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Match Threads Chelsea Vs Spurs

Date
Aug 14, 2022
KO Time
16:30
Score
Chelsea 2-2 Spurs
Hojbjerg (68) Kane(90)
Koulibaly (19) James (77)

Match Prediction

  • Spurs win

    Votes: 155 47.8%
  • Chelsea win

    Votes: 43 13.3%
  • Score Draw

    Votes: 121 37.3%
  • Goalless Draw

    Votes: 5 1.5%

  • Total voters
    324

spursfan77

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Tuchel’s words about the ref must bring about further punishment surely? He basically accused him of doing everything he could to make sure they didn’t win and questioned his integrity. They usually don’t look well on those kind of comments and he should get a ban or fine.
 

easley91

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With VAR and rule changes every summer I get confused with one or two. If they did sent Romero off, would it not have continued as a corner any way as the ball wasn't in play? Or would they have give a free kick? Because if the corner continues then he wasn't involved in the goal and it matters not.

I do think he was very lucky though with that being said.

Also do we know how long Conte is suspended for if we don't appeal or it isn't overturned?
 

luRRka

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Yet the 4-2-4 was a major part in getting us back in the game. It opened the game up and created chaos in a game that was too orderly.

However, I thought Conte made a major mistake not fixing that after it went 1-1. In any case it's likely we will see it again, Conte did as much as say so in his press conference. But it's a system we need to learn.
I agree he didn't change it back to 3atb quick enough but he was trying. Im pretty sure Perisic was on the touch line waiting to come on when they scored the 2nd
 
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Gassin's finest

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May 12, 2010
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Caught highlights... Chelsea always raise their game against us, but I love that we completely rattled them. It seems to be the effect we're having on these clubs right now... From the Arsenal game last season to today. Mentally they just can't cope with us.
 

Japhet

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Really poor performance but I always felt that we just needed to get a point as that's all that matters.

Later in the season that will be useful as we will improve and Chelsea won't dominate us again at WHL.

I never felt Chelsea would fade like some thought. so a point is actually a great result because they will be up there and you want to be ensuring you don't lose whilst performances are lacking.

As others have stated, Conte will change that 11 by the end of the season.

Thought Richarlison made a massive difference and showed why we signed him.

As great as Sonny is, he isn't a pest. If you are under pressure and can't play out, you need someone who can bother and disrupt. Sonny isn't that guy, he will cause concern for the counter but if the opposition are dealing with it, you need to unsettle them.

Richarlison will be very useful at this


I thought our dreadful lack of any pressure on their back line was our biggest problem. They constantly got the ball to Jorginho who was the extra man in midfield and it all stemmed from there. Bentancur and Hojbjerg were given a pretty much impossible task, made even worse by the heat. As soon as Richarlison came on and started putting himself about up top, we got more of a foothold and took the game to them. Kane obviously has to play, but his lack of any effective pressing is a continuing issue.
 

Gilzeanking

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May 7, 2005
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Son has always ran hot and cold. He often has matches where he looks totally anonymous and then scores in streaks.
It's my opinion that if an opposition goes out of its way to stop Sonny, its possible to shut him down. He needs a bit of space to really shine imo .
 

easley91

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Couple of things I took from MOTD viewing were Jenas saying it was good to see Spurs go to the Bridge play poorly and get something. It shows improvement. Maybe not the kind a lot wanted to see, but improvement in the attitude to not give in and keep going right to the very end.

And the tactical change when Richarlison came on. First half Kane had three defenders plus James round him at times. Richarlison took one of the two CBs (Koulibaly or Silva) and that allowed for one of the other three to find space. It's such a good option to have now. Defenders know they have to pick someone up but it leaves any of the four (if they're all on) in space to do something and we all know they do have the quality.

So good to see the squad depth improved. It's going to be vital as the season goes on and I think we'll gain more points because of it.
 

Gilzeanking

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I thought our dreadful lack of any pressure on their back line was our biggest problem. They constantly got the ball to Jorginho who was the extra man in midfield and it all stemmed from there. Bentancur and Hojbjerg were given a pretty much impossible task, made even worse by the heat. As soon as Richarlison came on and started putting himself about up top, we got more of a foothold and took the game to them. Kane obviously has to play, but his lack of any effective pressing is a continuing issue.
Absolutely. He has to get with the programme, Conte has to work on him.
 

