Singaspursofsixspence
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“You can fool some people sometime, but you can’t fool all the people all the time. Now you’ve seen the light, stand up for you your right”
The ousting of Daniel (COYS)
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fishhhandaricecake
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You’re seriously using ‘hindsight’ as an excuse to defend Levy and multiple appalling decisions on the football side of the club going back years.
Also how about also the constant lack of a plan or viable contingency plan.
Duke of Northumberland
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Not quite, you’re using hindsight to attack Levy for decisions most of us agreed with and would have done the same.
I will never forget the guy who called up, think he lived in Oz but he broke down all of Levy's history with managers and how its mostly been lucky or a shambles. And Jordan actually praised the call and since has changed his stance on Levy and is now more critical.
Negating everything else Levy has done wrong, I dont know how anyone can defend Levy after the Paratici debacle. The investigations into him started December of 2020 & heated up in February 2021. Reading everything that has come out about that, Levy disregarded everyone telling him to steer clear & appointed him in a solo mission in June 2021. To no ones surprise(but Levy’s, apparently) he is now banned from football for 2.5 years. There is no defending that. Levy’s bought the club into disrepute.
Duke of Northumberland
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Can you show a source before November 2021? I couldn’t find one.
The other thing is we never know the results of investigations- how many have City got through?
mil1lion
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ukdy
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I optimistically actually believe this as it's all that makes sense to me right now...Either that or Donna Cullen just doesn't get on with Poch.
Trix
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It's like that guy/girl who keeps defending their partner to their mates despite everyone knowing they are a serial cheat, because she's a good mum/dad to the kids.
Trix
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It was me, but I didn't say it must be because there is a plan afoot, more that there was a reason for not bringing him back.
ukdy
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I thought it was mate, didn't bookmark it so didn't want to tag you.
I used a little creative license. I guess even if he isn't brought back, that's a 'plan' of sorts!!
Makes me laugh every time. Completely off topic but it's hard to believe they elected an even more inept man than him after this...
Maybe it is relevant given Levy's track record of managerial appointments...
robin09
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This is such a huge problem generally with football analysis.
Twitter is so fucked I was seeing many accounts ecstatic with the formation we started with yesterday, while simultaneously seeing commentary on us being 5-0 down.
Then we see people suggesting 4 at the back was a stupid idea, Porro at RB was a terrible idea etc , but only after we got slapped.
You see the same stuff over Levy. I didn’t want us to fire Poch, but could see the logic behind bringing in Mourinho. Likewise the chase for Conte. Obviously everyone’s and expert in hindsight, but I think some need to be more honest about the decisions made in that moment. That’s not to say Levy isn’t culpable for the crisis we’re in now, but not EVERY decision that ends sub-optimally is obvious from the start.
SirNiNyHotspur
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When I think how some are still so quick to offer excuse and praise Levy I think of Trump and ‘I could shoot somebody and I wouldn’t lose voters’ Does get a bit creepy at times…
I'd been told about it by a friend who works for AC Milan when we appointed him. He told me that Paratici had been a 'naughty boy' and was probably going to have to face the music at some time , but that he'd probably be a good appointment in the short-term
I think that's a very fair point. And, to be fair, I could see why he sacked Poch and brought in Jose. I do think the timing of sacking Jose was absolutely unforgivable. Not many people agreed with that.
On Conte, people are talking as if he was an unmitigated disaster. He wasn't. He got us top 4, he left us in a reasonable position in the league. I hated his football, I hate the way he left, I hate the fact there is no morale in the squad and Conte is culpable for that. But he did quite a bit of good here too.
That said, when you are where we are, no manager, no DoF, team in pieces, rudderless, squad unbalanced...even if it's hindsight, Levy has to be accountable for that mess. His decisions have created it even if they weren't all obviously bad decisions when he made them.
Blimey I dont even know who you're referring to. Take your pick!
A lot of people, including me said Maureenio would be a disaster. A lot of people were in despair at the Nuno appointment, including me and a lot of people couldn't believe Levy hired conte knowing what we know about him and Levy.
It wasn't hindsight. It was just knowledge from previous fuck ups by levy to know it was never going to work.
Levy is a clown. He knows nothing about football. He has been a disaster since he appointed Santini. A couple of lucky appointments in Jol and Poch. Who worked miracles despite Levy.
Just boycott. Don't give him any money.
Cavehillspur
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That was a great call, remember it too. Fella is on some Spurs podcast but the name escapes me.
