2012 - The Summer of Change

[mil1lion]

This will be the most important summer ever in the transfer window for us.

Personally I think we need 5/6 new signings.

1 goalkeeper in his prime to replace Gomes in the squad and ultimately when he settles replace Friedel.
1 quality centre back as first choice partner for Kaboul (we must have a constant first choice pairing and not rely on King/Gallas to be fit)
1 pacey winger to compete and rotate with Bale/Lennon
1 young playmaker to replace Modric in the long term
1 big number 9 striker be it Adebayor or an alternative
1 hard working striker who presses high up the pitch

I think that would give us all the options we need for the next season.

 

[e2nd]

Harry has to take the blame for this, not the players. Yes they were embarrassing to watch yesterday, BUT the general team spirit and mood within the camp is down to how the manager manages his players. Team spirit was great up until Redknapp got linked with the England job, since then it's been utter shite. Harry is clearly going to take the England position, so if the manager isn't fully committed to the Tottenham project then how are we supposed to expect the players to be.

Modric is as good as gone, yes, but we can hang on to the rest of the squad and with a few tweaks to the squad, be back to giving the Manchester clubs a good run (without actually winning the league).

 

[carpediem991]

A lot depends on our manager. Still Harry? (Don't hope so)

Would def. keep: Kaboul, Caulker, Dawson, Hudd, Lennon, Parker, Sandro, Livermore, Townsend, Walker, Assou and Rafa
Pre season see what Naughton, Smith, Rose and Pienaar can do in our squad. Definetly we need some cover/alternatives as RB/ LB
Unsure about Defoe and Bale. Depends on offers maybe.
Goalkeeper situation will be very interesting to see as well.

But most important thing is 1 or 2 strikers who are a goal threat in nearly all situations and fit to our system. A creative Modric replacement, one or two wingers (depends on Bale) , and one or two centre backs.

Can not see that coming in one window tbh, but we will see. Hope things get sorted early in the window...

 

[kdspur]

This will be the most important summer ever in the transfer window for us.

Personally I think we need 5/6 new signings.

1 goalkeeper in his prime to replace Gomes in the squad and ultimately when he settles replace Friedel.
1 quality centre back as first choice partner for Kaboul (we must have a constant first choice pairing and not rely on King/Gallas to be fit)
1 pacey winger to compete and rotate with Bale/Lennon
1 young playmaker to replace Modric in the long term
1 big number 9 striker be it Adebayor or an alternative
1 hard working striker who presses high up the pitch

I think that would give us all the options we need for the next season.

2 goalkeepers instead of one... cudicini is gone and has always been gone to me...but it wud be hard to get young keeper in when he knows for example spurs are signing a lloris and already have friedel so maybe a butland signing but staying with birmingham on loan might be worth chasing!

2 quality center backs... king is on way out big time i think... he looks like he is really struggling now but made some good last ditch again yesterday . gallas had a stinker and was bullied from start to finish, but i love his attitude, a winner and character just a shame he is not 5 years younger. kaboul is good and had great season but he i still prone to clangers. dawson is a tryer but again he is very naive at times and slow to react. nelson, gallas, king out of starting 11 but maybe still in squad and played sparingly = 2 new center halves.

playmake agreed to play in modric role. modric should have been dropped for few games recently but no one to replace him. what we need from midfield also is someone with the ability to commit players and literally beat them. we have the directness from bale and lennon but what we need is someone with craft and skill to unlock defences on top of that.

at least 3 new strikers. saha out defoe out adebayor out
with striker situation its obvious there is no real english or premiership playing center forward going to come in so you are taking more of a gamble than usual again with getting a player in who can play im premier league. i wud be looking to sign strikers with pace and work rate. all roads lead to leandro and a cavani who wud be perfect and although 2 expensive, i would love tevez. just the sort of players spurs need. i love his industry and work rate to unsettle defences. on top of that i wud be looking for someone with real eye for goal like a higuain type. just a pure goal getter who is big and strong also and can work a line.

winger to replace / challenge bale and lennon is another i agree on.. adam johnson will be available and withing budget i have no doubt so he wud be a good clever signing as would howlett. he is tidy and can offer something from bench anyway.

serious money needs spending and serious coaching needs to be done. if we dont get champions league you can def scrap all top players joining. and even if we do you can probably scratch all those players joining anyway as well haha

 

[sunnydelight786]

Our summer dealings are totally dependant on where we finish in the league. For me Modric is gone even if we get 4th so there will be a decent wedge of money to spend from that sale aswell as money we have to spend anyway.

