Trent Crimm
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“They have sent us a nice letter tho, which was, er nice”
The ousting of Daniel (COYS)
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“They have sent us a nice letter tho, which was, er nice”
sundanceyid10
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Top 4 is not a trophy, honestly the mentality of this clubs needs to change.
G Ron
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And he’s seen it from a player’s perspective and through his Dad from a Manager’s perspective. I still find it totally baffling that some still fail to see what’s blatantly the root cause of our consistent failure on the pitch. It’s staring us all in the fucking face.
Bing
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Genuine question - what do you think it would take to make us title challengers? What should DL be doing that he's not doing now?
Dave1882
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Selling the club. We cannot compete with state owned clubs, so the ambition/investment they can put into us, will never be enough to compete with the others
Bing
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Ok so playing it out a state-owned owner would offer more investment. So it's just a money game. We've spent a lot of money over the last 2-3 years (top of my head close to half a bil)....the fact that is'nt enough in the modern game seems to me sad state of affairs.
I personally would tend to side on not wanting to go down the Chelsea/City route....it seems so hollow and vaccous...but they win trophies so I can see the argument why people would want it
ultimateloner
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I can't say what the structural changes are because I dont know how football is run.
However, from a squad perspective we need:
1) If Son can return to his previous level and Richy stays injury free then we need another striker capable of 20 goals over 30 games; mainly for early stages in European competition and cup games. This is our version of Gabriel Jesus/Origi/Nekieth (spelling sorry). A forward line of 4 capable strikers.
2) 2 AMs capable of a combined 20 goals + assists at PL level. Only Kulu is close at the moment and even he is just scratching it for title-challenge level. We are talking about a new Eriksen AND a new Dele.
3) 1 Bentacur-level CM, assuming that Bissouma can come good. PEH is good but he isn't a top 4 level CM. This will be our new Dembele.
4) 2 new LBs because none of what we have now are top 4 level. What we have just about cuts it at mid-table. We are looking at Luke Shaw level at a minimum.
5) I still have doubt over our RB position because Porro hasn't had enough games yet and its still early days for Emerson; but I'm willing to give benefit of doubt.
6) 2 new Romero-level CBs.
7) 1 new 'old Lloris'.
This is why I dont get why some people think we are close to being a title-challenging side. The fact that only Kane is capable of starting for the top sides and like max 4 players make it to their bench, reinforces this. Right now only Kane/Son (previous version)/Bentacur and Romero are top4 level. Kulu and Richy may well get there but not by this season's standard.
Nick-TopSpursMan
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Levy’s single biggest error isn’t not spending money, it isn’t building infrastructure etc, it’s that he doesn’t understand football and so hasn’t created a coherent and consistent footballing strategy that aligns with our clubs resources, history and ethos.
The incredibly frustrating thing is that it’s not actually difficult to do this. Any CEO worth their salt should have a mission statement for their company and a set of guiding principles. In the case of a football club, you can have your business principles in terms of running the business side of it but you simply have to have guiding principles for the footballing side.
I made a post about this the other day and I’m pretty confident that if Levy actually took the time to understand his mistakes, stopped listening to the various voices in the board who have no clue about football, and implemented the kind of ideas I spoke about, we would be in a superb position very quickly as a club.
I could implement a lot of those ideas very quickly if I was put in charge and I’m sure many others here could too.
My opinion of Levy continues to drop more and more with every month that goes by where he fails to understand and acknowledge his mistakes, and more importantly how to rectify them.
The incredibly frustrating thing is that it’s not actually difficult to do this. Any CEO worth their salt should have a mission statement for their company and a set of guiding principles. In the case of a football club, you can have your business principles in terms of running the business side of it but you simply have to have guiding principles for the footballing side.
I made a post about this the other day and I’m pretty confident that if Levy actually took the time to understand his mistakes, stopped listening to the various voices in the board who have no clue about football, and implemented the kind of ideas I spoke about, we would be in a superb position very quickly as a club.
I could implement a lot of those ideas very quickly if I was put in charge and I’m sure many others here could too.
