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Wig

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Why would they force the price down if they already agreed it? Medical is the final step in the process.
A bit like if you have an offer agreed on a house, and then you have a comprehensive survey that flags serious issues that needs fixing, sometimes that gives leeway to renegotiate to compensate for the value of dealing with those issues.

A fully fit Nusa is worth more than if he has injury concerns.
 

theShiznit

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Or he could just have a bad back
Which in turn makes him emotional, which then worsens the bad back...

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Ghost Hardware

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Why would they force the price down if they already agreed it? Medical is the final step in the process.
To get a better deal. See the POK tweet I posted on the other page, he still thinks it will happen but for less money. I’m not suggesting there isn’t an issue, I’m simply saying that making Nusa’s issues public deflates his value and likely curtails other clubs interest. Brentford, if they decide they still want him, will be in a position to renegotiate for a lower fee as he is essentially “damaged goods”. Why would anyone pay the full price for a player when they find out there are “serious” knee concerns after a medical. Not really logical. The more “serious” it is made out to be the better fee they might be able to get.
 

Trix

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A bit like if you have an offer agreed on a house, and then you have a comprehensive survey that flags serious issues that needs fixing, sometimes that gives leeway to renegotiate to compensate for the value of dealing with those issues.

A fully fit Nusa is worth more than if he has injury concerns.
I think it would be crazy for anyone to purchase him right now with these injury concerns even at a reduced fee. He doesn't have enough of a sample size to say, yes, he's definitely going to be a superstar. Then add into the equation his injuries and the fact he is a winger who relies on pace mobility and changing direction quickly and it's even more of a risk.

If he's got to the point this has been picked up in a medical that means he's been playing with these injuries. How long for, and how has he been managing them? It's red flag after red flag imo.
 

mattspur1

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I think it would be crazy for anyone to purchase him right now with these injury concerns even at a reduced fee. He doesn't have enough of a sample size to say, yes, he's definitely going to be a superstar. Then add into the equation his injuries and the fact he is a winger who relies on pace mobility and changing direction quickly and it's even more of a risk.

If he's got to the point this has been picked up in a medical that means he's been playing with these injuries. How long for, and how has he been managing them? It's red flag after red flag imo.
Absolutely this.

A definite no for me. We had the almighty King Ledley who was a superstar, but what would he have achieved if his knees worked?

I would only sign him on a pay-as-you-pay contract at best.
 

Ghost Hardware

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Absolutely this.

A definite no for me. We had the almighty King Ledley who was a superstar, but what would he have achieved if his knees worked?

I would only sign him on a pay-as-you-pay contract at best.
I don't think there is any chance he comes here so I wouldn't worry. We backed out when the price went up and were content for him to go to Brentford, even if that falls through at this point I think its safe to say we are out of the race. By many accounts we seem to have a list of young prospects we like so its a fairly good bet we have already moved on a few days ago and are assessing the other options. Still don't think we move for one this window but I guess you never know until its closed.
 

theShiznit

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If it's a bit of loose cartilage then that's an easy fix.

Bad back could be a number of factors, but still wouldn't expect it to be a career threat of they fund the cause.

Worry would be why does he have loose cartilage this early in his development, but it could be something as simple as a bad tackle where the damage was underestimated or not checked as he didn't feel injured.

He must be used to playing with some level of pain already though.

I got a bad injury to my knee and never really had anything done about it and now I just cycle between spells of hot knee and crunchy knee, still manage to turn out at goals though ;)
 

elfy

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I think it would be crazy for anyone to purchase him right now with these injury concerns even at a reduced fee. He doesn't have enough of a sample size to say, yes, he's definitely going to be a superstar. Then add into the equation his injuries and the fact he is a winger who relies on pace mobility and changing direction quickly and it's even more of a risk.

If he's got to the point this has been picked up in a medical that means he's been playing with these injuries. How long for, and how has he been managing them? It's red flag after red flag imo.
I remember years and years ago we had a kid called Terry Dixon who was insanely talented, everyone was convinced he would be a superstar - he was tearing it up in youth teams, Jol bought him in to train with the seniors, he was picked in the Ireland squad at 16.

But, his knees were fucked. Even after multiple surgeries he just couldn't shake it and after a brief stop at West Ham he ended up in non league.

To this day I'm still gutted for the guy, he had so much potential and were it not for his knees he could have been one of our best ever youngsters.

My point is, with kids like this the risks are huge with injuries like these. You are right, there comes a point where the risk/reward balance becomes full risk.
 
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