If we manage to stumble over the line and get 4th then we can honestly go out and get the likes of Vertonghen, Eriksen, KJH, Damiao, Ganso, etc. I'm sure the new manager coming in will have his own ideas and would want to stamp his own authority on the team hence we may see the likes of BAE/Friedel/Lennon/Parker/Defoe/Kaboul/etc upgraded. Hopefully the new man coming in won't be afraid to take a chance on players playing outside of the PL. I feel there are exciting times ahead if we do get 4th and appoint a new manager asap.....

If our collapse continues and we end up with a EL spot then we will have a summer of transfer speculation regarding Bale like we had with Modric a year back. VDV is loyal so I don't see him leaving. If I'm honest I would make him captain next season and make him the fulcrum of the team with a young under study signed to deputise for him when he's not fit/to play EL games. Our targets would have to be revised but strikers of the ilk of L.De Jong/Van Wolfswinkel/etc should be on our radar.

Either way we have interesting times ahead and I do honestly feel with the correct appointment we could kick on.....

 

[Wirral Spurs]

Don't think this will happen.
DL is clearly not keen to invest beyond the bare minimum.

 

[kdspur]

Don't think this will happen.
DL is clearly not keen to invest beyond the bare minimum.

i agree and where the root of the problem is on aspects of the club

 

[seanwhite1961]

The only times we seem to have seen big spending and reinforcement in key positions were when we struggling badly in the league - January 2008 and 2009(£20m and £43m).

There are an awful lot of players that don't feature but we struggle to move on players, presumably because Levy is often unrealistic in what he will sell for. Look at GDS with 4 seasons of nothing - he should have been gone 2 seasons ago. Is he going to take the big hits we'll face on Bentley, Gomes and Bassong? Around £20m is my estimate.

For the past few seasons we've regularly had squads with 2 semi-fit CBs. That's got to end.

Can anyone explain why Adam Smith was brought back from loan to cover RB and hasn't featured in any of the squads? Never mind that drivel about Bentley on the bench, Smith would have been an easy option.

 

[Spurvert]

Out:

Harry Redknapp

Heurelho Gomes
Verdran Corluka
Ryan Nelsen
Sebastian Bassong
Ledley King
Jermaine Jenas
David Bentley
Luka Modric
Niko Kranjcar
Steven Pienaar
Louis Saha

In:

New Manager

Hugo Lloris/Tim Krul
Jan Vertonghen
Steven Caulker
Kyle Naughton
Milos Krasic/Ibrahim Affelay
Adam Johnson/Junior Hoilett
Client Dempsey/Moussa Dembele
Loic Remy
Leandro Damiao/Klass Jan Huntelaar

I realise that not all of these signings can happen but I think that's generally the type of transition that needs to begin in the summer. If we get top 4 then perhaps some of the incoming targets can change and be 'upgraded', but I'm not going to entertain that as realistic (based on current form)

The problem is we have so much dead wood right now and an apparent aversion to spending big, even though I think this summer it will be crucial (as it has been for the past 4 or so windows)

 

[mkkid]

The only thing that certain is THAT we bring in more monay than we spend

 

[kdspur]

Out:

Harry Redknapp

Heurelho Gomes
Verdran Corluka
Ryan Nelsen
Sebastian Bassong
Ledley King
Jermaine Jenas
David Bentley
Luka Modric
Niko Kranjcar
Steven Pienaar
Louis Saha

In:

New Manager

Hugo Lloris/Tim Krul
Jan Vertonghen
Steven Caulker
Kyle Naughton
Milos Krasic/Ibrahim Affelay
Adam Johnson/Junior Hoilett
Client Dempsey/Moussa Dembele
Loic Remy
Leandro Damiao/Klass Jan Huntelaar

I realise that not all of these signings can happen but I think that's generally the type of transition that needs to begin in the summer. If we get top 4 then perhaps some of the incoming targets can change and be 'upgraded', but I'm not going to entertain that as realistic (based on current form)

The problem is we have so much dead wood right now and an apparent aversion to spending big, even though I think this summer it will be crucial (as it has been for the past 4 or so windows)

dont rate remy myself.dembele wud be a good signing as wud hoilett.

not much character and real strength there though which is what we need most of all . its funny we are talking about players and alot of names mentinoned will already know where they will be next year. that there is no doubt.

with euro's on i expect a real quick start to summer which means last day again lol for signings,, the spurs way .. dont u just love it

 

[sbrustad]

I can't believe people want us to sell King.

