your opinion which is not supported by any facts other than he has had one good season in the PL. Yes if he has another good season and scores plenty of goals he will be probably be worth the current asking price. Our management and coaching team will have done some serious thinking before deciding what his maximum worth to us was and that obviously wasn't 25 million pounds.

To me he looks too much like a version of Heskey and hasn't yet justified the hype which now surrounds him.

Even if he were to score a similar amount of goals next season, it doesn't mean he would've done it with us. We play very different to AV
 

Dembele'Disciple

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That's your opinion which is not supported by any facts other than he has had one good season in the PL. Yes if he has another good season and scores plenty of goals he will be probably be worth the current asking price. Our management and coaching team will have done some serious thinking before deciding what his maximum worth to us was and that obviously wasn't 25 million pounds.

To me he looks too much like a version of Heskey and hasn't yet justified the hype which now surrounds him.
I say its what's going to happen, ofcourse its my opinion because it hasn't happened yet. You either haven't seen much of him or your judgement of players is pathetic. He has more talent in his pinky toe than emile had in his whole body. After next season he'll be worth the sort of prices that we can't afford, and will attract the sort of suitors that we can't compete against. That is why this was so dissapointing.
 
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