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If they were going for a young manager, surely EH would be a safer shout than Arteta?
My thoughts exactly but could they get him? or would he want to go there?
They're still one of the biggest clubs in the country. He'd definitely go there.
It’s ok, Stoke have been relegated. Nobody has to worry about the weather in England now. Especially on a Tuesday evening.
My thoughts exactly but could they get him? or would he want to go there?
They're still one of the biggest clubs in the country. He'd definitely go there.
Yeah I don’t buy this Arteta would get leeway thinking. Arsenal fans expect to be challenging for the title let alone top 4. Otherwise what was the point of the emirates. 10 years from now with the NWHL if we were languishing in 6th I’d be furious and expecting better than a1st time manager with no experience no matter who he’d been studying under.This could a crucial period in their history. Honestly think Everton will get it right eventually. Leicester are rumoured to be spending big this summer. I think wolves will have a go. People think 6th is as low as they can go but if couple of those clubs get it right then they could easily be 8th before they know it.
My geography isn’t great but that’s still not in England.What about the Europa league games in Kfqjfhqfistan?
My geography isn’t great but that’s still not in England.
They're still one of the biggest clubs in the country. He'd definitely go there.
So many factors to consider, but for me the most crucial is how much money are the board willing to spend to rebuild the team?
It seems a bit crass to speak of success and rebuilding mainly in terms of spending power, but that's the reality of the situation...
...unless...
...you do what we did, which was steadily improve by buying and selling a stack of players over 13 years until we finally bought enough 'prospects', who turned into league-challenging players (Jan, Toby, Lloris, Alli, Eriksen, Kane, Dier, etc, etc).
We also had a HUGE!!! slice of luck with the way Kane turned out.
I can't remember the last time a PL team aquired a player with league goal stats of 21, 25, 29, 30 in consecutive seasons, FOR FREE!!!
Anyway, if Arsenal and their fans don't patiently embrace the ups-and-downs of a medium to long-term rebuilding project, they could be miserable for a while.
Well both Poch and Pep wanted him in their backroom teams, so he's obviously got something about him. Big difference being a coach and a manager though. I know he'll only be head coach at the Scum, but he'll have a lot on his shoulders.Arteta seems a long shot. I liked him a lot as a player but who knows what sort of manager he'll be.
These days £50 mill buys 70% of VVD aka The Dutch Wall.
That's not luck, that's down to the foundations we put in with our coaching academy, training centre and hiring one of the best coaches for young players, we just got it right.
I thought someone might say this
You're right, you have to put all the above in place, that's for sure. You have to be 'in it, to win it', so to speak.
But you also need a huge slice of luck to produce the very best in the world; the player in question has to have the right genetics to begin with, he has to have the right attitude, he has to be lucky with injuries, he has to have no truly unpleasant experiences in his life that will completely de-rail his progress, he has to be mentally strong enough to handle the ups and downs of elite-level sport.
If it were simply a case of the club set-up, then the likes of Madrid, Barcelona and Man Utd would be producing world-class talent from their academies 100% of the time and they would never need to dip into the transfer market at all.
In my mind, Harry Kane is the best number 9 in the world right now; there's a bit of good fortune in that fact.
Agreed and it's a point that needs to be expanded upon
The Arsenal re-building process has come at probably the worst time for them, because in the last 2 seasons transfer fees have become incredibly inflated. You've got mid-table PL teams spending £20m to £30m on average players, with 'hot-prospects' costing £40m to £50m+ and established stars fetching £75m+
They're going to need to bring in 5 or 6 really good players at least, to challenge for the Top 4. You're talking £300m at a minimum, unless you can get some rough diamonds, but that's becoming more and more unlikely in the world of modern communications
I think the days of picking up a Vertonghen, Lloris or Alderweireld for under £20m a pop are nearly (or actually) gone
I will be fascinated to see what squad they start the season with and the fans reaction to it
Then you might as well say Barca got lucky that Messi turned out the player that he is in that case you could probably say that Barca were lucky to have Busquets, Iniesta, Messi, Pique, Fabregas all come out of La Masia with the same reasons as to why Kane made it - you can make the case for any player who made it through youth academies playing at a high level and use your same logic you're using for Kane, that's not to do with luck. It's the whole point of creating these academies in the first place so that it gives players the best chance and places them in an environment to succeed.
I didn't say it's a simple case of setting up an academy, the training centre and the coaches have had a massive part to play in his transformation as well hence my point about the environment. Arsenal letting him go and Spurs taking a chance on him isn't down to luck, him being nurtured through the academy and sending him out on those loans so he grows up and matures isn't down to luck, it's made him the player that he is today, not selling or releasing him when it looked like he may not make it isn't down to luck, they're judgement calls we got right and we are reaping the benefits of it.