Based on the last couple of games he's played I agree he can no longer be our first choice centreback next season unless he improves massively, but our captain most definitely has a role to play in the club as backup or part of the staff. Selling a one-club man? A Spurs product? A legend? Madness!

 

[Spurvert]

I can't believe people want us to sell King.

Based on the last couple of games he's played I agree he can no longer be our first choice centreback next season unless he improves massively, but our captain most definitely has a role to play in the club as backup or part of the staff. Selling a one-club man? A Spurs product? A legend? Madness!

I know exactly what you mean and to be honest I would hate the thought of selling him but our reliance on him is becoming a tad embarrassing for a club with our alleged ambitions. Ok, I'll withdraw him from the OUT list but maybe we should be looking to move him into some sort of coaching capacity?

 

[sbrustad]

I know exactly what you mean and to be honest I would hate the thought of selling him but our reliance on him is becoming a tad embarrassing for a club with our alleged ambitions. Ok, I'll withdraw him from the OUT list but maybe we should be looking to move him into some sort of coaching capacity?

I agree, I think he has a role to play as player/staff next year too. He would make excellent backup if he can stay in shape. However much his form and fitness has declined this season I still think he'd make better backup than the likes of Bassong and Nelsen.

Keep him as backup next year while grooming him for a coaching role within the club.

 

[Bobbins]

Goalkeepers:
Heurelho Gomes - Sell
Carlo Cudicini - Sell
Brad Friedel - Sell

Defenders:
Younes Kaboul - Keep
Michael Dawson - Undecided
Steven Caulker - Keep
Kyle Walker - Sell
Benoit Assou-Ekotto - Keep
Kyle Naughton - Keep
Sebastien Bassong - Sell
Vedran Corluka - Sell
William Gallas - Sell
Danny Rose- Undecided

Midfielders
Gareth Bale - Sell
Tom Huddlestone - Sell
Aaron Lennon - Sell
Scott Parker Keep
Luka Modric - Sell
Sandro - Keep
Jake Livermore - Keep
Steven Pienaar - Sell
Rafael Van Der Vaart - Injury prone, undecided.
Niko Krancjar - Sell
Andros Townsend - Keep on condition he shows he is willing to learn to learn and develop

Strikers:
Jermain Defoe - Sell
Louis Saha - Sell

Sell/Release ? :
Gallas - Sell
King - Sell
Nelsen - Sell
Bongani Khumalo - Sell
David Bentley- Sell
Jermaine Jenas- Sell
Giovani Dos Santos - Sell

 

[mil1lion]

2 goalkeepers instead of one... cudicini is gone and has always been gone to me...but it wud be hard to get young keeper in when he knows for example spurs are signing a lloris and already have friedel so maybe a butland signing but staying with birmingham on loan might be worth chasing!

2 quality center backs... king is on way out big time i think... he looks like he is really struggling now but made some good last ditch again yesterday . gallas had a stinker and was bullied from start to finish, but i love his attitude, a winner and character just a shame he is not 5 years younger. kaboul is good and had great season but he i still prone to clangers. dawson is a tryer but again he is very naive at times and slow to react. nelson, gallas, king out of starting 11 but maybe still in squad and played sparingly = 2 new center halves.

playmake agreed to play in modric role. modric should have been dropped for few games recently but no one to replace him. what we need from midfield also is someone with the ability to commit players and literally beat them. we have the directness from bale and lennon but what we need is someone with craft and skill to unlock defences on top of that.

at least 3 new strikers. saha out defoe out adebayor out
with striker situation its obvious there is no real english or premiership playing center forward going to come in so you are taking more of a gamble than usual again with getting a player in who can play im premier league. i wud be looking to sign strikers with pace and work rate. all roads lead to leandro and a cavani who wud be perfect and although 2 expensive, i would love tevez. just the sort of players spurs need. i love his industry and work rate to unsettle defences. on top of that i wud be looking for someone with real eye for goal like a higuain type. just a pure goal getter who is big and strong also and can work a line.

winger to replace / challenge bale and lennon is another i agree on.. adam johnson will be available and withing budget i have no doubt so he wud be a good clever signing as would howlett. he is tidy and can offer something from bench anyway.

serious money needs spending and serious coaching needs to be done. if we dont get champions league you can def scrap all top players joining. and even if we do you can probably scratch all those players joining anyway as well haha

I think that's going over the top really.

