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Attracting players: Success, Wages, Manager, Stadium, Location, History, Potential

LondonOllie

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I was reading the other post discussing what players we would ideally add to the squad. Everyone wants that world class player (mostly one of our old boys) like a Bale or a Modric in midfield or attacking positions.

That got me thinking about how much of the attraction to most players, is what they can earn.
And then, what other factors are involved and generally how that might be weighted in most of their decision making processes when deciding which club to join.

We've seen that there are some players who have ended up in China earning a fortune, which is I suspect far more than they could earn elsewhere. But...they have to play away from the world stage and are not playing with overall high quality players around them. However, for some the salary seems to be everything. I can't blame them, especially if they are getting up their in years and want one last big pay day before they retire.

The truly world class players I suspect would all join Real Madrid or Barcelona if all things were equal over: Manchester United (currently), Man City, Bayern, Arsenal, and maybe one or two other second tier clubs.
We saw that Chelsea had a little success and then were taken over by the (alleged) corrupt Russian. They then started to spend huge amounts on transfers and wages to attract players. That in turn lead to greater success with the right management in place. We saw the same thing happen at City. They now have a world class manager, and some great facilities i understand. How much of a turn off is it to be based away from the capital city or another city in Europe that might be a better place to live? Suppose Stoke were bought out by a billionaire, built a great new stadium etc and could pay the going rate for the best players. How many would be prepared to live in Stoke (and how much more would they need to be paid to live there vs say, an offer from Barcelona)?

So lets take Spurs. Say once we build our shiny new stadium and we manage to remain in the top four and are able to get into the latter stages of the Champions League a few years in a row. The manager stays with us, our best players don't jump ship. How much do all the other factors aside from wages and transfer fees, matter? How much more attractive would we be to a player?

I suspect that being based in London is a big one.
The stadium and training facilities must have some draw to it.
Playing for Poch, as an up and coming manager?
Other players on the squad?
And I guess, success. If you're successful and can win things, that's got to be one of the biggest things aside from wages?

I don't believe we're suddenly going to break the bank and our wage structure for a number of years, so will all the other factors help us attract a higher caliber of player than we currently can, or will it still come down to what we will spend on wages and the rest of the things I've listed not really make too much difference?

Apologies for rambling on in advance!
 

Abdoujaparov

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And we won't be big payers while having to pay for the new stadium and while Lewis looks to keep other costs down ahead of a sale.

But, we can continue to buy younger, promising but unproven players with someone as good as poch managing the team.
 

Adam456

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Jul 1, 2005
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Appeal rating = 0.7 wages + 0.1 Tournaments/level + 0.1 location + 0.05 stadium + 0.05 manager/players

There you go. No problem. No need to thank me :)
 

Shadydan

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Jul 7, 2012
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I was reading the other post discussing what players we would ideally add to the squad. Everyone wants that world class player (mostly one of our old boys) like a Bale or a Modric in midfield or attacking positions.

That got me thinking about how much of the attraction to most players, is what they can earn.
And then, what other factors are involved and generally how that might be weighted in most of their decision making processes when deciding which club to join.

We've seen that there are some players who have ended up in China earning a fortune, which is I suspect far more than they could earn elsewhere. But...they have to play away from the world stage and are not playing with overall high quality players around them. However, for some the salary seems to be everything. I can't blame them, especially if they are getting up their in years and want one last big pay day before they retire.

The truly world class players I suspect would all join Real Madrid or Barcelona if all things were equal over: Manchester United (currently), Man City, Bayern, Arsenal, and maybe one or two other second tier clubs.
We saw that Chelsea had a little success and then were taken over by the (alleged) corrupt Russian. They then started to spend huge amounts on transfers and wages to attract players. That in turn lead to greater success with the right management in place. We saw the same thing happen at City. They now have a world class manager, and some great facilities i understand. How much of a turn off is it to be based away from the capital city or another city in Europe that might be a better place to live? Suppose Stoke were bought out by a billionaire, built a great new stadium etc and could pay the going rate for the best players. How many would be prepared to live in Stoke (and how much more would they need to be paid to live there vs say, an offer from Barcelona)?

So lets take Spurs. Say once we build our shiny new stadium and we manage to remain in the top four and are able to get into the latter stages of the Champions League a few years in a row. The manager stays with us, our best players don't jump ship. How much do all the other factors aside from wages and transfer fees, matter? How much more attractive would we be to a player?

I suspect that being based in London is a big one.
The stadium and training facilities must have some draw to it.
Playing for Poch, as an up and coming manager?
Other players on the squad?
And I guess, success. If you're successful and can win things, that's got to be one of the biggest things aside from wages?

I don't believe we're suddenly going to break the bank and our wage structure for a number of years, so will all the other factors help us attract a higher caliber of player than we currently can, or will it still come down to what we will spend on wages and the rest of the things I've listed not really make too much difference?

Apologies for rambling on in advance!

Once we build that stadiums and when we get anywhere near to competing with the big boys in terms of wages (although personally I think under ENIC our wage structure will always remain relatively sensible) that's when we will be able to attract some worldies. It will take some time though and there's no guarantees that we will automatically start to turn the heads of some of the bigger players but having a bigger stadium means that we can put another £30k on Harry Kane's wage if his head was being turned as opposed to out and out offering a player £120k a week to join us. Everything else we have in place, location, facilities and in your hypothetical scenario continuous CL football, being successful and finishing in the top four.
 

Mattspur

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Jan 7, 2004
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The most important things to a player are 1 = Wages. 2 = How much they get paid. 3 = What they can earn. 4 = The amount of money they get. 5 = Their salary. etc...

Everything else is just a bonus.
 

Everlasting Seconds

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Jan 9, 2014
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I think with the recent contract extension, about a hundred in total, there is no doubt that with CL as the icing on the cake for this Pochettino project, Spurs is a highly attractive club for the right kind of players. It just goes to show that for many footballers of a certain type, there are more factors than simply wages. Some guys are in the sport for athletic, not only financial ambitions. And they have a home within Spurs these days.
 

danielneeds

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May 5, 2004
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We've seen with Borussia Dortmund this summer, hoovering up some of the game's most promising talents, wages aren't everything, the likes of Ousmane Dembele and Emre Mor would get paid more in the PL.

Alot of it is building a culture around your club, one of stability, chances given to young talent, and yes, some success, and you will become a very attractive proposition.

We're possibly on the same track Dortmund were on in the early Klopp years, so it's something we've got to keep building.
 
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DogsOfWar

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Jan 12, 2005
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The first stage is regular CL football, top players will only come to a team competing at the top of their domestic league and in the premier cup competition. It also sees £30 million+ in prize money and will see an increase in commercial revenue.
Secondly, the stadium. Iconic stadiums are synonymous with big clubs and will provide another £50 million a season.

Add these together and we will be a £350 million revenue club which means we can spend £175 million comfortably on wages or almost twice as much as we currently do.

That will only leave us behind Barca, Real, United, and Bayern in terms of attractiveness to players. Although I suspect City may also be at that level by the time we arrive.
 

Hoops

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Its a mixture of everything.

Chance to win league
Compete in CL
Good wages
Good manager
Nice stadium
Club history
City and lifestyle
 
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