bubble07
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I wanted JM. Still do but he is taking this underdog mentality to new heights
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I wanted JM. Still do but he is taking this underdog mentality to new heights
gerishep
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The games we won were by the skin of our teeth, most of them undeserved.
doctor stefan Freud
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I don’t think it’s that binary. I’m all for giving Mourinho a couple of windows, a preseason and a full season to get things right and I can’t attend matches for various complicated reasons. I also vent on here sometimes, the way I might on the journey home from a match with mates (assuming I could go and I actually had mates), but that doesn’t mean I don’t back the team.
I think things will get worse before they get better though, so I plan on taking your advice and just accepting if things don’t go that great it’s better to wait until July, as Mourinho as already said
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it's not even attacking play that seems to affect though, we seemingly have no coordinated pattern of play from the back or through midfield, seem completely incapable of exploiting space
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lmao solid
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It's funny how wins are written off as 'we were lucky' and when we lose its never 'we were unlucky' its always he, she or it was fucking shit.
Not funny haha though. Just a curious thing I suppose.
Not funny haha though. Just a curious thing I suppose.
Take Messi, Suarez and Griesman out of the Barca team and see if they are as effective
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Why were they undeserved? Bollocks, we're Tottenham Hotspur supporters, we've watched countless years of football teams turning us over when we've been the better team. I tire of this thought process, we beat teams and ground out draws when we had to.
We've failed in our last two games missing our best players, correlation is there.
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That must have hurt
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Yeah I didn't mean in that way, there are undoubtedly loads of fans on here who share your view, more pointing out that an internet forum by its very nature is a flame to the moths of discontent.
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So tiring to read all these takes about the striker issue. Did anyone of you watch the games where we had both Kane and Son on the pitch? We played the exact same turgid, piss poor football. 11 men behind the ball and Son basically filled in as a right-back when we sat back. This goes way beyond having a striker or not. It's the overarching philosophy Mourinho & co brings, and always has. It was exactly the same at Man Utd and Chelsea for the second stint. People expecting some sort of renaissance just because we get an above-average back-up striker in for next season are in for a rude awakening. The best-case scenario over the next 2-3 years is basically a better version of what we saw today. Defensive, absorb pressure & counter football. If that's what you want and enjoy seeing week in week out, that's obviously completely fine, but don't argue against people realizing this fact, as if there's this amazing football around the corner just waiting to happen as soon as "he gets his players!" and "has a full preseason!".
It's the reason he got the sack from Real, and it's also the reason he completely unraveled at Utd and Chelsea.
It's the reason he got the sack from Real, and it's also the reason he completely unraveled at Utd and Chelsea.
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We could just put Mourinho's appointment down to another spectacularly bad management decision, or would that just be overly cynical?
rossdapep
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Judge them head to head when Jose has HIS squad, not whilst he's in the very early process.
Klopp, Pep and Jose at United all had similar issues on their first season. Losing to novice coaches or even the likes of Allardyce.
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So.....would it be better if we tiki-taka'd our way up to the strikers and then, because we don't have any, just banged our heads against a brick wall and still lost?
How we play is a direct result of squad neglect. We have, by the (vocal) majority admission in this thread, at least three defenders who are past it and god know how many midfielders who are what a number amongst us like to describe as 'shit'
How do we, with those players and without any fit strikers to call on, suddenly become masters of the passing game.
IMO what we're seeing isn't a failing in the manager, I'll give him the respect of assuming he knows better than any angry bod on SC, it's a complete breakdown of how this club has managed both the ins and outs, or turnover of players in the squad over two or three years. I get that some people have the horn for getting rid of him but you could bring in a manager with the teeth of Klopp and the bald head of Guardiola and he'd struggle too. there is no magic fix, no matter how many times or how many people keep banging on about there is one. I've not read one sensible suggestion. Not one. Because the reality is that we're fucked until these issues are properly addressed and we get better players.
The last four years or so have spoiled us and it isn't nice when expectations aren't met.
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idontgetit
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You're not exactly wrong over Aurier coming on. I don't think his crossing is good enough to justify calling him an attacking threat but it's up for debate whether him or Gedson's energy in the center of the park would have been more effective. The fecking problem is who comes off and when. Aurier came on to play in a five man defence whilst two down and with 20 minutes on the board. It's nuts. And that five man defence included Vertonghen who was being absolutely carried by the others. It's nuts. Lamela or Alli should have come on for Vertonghen at half time. Even a DM for Vertonghen would have been a positive move. The other changes then more or less being like for like depending on who's playing well. N'dombele though, despite being poor, can unlock a defence. He's way more dangerous to Chelsea than Aurier who's going to threaten to do a lot but actually just bounce the ball off the first man on each cross.
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No, fun football. Some verve, some cut and thrust...some being able to string more than two passes together
Agreed, but it’s the ease at which Chelsea have taken six points from us this season. Not good enough. I get the transition/season over chat, but to turn in two performances against that lot like we have is not acceptable at all.
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In his first season, yes. But once he got some new players in and had a preseason he actually had United playing well. Towards the end of that second season he came at ends with Pogba, Martial and the board. I think if he hadn't have faced those issues he'd have had United fighting at the top still. We obviously need to avoid that from happening with us but the main point is Jose needs a preseason and new players to fix a lot of issues and this is still someone else's mess he is trying to sort. Simultaneously as he's trying to fix things, other parts are falling off.
idontgetit
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Yep exactly, there's 3 players out. Sissoko is a commonly blamed for being a big problem in midfield, a lot of this site spent a lot of time wishing for Lo Celso and N'dombele (who I think everyone should chill their beans about). The problem is we only have one striker and both him and his back-up are injured and the manager doesn't rate our decent academy striker as ready (I can't see how the fuck it's not worth at least trying Parrot).
So ok we're fucked up front. But we have a shed load of midfielders and defenders. So instead of focusing up front why don't we set up to absolutely dominate in the middle of the park and dominate them. Use what we do have. If we'd lost this game because we couldn't finish when getting into their third then hey you've got a really good point. If we can't even get the ball up to the their third of the pitch regularly then there's a big problem.
So ok we're fucked up front. But we have a shed load of midfielders and defenders. So instead of focusing up front why don't we set up to absolutely dominate in the middle of the park and dominate them. Use what we do have. If we'd lost this game because we couldn't finish when getting into their third then hey you've got a really good point. If we can't even get the ball up to the their third of the pitch regularly then there's a big problem.