We'll rarely require a 2nd goalkeeper so no need to sign 2 new ones. Both Friedel and Cudicini are more than capable of filling in.

Only 1 centre back is really needed. Dawson has missed much of the season so to have him back and fit next season will strengthen the squad. Personally I think Gallas and King should just be used as backup when needed. Caulker should be kept as backup so he can learn from those 2 in particular. Leaving Kaboul and a partner.

Only 2 strikers are really needed. I wouldn't sell Defoe, I think he makes for a good squad striker and is afterall our top scorer. Selling him seems pointless when you consider how difficult it is to get another striker in and settled as it is. Maybe if we could get Rossi in and still sign 2 strikers to replace Saha and Adeabyor (unless we can sign Ade that is). I just can't see us signing 3 strikers.

 

[kdspur]

I think that's going over the top really.

We'll rarely require a 2nd goalkeeper so no need to sign 2 new ones. Both Friedel and Cudicini are more than capable of filling in.

Only 1 centre back is really needed. Dawson has missed much of the season so to have him back and fit next season will strengthen the squad. Personally I think Gallas and King should just be used as backup when needed. Caulker should be kept as backup so he can learn from those 2 in particular. Leaving Kaboul and a partner.

Only 2 strikers are really needed. I wouldn't sell Defoe, I think he makes for a good squad striker and is afterall our top scorer. Selling him seems pointless when you consider how difficult it is to get another striker in and settled as it is. Maybe if we could get Rossi in and still sign 2 strikers to replace Saha and Adeabyor (unless we can sign Ade that is). I just can't see us signing 3 strikers.

brad is a good solid keeper but lets not be mistaking here .. the man is 42 next season not 22.. if and a bloody big if we get champions league then alot of games again next season. the clever thing to do is like i said.. sign one serious keeper , a first teamer and buy an up and comer like a butland and loan him for season while brad and new goalkeeper keep things ticking over. if in second part of season we need the young keeper get him for extra games and cover.

again center half position. people assumer dawson and kaboul are the nuts, they are not.far from it. what we need is a kompany type. a leader back there thru and thru. dawson gets torn a new one everytime he comes up against real class and between two of them are prone to mistakes. they both work better with real presence and leader beside them. nelson and gallas i actually expect to leave and wud not suprise me if king retired. its tricky situation but i wud rather sign 2 center halves than just the one. luck can be cruel and what if new center half gets injured, back to same old problems at the back. not sure caulker is the answer. people rave about him but i think anotehr season or 2 at swansea wud be best ofr teh lad and spurs

i agree signing 3 strikers is asking alot but the bottom line is its bloody needed. defoe might be top scorer but her is shite im sorry.. we all have our faves or whatever but seriously his time is done at spurs i think. he cant lead the line and offers nothing in terms of work rate and team play. if we are to be serious team he simply has to be upgraded. saha i can see been let go and adebayor wont be bought. he will play the lack of cl as last resort 2 . he will move on to some where like italy with a big pay day there. so that leads me to 3 strikers.

 

[Lo Amo Speroni]

Rose tinted glasses, pie in the sky, you are having a laugh, are you for real and any others you can think of if you think we are going to have a major overhaul!

We don't even need a overhaul, we were challenging for the title 2 months ago for gods sake so clearly we just need to add quality where needed and a new manager who is capable of taking this excellent squad up a another level.

 

[kdspur]

Rose tinted glasses, pie in the sky, you are having a laugh, are you for real and any others you can think of if you think we are going to have a major overhaul!

We don't even need a overhaul, we were challenging for the title 2 months ago for gods sake so clearly we just need to add quality where needed and a new manager who is capable of taking this excellent squad up a another level.

deluded . seriously . i dont know where to start with that .

 

[Spurvert]

Rose tinted glasses, pie in the sky, you are having a laugh, are you for real and any others you can think of if you think we are going to have a major overhaul!

We don't even need a overhaul, we were challenging for the title 2 months ago for gods sake so clearly we just need to add quality where needed and a new manager who is capable of taking this excellent squad up a another level.

To be honest this isn't far wrong! I think the players I listed to sell have been considered 'dead wood' for a few seasons now. I'd still like to see 4 or 5 quality players signed this summer.