My opinion of Levy continues to drop more and more with every month that goes by where he fails to understand and acknowledge his mistakes, and more importantly how to rectify them.
ultimateloner
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Sorry I completely failed to answer the 'what should DL be doing part'.
The answer is I have no idea.
Another guy above me already mentioned a change of ownership. That's probably the realistic thing but its a roll of the dice.
I think people need to realize that DL's wealth doesn't compare with all the other guys. I'm not even sure he is a billionaire. Glazers/Kronkes are both multi-billionaires, not to mentioned the states.
This is what he's up against.
For the love of Spurs
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change the model. Get in a DoF like Edu at Arsenal or Begiristain at City who have a clear vision for how the club should play.
Then back them. It won’t be quick but give it 5-10 years and we will have chances. We don’t have a vision at the moment so we cannot achieve fuck all.
the board then can stay out of football matters mostly and let the experts run the show. We operate like it’s the 90’s or 00’s.
ultimateloner
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I think most 'competition' type stuff is a money game. Footballs just one of them.
I dont want us to go down the Chelsea/City route either. This is why I rein-in my expectations and am happy for top 4. I dont think its realistic to expect consistent title challenges when there is such a gulf in resources.
Sometimes I dont even know why any of the top clubs are called 'English' anymore. The only thing English about them is the location of their home ground.
We are probably the biggest 'English club' there is remaining; and it might not be for long.
ultimateloner
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Yeah but the point is we can't 'back' whatever clever plan it is we've devised, to the same degree the other top clubs.
We dont and is unlikely to spend 100m +/window.
We can't buy Casemiro at that price, with no sell-on value, with the sole aim of salving this season.
We need a plan that is better AND cheaper than everyone else. The chance of that is very low, because someone smart enough to do that would already be working at those clubs.
IamSpurtacus
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arsenal, liverpool and leciester have shown that's not true.
You just need owners pulling in the same direction as the manager, and focused on winning
we don't have that
Krafty
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Next appointment really is key. Get that wrong and the pressure on Levy will be insurmountable.
It would be fascinating to have a chat with him. I think Levy knows he is not a football expert - it must be why he gets in Directors of Football - but he either does not give them a clear remit and budget, or just cannot let go of the financial controls. I can understand why to some extent - DoF spunks the money and worse that happens is they move on, but Levy has to deal with the fallout.
I think the issue is bigger than Levy - it’s the board as a whole and how they have not been able to set up and get in the executive team to lead the club on the sporting side. No clear direction, too many opinions, a lot of people with power but not enough responsibility. Levy and Enic should get a chief executive in and be dealing with the big, non footballing things like the property development, commercial tie ups, and so forth
It would be fascinating to have a chat with him. I think Levy knows he is not a football expert - it must be why he gets in Directors of Football - but he either does not give them a clear remit and budget, or just cannot let go of the financial controls. I can understand why to some extent - DoF spunks the money and worse that happens is they move on, but Levy has to deal with the fallout.
I think the issue is bigger than Levy - it’s the board as a whole and how they have not been able to set up and get in the executive team to lead the club on the sporting side. No clear direction, too many opinions, a lot of people with power but not enough responsibility. Levy and Enic should get a chief executive in and be dealing with the big, non footballing things like the property development, commercial tie ups, and so forth
Cavehillspur
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For the love of Spurs
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You obviously need good scouting but Arsenal haven’t spent that much more than us in the past 3-5 years. We are spending more now the stadium is done, sure we have to be clever but if our manager is a Poch type who develops younger players there is a way round it.
what we can’t do is hire win it now managers as they require players fully developed and we cannot afford them.
ultimateloner
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I'm not sure about Leicester, but Kronkes and John Heny are both mutli-billionaires.
DL isn't.
So no, we dont have the resources to compete; even if we want to.
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ultimateloner
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DL needs to sell his share out so that he has less incentive to meddle. More people need to have skin in the game.
The problem is finding a minority buyer. Whoever can afford this wants control, so it is unlikely to be someone new to a sport.
The likely buyer would be someone who's already into sport and wants some network-effect or diversification in their portfolio.
