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nailsy

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£200m spent by them this summer.
£50m or so spent by us.
Going to have to sell our best player for £100m and spend all that money to still be £50m behind them.

Ambition vs no ambition.

It's a lot more than £50m if you include the players who were on loan previously.

And to be fair you can't just judge a transfer window on just how much you spend. Maddison and Rice are both great signings, but there's over £50m difference in their price. I'm happy with the players we've bought so far, but we obviously need to sort out the defence. Losing Kane will be painful as well :(
 

Derryank

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I know the negs are coming...this lot is going to romp the league in my opinion.

Liverpool and City have lost several starters. United still finding their feet with squad revamp ..and the other lot have continued to strengthen their starting eleven.

Sad but true and only my opinion in July.

COYS
 

barry

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I know the negs are coming...this lot is going to romp the league in my opinion.

Liverpool and City have lost several starters. United still finding their feet with squad revamp ..and the other lot have continued to strengthen their starting eleven.

Sad but true and only my opinion in July.

COYS
I ain't gonna neg you but this opinion should be taken out back and killed. Why air it here of all places?
 

cjsimba

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It's a lot more than £50m if you include the players who were on loan previously.

And to be fair you can't just judge a transfer window on just how much you spend. Maddison and Rice are both great signings, but there's over £50m difference in their price. I'm happy with the players we've bought so far, but we obviously need to sort out the defence. Losing Kane will be painful as well :(

It’s been repeated many times now but one last time- if you count the loan players as part of this window then it means we spent nothing last Jan and only £15m on Bentancur the Jan before last.

Either way that’s massively unambitious.
 

mattspur1986

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£200m spent by them this summer.
£50m or so spent by us.
Going to have to sell our best player for £100m and spend all that money to still be £50m behind them.

Ambition vs no ambition.

if, and it’s a BIG if, we got £100m no way all
Of that gets invested.
 

mattspur1986

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It's a lot more than £50m if you include the players who were on loan previously.

And to be fair you can't just judge a transfer window on just how much you spend. Maddison and Rice are both great signings, but there's over £50m difference in their price. I'm happy with the players we've bought so far, but we obviously need to sort out the defence. Losing Kane will be painful as well :(

I don’t get this, surely the loan player fees you talk of will have come from last years & January budgets surely, we all get sucked into this and let it be okay for not having a decent amount invested in each window.

and this is going like every other window, starts positive and then main deals drag on and don’t get completed - it’s actually infuriating that people fall for it every year.
 

Frozen_Waffles

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I know the negs are coming...this lot is going to romp the league in my opinion.

Liverpool and City have lost several starters. United still finding their feet with squad revamp ..and the other lot have continued to strengthen their starting eleven.

Sad but true and only my opinion in July.

COYS
Just silly.

Arsenal did well last season with not playing much in Europe, no real sustained injuries of note and they still bottled the title.

Chelsea were all over shop, the Liverpool midfield and VVD decided to give up football last season. We had key injuries and Conte meltdown and CL. United had a terrible start to the season.

Even City had a relatively shit start to the season while they tried to incorporate Haaland.

They had a lot of things go their way, it won't be the same this season. Let's see how they do when the going gets tough.

I'd be absolutely flabbergasted if Arsenal 'romp the title' or are within 15 points of the winners (City) come the end of the season.
 

Derryank

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Just silly.

Arsenal did well last season with not playing much in Europe, no real sustained injuries of note and they still bottled the title.

Chelsea were all over shop, the Liverpool midfield and VVD decided to give up football last season. We had key injuries and Conte meltdown and CL. United had a terrible start to the season.

Even City had a relatively shit start to the season while they tried to incorporate Haaland.

They had a lot of things go their way, it won't be the same this season. Let's see how they do when the going gets tough.

I'd be absolutely flabbergasted if Arsenal 'romp the title' or are within 15 points of the winners (City) come the end of the season.
All good points. Totally agree, with 'had a lot go their way.' Just my onions is all.. they've recruited very well, whereas the others you've mentioned have all lost starters.... that'll take time to find the flow of Premiership football for acquiring results in a openly competitive league... think them lot are stronger than last season. HOPEFULLY IM VERY WRONG!!
 

cliff jones

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Just silly.

Arsenal did well last season with not playing much in Europe, no real sustained injuries of note and they still bottled the title.

Chelsea were all over shop, the Liverpool midfield and VVD decided to give up football last season. We had key injuries and Conte meltdown and CL. United had a terrible start to the season.

Even City had a relatively shit start to the season while they tried to incorporate Haaland.

They had a lot of things go their way, it won't be the same this season. Let's see how they do when the going gets tough.

I'd be absolutely flabbergasted if Arsenal 'romp the title' or are within 15 points of the winners (City) come the end of the season.
They will go close again imho. I’d fkin love it if they fell away, but I can’t see it.

I said to my City mate that without Gundo’s goals they will be weaker- he told me not to worry

No point mentioning ou own team in this conversation
 

barry

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May 22, 2005
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Lol...coz it's an Arsenal thread?

Apologies if I missed something
This is a still Tottenham forum buddy, Arsenal are going to "romp the league" is too much adoration for the scum before a ball has been kicked.

I come to this thread for memes and hate, not realism, but I get they're a good team, and some of you feel the need to Eulogies. I can ignore it for the most part, but yours seems way OTT before the season has even started.

That's why i feel your opinion should be shot.
 

nailsy

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Jul 24, 2005
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It’s been repeated many times now but one last time- if you count the loan players as part of this window then it means we spent nothing last Jan and only £15m on Bentancur the Jan before last.

Either way that’s massively unambitious.

I don’t get this, surely the loan player fees you talk of will have come from last years & January budgets surely, we all get sucked into this and let it be okay for not having a decent amount invested in each window.

and this is going like every other window, starts positive and then main deals drag on and don’t get completed - it’s actually infuriating that people fall for it every year.

What I was saying was that spending £200m doesn't mean that you've had a better transfer window than someone spending half that amount. There seems to be an obsession about how much you spend, rather than looking at the players that have been bought and how much they improve the squad. Look at Chelsea last year. They spent a record amount but didn't address key positions.

And the above doesn't mean that I'm happy with how much we spend compared to other teams. There's just more to it than the total amount spent.
 

cjsimba

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What I was saying was that spending £200m doesn't mean that you've had a better transfer window than someone spending half that amount. There seems to be an obsession about how much you spend, rather than looking at the players that have been bought and how much they improve the squad. Look at Chelsea last year. They spent a record amount but didn't address key positions.

And the above doesn't mean that I'm happy with how much we spend compared to other teams. There's just more to it than the total amount spent.

That’s cool and I agree. But I was replying to your first sentence below where I stand by the fact you can’t count these fees as counting in this window and in the previous January’s. If you include the Porro fee in this window then we went another window in Jan without spending any money at all which is unacceptable.

It's a lot more than £50m if you include the players who were on loan previously.
 

nailsy

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That’s cool and I agree. But I was replying to your first sentence below where I stand by the fact you can’t count these fees as counting in this window and in the previous January’s. If you include the Porro fee in this window then we went another window in Jan without spending any money at all which is unacceptable.

It's a lot more than £50m if you include the players who were on loan previously.

As I understand it there's an Initial loan fee which you pay when you first take the player and then there's a buyout fee when you actually purchase them so you might spend money on one player in two different windows.
 

Tonio

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I ain't gonna neg you but this opinion should be taken out back and killed. Why air it here of all places?
You would have thought people would have learned a lesson from last season. :rolleyes:
 
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