SuperLuka

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We all saw what and how it all happened. All we have to do is watch, it's there for all to see. After the final whistle, despite the pair having to be physically restrained from punching each others lights out, Conte offered his hand as part of the managers etiquette probably despite still being angry at the way Tuchel had conducted himself at half time..., but Tuchel being the classless **** that he clearly is, refused to release the hand and angrily yanked it back as the two started shouting at each other again, bringing the two camps rushing in to stop things developing again.

We MUST appeal that red card. The evidence is there for everyone to study and see for themselves. Conte was completely innocent of any wrong doing, simply trying to do the professional thing, and the ref gave both red cards probably because he thought he had to but I'm not even sure he saw the events as they happened.
Absolutely no way Conte's red card is being overturned.
 

kursaal

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Caught highlights... Chelsea always raise their game against us, but I love that we completely rattled them. It seems to be the effect we're having on these clubs right now... From the Arsenal game last season to today. Mentally they just can't cope with us.
They played us off the park for the vast majority of the game. The pleasing aspect is we hung in there and stole that point at the death. The fact they were so incensed made our thievery all the funnier.
 

spursfan77

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Aug 13, 2005
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I think back to the opening day of the season and when Klopp quoted Pep Guardiola -

Talking about a long season ahead with the World Cup break Pep is reputed to have said -

"You can't win the Premier League in the first half of the season but you can lose it"

And we play all the top teams away from home before it. To get through those games and pick up some good results could be huge for us.
 

Scot-Spur

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I know Romero pulled cucsrellas hair but I'm not sure VAR got anything wrong, the ref obviously decided they were both guilty of a bit of pushing and shoving and it had no bearing on the goal so it's not var's job to overturn the ref's decision. I thought they may have been looking for violent conduct which there clearly wasn't.
To have disallowed a goal for that would have been wrong and being in the last minute would have been an absolute disgrace. If referees are being a bit more accommodating this season then I'm pleased even though no doubt at some point it will be us complaining.
Once it went to VAR the only thing it could have done was sent off Romero I think. We would still have got the corner. Nothing really they can complain about.
 

Scot-Spur

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With VAR and rule changes every summer I get confused with one or two. If they did sent Romero off, would it not have continued as a corner any way as the ball wasn't in play? Or would they have give a free kick? Because if the corner continues then he wasn't involved in the goal and it matters not.

I do think he was very lucky though with that being said.

Also do we know how long Conte is suspended for if we don't appeal or it isn't overturned?
As far as I’m aware, once it went to VAR they could only send him off not give a free kick.
 

Mr Pink

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Aug 25, 2010
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Chelsea had the better of us tactically again.

But Conte did react in the end, and we took a huge point.

Genuinely think that moment was huge for us. It builds belief.

Can't stand that fixture...probably the worst of the season.

It's done and we got a point.
 

spursfan77

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Once it went to VAR the only thing it could have done was sent off Romero I think. We would still have got the corner. Nothing really they can complain about.

It would have been a travesty if he’d have been sent off. An absolute joke. Wtf is a player doing playing with hair like that anyway, it’s not professional in any way. You don’t see the women playing in their games without it tied up.
 

Harrier

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I think Reece James highlighted what we could have done with at right wing back yesterday.

Strong, dynamic and excellent delivery.
 

worcestersauce

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Once it went to VAR the only thing it could have done was sent off Romero I think. We would still have got the corner. Nothing really they can complain about.
Yes and it wasn't a sending off offence.
 
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Harrier

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Tuchel’s words about the ref must bring about further punishment surely? He basically accused him of doing everything he could to make sure they didn’t win and questioned his integrity. They usually don’t look well on those kind of comments and he should get a ban or fine.
You’d think so.

It wasn’t like a passing comment, it was full on rant in both post match interview and post match press conference.

I’d imagine the FA will want to put down a marker about these comments, otherwise how on earth can they punish any other manager comments moving forward!
 

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