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Col_M

Pointing out the Obvious
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The thing is a change in ownership MIGHT make this whole thing irrelevant. You'd be penalising the new owner for something the predecessor did. I can't see other owners agreeing with this situation as it could affect them AND their selling price. There needs to be a statute of limitations.

That said, I hope they are given the harshest opissble punishment
 

easley91

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Not shocked, but doubt much will happen when all is said and done. Everyone in involved has left the club, so are they going to punish the new ownership for crimes committed prior to them coming in? They also were the ones who reported it so they have credit in the bank by doing so.
 

Nick-TopSpursMan

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The thing is a change in ownership MIGHT make this whole thing irrelevant. You'd be penalising the new owner for something the predecessor did. I can't see other owners agreeing with this situation as it could affect them AND their selling price. There needs to be a statute of limitations.

That said, I hope they are given the harshest opissble punishment

I get what you're saying and you do make a good point but how can the club be allowed to get away with cheating for that length of time. Even if it was the owner's fault, the entire club and fanbase have benefited.

At the very least, if they don't deduct points etc they should strip Chelsea of every trophy won in that period.
 

neilp

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I’m not so sure that they will escape punishment, with an independent regulator coming in soon, the Premier League can’t afford to be seen as weak.
 

Wig

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No one here is going to be surprised at this. Question is: What does the Premier League do about it?
Have City faced any sanctions yet? This will get lawyers paid handsomely, government officials will have discussions behind the scenes, and then enough time will pass by that they hope people will be focused on other matters and forget all about it.
 

Japhet

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The thing is a change in ownership MIGHT make this whole thing irrelevant. You'd be penalising the new owner for something the predecessor did. I can't see other owners agreeing with this situation as it could affect them AND their selling price. There needs to be a statute of limitations.

That said, I hope they are given the harshest opissble punishment

It's not about the owner, it's about the club. The club have allegedly benefitted from a form of cheating and various departments within the club would have been fully aware. You can't absolve a club of all responsibility by selling it to someone else.
 

Tucker

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I’m not so sure that they will escape punishment, with an independent regulator coming in soon, the Premier League can’t afford to be seen as weak.
The premier league may want to look strong, but there’s legal precedent for Chelsea not being punished. We were punished for things Scholar did when he owned us in the 90s, Sugar successfully got it thrown out because it was punishing him and not Scholar.
 

PCozzie

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The premier league may want to look strong, but there’s legal precedent for Chelsea not being punished. We were punished for things Scholar did when he owned us in the 90s, Sugar successfully got it thrown out because it was punishing him and not Scholar.
Well that would be typical of us that one of our greatest rivals are on the line for a points deduction but are saved by the legal precedent set in our own case thirty bloody years ago. You know what'll happen. They'll get a 10 point deduction, finish 9 points behind us, appeal it and get them reinstated, knocking us out of the final Champions League place in the process.

Bookmark it. :cautious:
 

Col_M

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The premier league may want to look strong, but there’s legal precedent for Chelsea not being punished. We were punished for things Scholar did when he owned us in the 90s, Sugar successfully got it thrown out because it was punishing him and not Scholar.

Initially it was a large fine and points deduction. Sugar used the argument that he was a new owner and shouldn't be held responsible which offered mitigation. The points deduction remained but was NOT shown on league tables (it was argued that it would psychologically impact the team's performance) but the fine increased. I can't remember if the points were reinstated and replaced with a further increase in the fine.
 
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Col_M

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I’m not so sure that they will escape punishment, with an independent regulator coming in soon, the Premier League can’t afford to be seen as weak.

Why not? Weak or Strong, the regulator is coming.
 

Gassin's finest

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As a side note I was at a kids' academy game chatting to one of the dads who knows the Gallagher family very well. He said Connor G's dad told him that being a lifelong CFC supporter Connor would never join Tottenham under any circumstances. I suggested that would probably be a different story if his club were actively kicking him out the door, and Spurs wouldn't have pursued it without some encouragement. But he said the entire family are 'proper Chels' and it would never happen.
They're all involved with Raynes Park Vale, near me, who have a lot of affiliations with Chelsea. I just can't see Spurs ever being a consideration for him.
 

neilp

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Why not? Weak or Strong, the regulator is coming.
I’m only guessing, but the premier league are still responsible for enforcing their rules, which also means they owe a duty of care to the other clubs in the league.

If they are weak, it only gives more sway to the regulator going forwards.
 

spursfan77

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Let's remember we finished second to them during one of these seasons.

Them and man city have destroyed the fairness of the PL over the last two decades.

Shame Chelsea werent properly investigated while Abrahmovich owned the club. I suspect because journalists were too scared to and probably within reason.
 

spursfan77

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I’m not so sure that they will escape punishment, with an independent regulator coming in soon, the Premier League can’t afford to be seen as weak.

This is the hope. But the PL arent ruling on Man City, it is an independent board. They are only giving their evidence.
 

rossdapep

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The thing is a change in ownership MIGHT make this whole thing irrelevant. You'd be penalising the new owner for something the predecessor did. I can't see other owners agreeing with this situation as it could affect them AND their selling price. There needs to be a statute of limitations.

That said, I hope they are given the harshest opissble punishment
I actually disagree.

Its like when a club goes into administration, gets a point deduction and even gets relegated.

Its the fans who suffer long term.

The owners move on and have a great life.

And finally, EVERY SINGLE Chelsea fan or employee knew, to some degree, something was going on.

At the very least they knew they were financially cheating
 

rossdapep

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Let's remember we finished second to them during one of these seasons.

Them and man city have destroyed the fairness of the PL over the last two decades.

Shame Chelsea werent properly investigated while Abrahmovich owned the club. I suspect because journalists were too scared to and probably within reason.
Matt Syed tried to his best.

Unfortunately a lot of those tabloid journos were more interested in the perks than the truth.
 

glacierSpurs

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I'm always happy when reports like these came out against Citeh, chelscum etc. But the very next second I know they will still be scott-free from all penalisations. The PL wouldn't dare to lay a finger on these massive clubs that can bring large followings and viewership to the league. They are not Portsmouth, Coventry or Charlton who we have seen were swiftly dealt with. It's really laughable FA do things so differently to PL and EFL.
 
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